Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby Guest » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:34 am

Fletch wrote:
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Rolluplostinspace wrote:U.S. "Gets Its Ass Handed To It" In World War III Simulation:

This is not the first time in fact every time they run these simulations America lose despite all the money and high tech.
Have America actually ever won a war?

In simulated World War III scenarios, the U.S. continues to lose against Russia and China, two top war planners warned last week. “In our games, when we fight Russia and China, blue gets its ass handed to it" RAND analyst David Ochmanek said Thursday.

RAND's wargames show how US Armed Forces - colored blue on wargame maps - experience the most substantial losses in one scenario after another and still can't thwart Russia or China - which predictably is red - from accomplishing their objectives: annihilating Western forces.

"We lose a lot of people. We lose a lot of equipment. We usually fail to achieve our objective of preventing aggression by the adversary," he warned.

In the next military conflict, which some believe may come as soon as the mid-2020s, all five battlefield domains: land, sea, air, space, and cyberspace, will be heavily contested, suggesting the U.S. could have a difficult time in achieving superiority as it has in prior conflicts.



“In every case I know of,” said Robert Work, a former deputy secretary of defense with years of wargaming experience, “the F-35 rules the sky when it’s in the sky, but it gets killed on the ground in large numbers.”

So, as Russia and China develop fifth-generation fighters and hypersonic missiles, “things that rely on sophisticated base infrastructures like runways and fuel tanks are going to have a hard time,” Ochmanek said. “Things that sail on the surface of the sea are going to have a hard time.”

"That’s why the 2020 budget coming out next week retires the carrier USS Truman decades early and cuts two amphibious landing ships, as we’ve reported. It’s also why>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51269.htm





You write in your last post that people should remember Hollywood is entertainment and in your very next post. You lead with U.S ''Gets it's ass handed to it'' in ww111 simulation.
You're just having a bit of a laugh really aren't you rollo?
You can't be that thick :pmsl: ...well maybe


Is war simulation run by Hollywood?




Is a simulation real, you muppet :hand:
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby Guest » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:37 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
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Rolluplostinspace wrote:U.S. "Gets Its Ass Handed To It" In World War III Simulation:

This is not the first time in fact every time they run these simulations America lose despite all the money and high tech.
Have America actually ever won a war?

In simulated World War III scenarios, the U.S. continues to lose against Russia and China, two top war planners warned last week. “In our games, when we fight Russia and China, blue gets its ass handed to it" RAND analyst David Ochmanek said Thursday.

RAND's wargames show how US Armed Forces - colored blue on wargame maps - experience the most substantial losses in one scenario after another and still can't thwart Russia or China - which predictably is red - from accomplishing their objectives: annihilating Western forces.

"We lose a lot of people. We lose a lot of equipment. We usually fail to achieve our objective of preventing aggression by the adversary," he warned.

In the next military conflict, which some believe may come as soon as the mid-2020s, all five battlefield domains: land, sea, air, space, and cyberspace, will be heavily contested, suggesting the U.S. could have a difficult time in achieving superiority as it has in prior conflicts.



“In every case I know of,” said Robert Work, a former deputy secretary of defense with years of wargaming experience, “the F-35 rules the sky when it’s in the sky, but it gets killed on the ground in large numbers.”

So, as Russia and China develop fifth-generation fighters and hypersonic missiles, “things that rely on sophisticated base infrastructures like runways and fuel tanks are going to have a hard time,” Ochmanek said. “Things that sail on the surface of the sea are going to have a hard time.”

"That’s why the 2020 budget coming out next week retires the carrier USS Truman decades early and cuts two amphibious landing ships, as we’ve reported. It’s also why>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51269.htm





You write in your last post that people should remember Hollywood is entertainment and in your very next post. You lead with U.S ''Gets it's ass handed to it'' in ww111 simulation.
You're just having a bit of a laugh really aren't you rollo?
You can't be that thick :pmsl: ...well maybe

Fuck me no wonder you post as a guest.
You never have to back anything up that way.
Never have to face up to what you say.
Like I said you're a fucking idiot.




Does it make any difference? If a post is correct it doesn't matter if it's a guest or someone using a fake name like rollup. Only most of your posts have nothing to do with facts.
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:14 am

Guest wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Guest wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:U.S. "Gets Its Ass Handed To It" In World War III Simulation:

This is not the first time in fact every time they run these simulations America lose despite all the money and high tech.
Have America actually ever won a war?

