Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Cannydc » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:30 am

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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Fletch » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:58 pm

Cannydc wrote:"In practical terms, this means that in crowded locations such as airports, individuals’ bodies “will be penetrated by numerous beams of radiation as they walk or as other people walk around them with their 5G smartphones.” But even in the home environment, “5G technology [will] blast through walls and cribs,”


Absolute, unadulterated garbage from the first word to the last, which can't be allowed to pass unchallenged. Fucking cribs !!!

There are two different parts of the radio spectrum that are being used to deliver 5G and one of these frequencies finds it harder to pass through objects.

These are radio frequencies that are similar to current cellular frequencies, this is what is called Sub 6 Gigahertz, and extremely high frequency millimeter wave bands, commonly abbreviated as mmWave.

At these frequencies - such as the proposed 28 GHz and 39 GHz - radio behaves differently. These short wavelength mmWaves are much more easily blocked by tree leaves, walls, windows and they are even quickly absorbed by the air.

As for satellites, the performance benchmarks for 5G wireless service are high: user download speeds of 100 megabits per second (Mbps) and uploads of 50 Mbps with a millisecond of maximum signal lag.

That’s five times faster than the average household internet connection in the United States and Europe and 15 times faster than the global average. And all of this needs to be done with three times the spectral efficiency of 4G, effectively tripling the volume of data that can be sent over the same amount of spectrum.

No satellites are yet anywhere close to a single millisecond of latency, vital for transmission of video for instance.

And 'intense beams of radiation' ? Made up BS. Even in near orbit (lowest sustainable) they are 8000 kms up. The amount of power, accuracy and technical complexity to beam at high power to individual receptors (especially moving ones) is far beyond any capability, real or imagined. If used, satellites sit in a geo-stationary orbit transmitting over a footprint. And because of the 8000km range, and power drain limits, power reaching ground level is tiny.

Just like Sky and thousands of others.

And finally - these transmissions consist of non-ionising radiation. Non-Ionizing radiation does not carry enough energy to break molecular bonds and ionize atoms. ... Ionizing radiation is the type of radiation that carries enough energy to break bonds between molecules and ionize atoms. One is dangerous - the other isn't.


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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Cannydc » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:07 pm

Personal knowledge from a 48 year career in electronics, including transmission and reception of data, radar, ionising and non-ionising radiation, emission and immunity testing and TV and radio transmission and reception equipment.

Where's your experience in this particular field, Fletch ?
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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Fletch » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:35 pm

Cannydc wrote:Personal knowledge from a 48 year career in electronics, including transmission and reception of data, radar, ionising and non-ionising radiation, emission and immunity testing and TV and radio transmission and reception equipment.

Where's your experience in this particular field, Fletch ?


Funny, it reads in part like extracts from an article/publication, though you do have form for hiding the sources you use...

I've not professed to having any, I just post what is reported and findings from scientific folk.

I expect you would go along when the military told members to stand and watch the nuclear explosion, when troops were poisoned in Vietnam, when drug experiments were carried out on troops, the cocktails injected in to troops before Iraq, the use of depleted uranium ammunition. The forces are known to be liars and to not really have the safety and well being of it's personnel as a priority. More like guinea pigs. Easily replaced guinea pigs at that. Ones that do as they're told and never question authority.

On Earth Day, Remembering the US Military’s Toxic Legacy

On Earth Day, MintPress brings you a piece originally published last May, on the U.S. Department of Defense’s toxic legacy throughout the world. The DoD produces more hazardous waste than the five largest U.S. chemical companies combined.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/on-earth- ... cy/227776/

No other sites/articles agreeing with your claims then? :dunno:
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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Fletch » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:41 pm

5G Wireless Technology Is the “Stupidest Idea in the History of the World”

According to Washington State University Biochemistry, Medical Science Professor Martin L. Pall

Anyways, in this article, I’d like to draw your attention to Dr. Martin L. Pall (image on the right), PhD and Professor Emeritus of Biochemistry and Basic Medical Sciences at Washington State University. Taken from his report titled “5G: Great risk for EU, U.S. and International Health! Compelling Evidence for Eight Distinct Types of Great Harm Caused by Electromagnetic Field(EMF) Exposures and the Mechanism that Causes Them,” he states that:

“Putting in tens of millions of 5G antennae without a single biological test of safety has got to be about the stupidest idea anyone has had in the history of the world.”

That report goes through a lot of science, which only adds to all of the science that’s already available regarding the harmful effects of 5G technology. If you’re looking for more information, I often point people toward the Environmental Health Trust because it’s a great resource that gives you access to more science.

This is not new information. For years, numerous studies have been published proving the health concerns regarding 5G technology and hundreds of scientists have petitioned the United Nations about them. These initiatives started as a result of the work done by Dr. Marin Blank from Columbia University’s Department of Physiology and Cellular Biophysics.

According to him, with regards to wireless radiation in general:

“We have created something that is harming us, and it is getting out of control. Before Edison’s light bulb there was very little electromagnetic radiation in our environment. The levels today are very many times higher than natural background levels, and are growing rapidly because of all the new devices that emit this radiation. Putting it bluntly they are damaging the living cells in our bodies and killing many of us prematurely.”

Again, it’s unbelievable that these technologies are being rolled out without any safety testing done. How is this even allowed to happen? The thing is, if there was safety testing done, there would likely be no changes made anyways, and these corporations would be allowed to rollout and utilize these technologies.

More on https://www.globalresearch.ca/5g-stupid ... ld/5675638

Articles like this canny.

Now, why doesn't this Professor, and many other scientific folk, agree with your personal point of view? :scratch:
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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Fletch » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:45 pm

Seeing how this article is about the work of Dr. Pall, below is a lecture that goes into detail about his research and why we should be concerned with 5G technology.

It’s alarming that some people have been made to believe that this is “pseudoscience.” Not only is this surprising, but it’s also very concerning.

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Listen for yourself.
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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Fletch » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:57 pm

Scientific Research On 5G, Small Cells And Health

Published peer reviewed science already indicates that the current wireless technologies of 2G, 3G and 4G – in use today with our cell phones, computers and wearable tech – creates (create) radiofrequency exposures which poses (pose) a serious health risk to humans, animals and the environment. Scientists are cautioning that before rolling out 5G, research on human health effects urgently needs to be done first to ensure the public and environment are protected.

https://ehtrust.org/scientific-research ... nd-health/

A long article with many links and names.

They don't seem to agree with your personal view either canny. :scratch:
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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Cannydc » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:55 am

Fletch wrote:Scientific Research On 5G, Small Cells And Health

Published peer reviewed science already indicates that the current wireless technologies of 2G, 3G and 4G – in use today with our cell phones, computers and wearable tech – creates (create) radiofrequency exposures which poses (pose) a serious health risk to humans, animals and the environment. Scientists are cautioning that before rolling out 5G, research on human health effects urgently needs to be done first to ensure the public and environment are protected.

https://ehtrust.org/scientific-research ... nd-health/

A long article with many links and names.

They don't seem to agree with your personal view either canny. :scratch:


You are repeating the same old story over and over, Fletch.

All I would ask is evidence of the damage done by 2G, 3G, 4G technology to humans - presumably there will have been court cases, damages awarded, huge publicity.... And I am referring to the transmitters causing harm, NOT idiotic use of cellphones placed next to the brain for long periods. Everyone has known the dangers of doing that, for ages.

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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Fletch » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:14 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Fletch wrote:Scientific Research On 5G, Small Cells And Health

Published peer reviewed science already indicates that the current wireless technologies of 2G, 3G and 4G – in use today with our cell phones, computers and wearable tech – creates (create) radiofrequency exposures which poses (pose) a serious health risk to humans, animals and the environment. Scientists are cautioning that before rolling out 5G, research on human health effects urgently needs to be done first to ensure the public and environment are protected.

https://ehtrust.org/scientific-research ... nd-health/

A long article with many links and names.

They don't seem to agree with your personal view either canny. :scratch:


You are repeating the same old story over and over, Fletch.

All I would ask is evidence of the damage done by 2G, 3G, 4G technology to humans - presumably there will have been court cases, damages awarded, huge publicity.... And I am referring to the transmitters causing harm, NOT idiotic use of cellphones placed next to the brain for long periods. Everyone has known the dangers of doing that, for ages.

Good luck.


That's the testing procedure now then, 'so what if it's harmful, sue us'.

Someone with the power and money to to take the establishment and it's corporate cronies to court is a tall order. Just look at how long monsanto got away with it, and still are, for example.

‘Telecom Industry Did No Research on Health Impacts of 5G’

Paul Heroux, professor of toxicology and health effects of electromagnetism at Department of Surgery, McGill University Health Centre, Canada, speaks with Down To Earth about adoption of 5G will be detrimental towards people’s health.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/telecom-i ... 5g/5673706

but then you have:

California School District Turns Off Radiation From School Cell Tower After Fourth Student Develops Cancer

“Four students and three teachers at Weston have been diagnosed with different forms of cancer since 2016. In addition, two preschool-age children living near the school have been treated for a malignant tumor and leukemia, and a Modesto family says a 22-year-old former student of Weston underwent surgery last year for a brain tumor.”

https://ehtrust.org/fourth-student-has- ... on-school/

No wonder they didn't want to do any testing.