In simulated World War III scenarios, the U.S. continues to lose against Russia and China, two top war planners warned last week. “In our games, when we fight Russia and China, blue gets its ass handed to it" RAND analyst David Ochmanek said Thursday.

RAND's wargames show how US Armed Forces - colored blue on wargame maps - experience the most substantial losses in one scenario after another and still can't thwart Russia or China - which predictably is red - from accomplishing their objectives: annihilating Western forces.

"We lose a lot of people. We lose a lot of equipment. We usually fail to achieve our objective of preventing aggression by the adversary," he warned.

In the next military conflict, which some believe may come as soon as the mid-2020s, all five battlefield domains: land, sea, air, space, and cyberspace, will be heavily contested, suggesting the U.S. could have a difficult time in achieving superiority as it has in prior conflicts.



“In every case I know of,” said Robert Work, a former deputy secretary of defense with years of wargaming experience, “the F-35 rules the sky when it’s in the sky, but it gets killed on the ground in large numbers.”

So, as Russia and China develop fifth-generation fighters and hypersonic missiles, “things that rely on sophisticated base infrastructures like runways and fuel tanks are going to have a hard time,” Ochmanek said. “Things that sail on the surface of the sea are going to have a hard time.”

"That’s why the 2020 budget coming out next week retires the carrier USS Truman decades early and cuts two amphibious landing ships, as we’ve reported. It’s also why>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51269.htm





You write in your last post that people should remember Hollywood is entertainment and in your very next post. You lead with U.S ''Gets it's ass handed to it'' in ww111 simulation.
You're just having a bit of a laugh really aren't you rollo?
You can't be that thick :pmsl: ...well maybe

Fuck me no wonder you post as a guest.
You never have to back anything up that way.
Never have to face up to what you say.
Like I said you're a fucking idiot.




Does it make any difference? If a post is correct it doesn't matter if it's a guest or someone using a fake name like rollup. Only most of your posts have nothing to do with facts.

Stick with the official story the official line it's easier that way.
Probably safer too.
You think this section is just for regurgitating the BBC and Daily Telegraph stuff .... that's ok.
You'll be fine.
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby art0hur0moh » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:00 am

Guest wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Guest wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:U.S. "Gets Its Ass Handed To It" In World War III Simulation:

This is not the first time in fact every time they run these simulations America lose despite all the money and high tech.
Have America actually ever won a war?

In simulated World War III scenarios, the U.S. continues to lose against Russia and China, two top war planners warned last week. “In our games, when we fight Russia and China, blue gets its ass handed to it" RAND analyst David Ochmanek said Thursday.

RAND's wargames show how US Armed Forces - colored blue on wargame maps - experience the most substantial losses in one scenario after another and still can't thwart Russia or China - which predictably is red - from accomplishing their objectives: annihilating Western forces.

"We lose a lot of people. We lose a lot of equipment. We usually fail to achieve our objective of preventing aggression by the adversary," he warned.

In the next military conflict, which some believe may come as soon as the mid-2020s, all five battlefield domains: land, sea, air, space, and cyberspace, will be heavily contested, suggesting the U.S. could have a difficult time in achieving superiority as it has in prior conflicts.



“In every case I know of,” said Robert Work, a former deputy secretary of defense with years of wargaming experience, “the F-35 rules the sky when it’s in the sky, but it gets killed on the ground in large numbers.”

So, as Russia and China develop fifth-generation fighters and hypersonic missiles, “things that rely on sophisticated base infrastructures like runways and fuel tanks are going to have a hard time,” Ochmanek said. “Things that sail on the surface of the sea are going to have a hard time.”

"That’s why the 2020 budget coming out next week retires the carrier USS Truman decades early and cuts two amphibious landing ships, as we’ve reported. It’s also why>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51269.htm





You write in your last post that people should remember Hollywood is entertainment and in your very next post. You lead with U.S ''Gets it's ass handed to it'' in ww111 simulation.
You're just having a bit of a laugh really aren't you rollo?
You can't be that thick :pmsl: ...well maybe


Is war simulation run by Hollywood?




Is a simulation real, you muppet :hand:


do You honestly think wars are fought on the battle field? that is the last resort! for the past 8-10 years the war has been raging and non of You have even noticed! read Jim Rickards books. even with decades of planing and simulations. well as open warfare they get hammerd. the old saying all the gear and no idea is an uncomfortable truth! with the exception for elite units, the mainstay of the army are little more than college drop outs wanting a degree, fighting against battle hardens enemies with far greater numbers and determination. liberal softies can't fight, they just ain't vicious enough! and combat training is to soft for even the minimum requirement for survival on the battle field.
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby art0hur0moh » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:14 am

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Guest wrote:This Rollup fella complains that America spends too much on its military and is bankrupting itself, but when asked if that’s because they defend the free world he says no?
Trump is right, he needs to withdraw America from NATO and spend the money on American people

I agree totally with that and when they do the world can breathe a great sigh of relief.

The Russians and Chinese will be your new friends. Be nice to them, or else.

guess You haven't heard of the hsbc? and conveniently forgot they where the most reliable of wartime allies!
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby art0hur0moh » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:45 am

art0hur0moh wrote:
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Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Guest wrote:This Rollup fella complains that America spends too much on its military and is bankrupting itself, but when asked if that’s because they defend the free world he says no?
Trump is right, he needs to withdraw America from NATO and spend the money on American people

I agree totally with that and when they do the world can breathe a great sigh of relief.

The Russians and Chinese will be your new friends. Be nice to them, or else.

guess You haven't heard of the hsbc? and conveniently forgot they where the most reliable of wartime allies!

I was going to add a few historical details, for some reason more than a few times deletion before posting?

while the yanks where chasing People with bows and arrows off their land, britain was facing modern russian and chinese armies. who rights Your history? political culture didn't start in america! it started in iran! or to be pedantic with the ayrian Peoples.
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby art0hur0moh » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:59 am

:D it was only a year or two ago berwik upon tweed (there abouts) signed a Peace acord with russia!
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby Fletch » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:01 pm

Guest wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Guest wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:U.S. "Gets Its Ass Handed To It" In World War III Simulation:

This is not the first time in fact every time they run these simulations America lose despite all the money and high tech.
Have America actually ever won a war?

In simulated World War III scenarios, the U.S. continues to lose against Russia and China, two top war planners warned last week. “In our games, when we fight Russia and China, blue gets its ass handed to it" RAND analyst David Ochmanek said Thursday.

RAND's wargames show how US Armed Forces - colored blue on wargame maps - experience the most substantial losses in one scenario after another and still can't thwart Russia or China - which predictably is red - from accomplishing their objectives: annihilating Western forces.

"We lose a lot of people. We lose a lot of equipment. We usually fail to achieve our objective of preventing aggression by the adversary," he warned.

In the next military conflict, which some believe may come as soon as the mid-2020s, all five battlefield domains: land, sea, air, space, and cyberspace, will be heavily contested, suggesting the U.S. could have a difficult time in achieving superiority as it has in prior conflicts.



“In every case I know of,” said Robert Work, a former deputy secretary of defense with years of wargaming experience, “the F-35 rules the sky when it’s in the sky, but it gets killed on the ground in large numbers.”

So, as Russia and China develop fifth-generation fighters and hypersonic missiles, “things that rely on sophisticated base infrastructures like runways and fuel tanks are going to have a hard time,” Ochmanek said. “Things that sail on the surface of the sea are going to have a hard time.”

"That’s why the 2020 budget coming out next week retires the carrier USS Truman decades early and cuts two amphibious landing ships, as we’ve reported. It’s also why>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51269.htm





You write in your last post that people should remember Hollywood is entertainment and in your very next post. You lead with U.S ''Gets it's ass handed to it'' in ww111 simulation.
You're just having a bit of a laugh really aren't you rollo?
You can't be that thick :pmsl: ...well maybe


Is war simulation run by Hollywood?




Is a simulation real, you muppet :hand:


You think US DoD war simulation is a bunch of Generals sitting around playing call of duty? :pointlaugh:

:pmsl:
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby Fletch » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:48 pm

Blueprint of the PNAC Plan for U.S. Global Hegemony

05/06/03: When the Bush administration started lobbying for war with Iraq, they used as rationale a definition of preemption (generally meaning anticipatory use of force in the face of an imminent attack) that was broadened to allow for the waging of a preventive war in which force may be used even without evidence of an imminent attack. They also were able to convince much of the American public that Saddam Hussein had something to do with the attacks of 9/11, despite the fact that no evidence of a link has been uncovered. Consequently, many people supported the war on the basis of 1) a policy that has no legal basis in international law and 2) a totally unfounded claim of Iraqi guilt.

What most people do not know, however, is that certain high ranking officials in the Bush administration have been working for regime change in Iraq for the past decade, long before terrorism became an important issue for our country. In 1997 they formed an organization called the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). They have sought the establishment of a much stronger U.S. presence throughout the Mideast and Iraq's Saddam Hussein has been their number one target for regime change.