Meanwhile, unless they win in court, canny says it's fine. :shake head:
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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:38 pm

Canny would have defended the tobacco industry on the grounds of have you ever seen the tobacco industry found guilty of bad health effects .... well have you?
He would have gone on like that for years.
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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Cannydc » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:57 pm

Fletch wrote;

"That's the testing procedure now then, 'so what if it's harmful, sue us'.

Someone with the power and money to to take the establishment and it's corporate cronies to court is a tall order. Just look at how long monsanto got away with it, and still are, for example."


In the real world, Fletch, if there's as much as a sniff of a chance of a successful action, the Yanks are in like Flynn - and they use Class Action to share costs.

Pretending that 'Big Business' owns the courts these days is nonsense. The reason they 'get away with it' as you so endearingly put it, is that there is no provable responsibility in law.

It is noted, meanwhile, that no such action has, or is ever likely to succeed against 2G, 3G, 4G or, in the future 5G manufacturers should one even exist.
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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Cannydc » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:11 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Canny would have defended the tobacco industry on the grounds of have you ever seen the tobacco industry found guilty of bad health effects .... well have you?
He would have gone on like that for years.


Oh dear - not going well for you, this discussion.

The difference for all to see are the distinct physical symptoms. Smoker's cough was known to all. And by the 1950s even the doctors knew. But of course, things like class action didn't happen then.

What are the physical symptoms for illness caused by low level exposure to non-ionising radiation ? Remember, your mobile phone, TV, microwave, Wifi all emit non-ionising radiation...
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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Fletch » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:10 pm

Cannydc wrote:Fletch wrote;

"That's the testing procedure now then, 'so what if it's harmful, sue us'.

Someone with the power and money to to take the establishment and it's corporate cronies to court is a tall order. Just look at how long monsanto got away with it, and still are, for example."


In the real world, Fletch, if there's as much as a sniff of a chance of a successful action, the Yanks are in like Flynn - and they use Class Action to share costs.

Pretending that 'Big Business' owns the courts these days is nonsense. The reason they 'get away with it' as you so endearingly put it, is that there is no provable responsibility in law.

It is noted, meanwhile, that no such action has, or is ever likely to succeed against 2G, 3G, 4G or, in the future 5G manufacturers should one even exist.


And they know it, hence no safety testing by them.

Meanwhile scientific folk and establishments continue to point out the dangers. As always, powerful and wealthy players rule the roost, it shouldn't be like that but it is because of people like you.
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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Fletch » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:05 pm

What You Don’t Know About 5G but Will Find Out When Its Too Late

Friends and acquaintances and their children in Vienna are already reporting the classic symptoms of EMR poisoning:[9] nosebleeds, headaches, eye pains, chest pains, nausea, fatigue, vomiting, tinnitus, dizziness, flu-like symptoms, and cardiac pain. They also report a tight band around the head; pressure on the top of the head; short, stabbing pains around the body; and buzzing internal organs. Other biological effects such as tumours and dementia usually take longer to manifest, but in the case of 5G, which has never been tested for health or safety, who knows?[10]

Seemingly overnight a forest of 5G infrastructure has sprouted in Austria. In the space of three weeks one friend has gone from robust health to fleeing this country, where she has lived for 30 years. Each person experiences EMR differently. For her, it was extreme torture so she and I spent her last two nights in Austria sleeping in the woods. Interestingly, as she drove across southern Germany, she suffered torture even worse than in Austria, while in northern Germany she had no symptoms at all and felt completely normal, which suggests that there has been as yet no 5G rollout there.

There are no legal limits on exposure to EMR. Conveniently for the telecommunications industry, there are only non-legally enforceable guidelines such as those produced by the grandly named International Commission on Non-Ionising Radiation Protection, which turns out to be like the Wizard of Oz, just a tiny little NGO in Germany that appoints its own members, none of whom is a medical doctor or environmental expert.[11]

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Re: Brussels Becomes First Major City to Halt 5G

Postby Cannydc » Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:38 pm

You cannot be serious, Fletch !!!

For your information, anecdotal evidence is not scientific proof.

"i know someone who...." does not represent peer reviewed evidence.

"Who knows" is unlikely to ever be accepted as an accurate forecast of the future.

"Each person experiences EMR differently" is absolutely vague, meaningless nonsense simply designed to frighten the unsuspecting or ignorant.

"Friends and acquaintances and their children in Vienna", presumably none of whom possess mobile phones, which at the range from the user produce a far higher EMR than a 3G, 4G or 5G transmission at range. None who have laptops, WiFi transmitters in their homes etc, etc. And all who started having horrific 'symptoms' when 5G was switched on ??? Come off it.

Honestly, Fletch, your desperation is showing...... badly. Please stop insulting people's intelligence by churning out endless CT shite from that site. They don't even bother to disguise their all round contempt and hatred for anything new, Western, medical or scientific.
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