PNAC members on the Bush team include Vice-President Dick Cheney and his top national security assistant, I. Lewis Libby; Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld; Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz; National Security Council member Eliot Abrams; Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security John Bolton; and former Chairman of the Defense Policy Board, Richard Perle. Other PNAC members exerting influence on U.S. policy are the President of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq Randy Scheunemann, Republican Party leader Bruce Jackson and current PNAC chairman William Kristol, conservative writer for the Weekly Standard. Jeb Bush, the president's brother and governor of Florida, is also a member.

Their central policy document is entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses (RAD)," published on their website at http://newamericancentury.org/Rebuildin ... fenses.pdf. It outlines a plan for American hegemony in the coming years, pinpointing "problem areas" of the world and suggesting regime change of unfavorable governments so that eventually the whole world will be unified under the banner of American democracy.

Full article: http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... le3249.htm

Check out those PNAC members names. eyebrow

They even have published papers detailing their plans,

Members of PNAC are so self-assured they are advancing America's best interests that they publish policy papers specifically outlining their plans, plans that many fear may be laying the groundwork for a third world war.

it's no conspiracy or secret. It's in your face lawlessness and aggression.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... fenses.pdf
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby art0hur0moh » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:15 am

I can invest My time far better than any of this pointless nonsense. I would definitely far prefer being in a position I never need rely on a government or bank to Live or survive.
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:17 am

art0hur0moh wrote:I can invest My time far better than any of this pointless nonsense. I would definitely far prefer being in a position I never need rely on a government or bank to Live or survive.


It is impossible in this country.
Move to a seriously underdeveloped country and you might pull it off but not without first .... having a bundle of cash to start you off.
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby Fletch » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:20 pm

Trump’s FY2020 Budget Request Bloats Militarized Spending—and Slashes Actual Human Needs

At long last, President Trump released his third presidential budget request today, after a month-long delay due to the government shutdown. And it’s a doozy.

President Trump’s priorities for FY 2020 go even further than last year’s request in bloating the already enormous military budget, requesting $750 billion for the military —an increase of 5 percent, or $34 billion, from the 2019 enacted budget.

That would put 57 percent of the $1.3 trillion discretionary budget into the Pentagon and nuclear weapons. Meanwhile, total funding for all other agencies, from the Department of Education to Veterans Affairs and NASA, is only $543 billion, down from $597 billion budgeted in 2019 – a nine percent decrease.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/trumps-fy ... ds/5671767

"Why can't we all just get along"...

"Bring the troops home"...,

"No more foreign wars, America first"...

Turned out he was just another puppet.
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby Guest » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:39 pm

With Russia’s tsunami inducing nuke 2000 mile range torpedo, its work on 4th generation nukes, undefeatable missile technology, the armarta and cyber warfare - the list goes on - I you include China then Trump is being advised that he has no option.
You are A Russian Pawn.
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby MI my oh my » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:57 pm

It would seem that potus is reacting to perceived threats.
It is a shame that he and all the threats cannot sit around a table and agree to plough all their intellectual and financial capacity to improve the world for everyone.
Sadly fear and mistrust mean that is why Donald has no choice, and explains why this fletch zombie is a puppet
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Re: Pity the Nation: War Spending Is Bankrupting America

Postby Fletch » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:18 am

U.S. Posts The Biggest Monthly Budget Deficit In American History

February’s federal budget deficit was the largest on record, according to figures released by the Treasury Department on Friday. President Donald Trump promised during his campaign that he would balance the budget in eight years.

The total debt surpassed $22 trillion for the first time ever in February — $2 trillion higher than when Trump took office

The massive shortfall is being attributed to a 20 percent drop in corporate revenue and increased federal spending. The Trump administration slashed corporate taxes in his new 2017 tax law from 35 percent to 21 percent. Trump’s tax-cut package cost the government $1.5 trillion.

“When you pass the most irresponsible tax cut followed by the most irresponsible spending increase, unsurprisingly it leads to the largest deficit numbers,” Maya MacGuineas, president of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, told The Washington Post. “Predictably, that’s exactly where we landed.”

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51326.htm

Classic neoliberalism. Cut taxes for the wealthy, discover a shortfall then make the poor pay for it with reduced public services, cost increases and less assistance for the sick and disabled.

Neoliberalism: For the few not the many.
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