The Mueller Report

The Mueller Report

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:21 pm

Anything concrete on this thing yet?

Anyone really understand this shit?
I like this guy ....

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Fletch » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:28 pm

Robert Mueller Did Not Merely Reject the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theories. He Obliterated Them

The key fact is this: Mueller – contrary to weeks of false media claims – did not merely issue a narrow, cramped, legalistic finding that there was insufficient evidence to indict Trump associates for conspiring with Russia and then proving their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. That would have been devastating enough to those who spent the last two years or more misleading people to believe that conspiracy convictions of Trump’s closest aides and family members were inevitable. But his mandate was much broader than that: to state what did or did not happen.

That’s precisely what he did: Mueller, in addition to concluding that evidence was insufficient to charge any American with crimes relating to Russian election interference, also stated emphatically in numerous instances that there was no evidence – not merely that there was insufficient evidence to obtain a criminal conviction – that key prongs of this three-year-old conspiracy theory actually happened. As Mueller himself put it: “in some instances, the report points out the absence of evidence or conflicts in the evidence about a particular fact or event.”

With regard to Facebook ads and Twitter posts from the Russia-based Internet Research Agency, for example, Mueller could not have been more blunt: “The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation” (emphasis added). Note that this exoneration includes not only Trump campaign officials but all Americans:

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51459.htm

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As I have always said, it was a scam dreamt up by the Dems and people associated with them to stop Trump becoming President and/or take him down when he did.

The boot is on the other foot now and those that carried out this scam are now in the cross-hairs. Crossfire hurricane is about come back and bite the deep state and Dems.
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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby LordRaven » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:29 pm

Fletch wrote:Robert Mueller Did Not Merely Reject the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theories. He Obliterated Them

The key fact is this: Mueller – contrary to weeks of false media claims – did not merely issue a narrow, cramped, legalistic finding that there was insufficient evidence to indict Trump associates for conspiring with Russia and then proving their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. That would have been devastating enough to those who spent the last two years or more misleading people to believe that conspiracy convictions of Trump’s closest aides and family members were inevitable. But his mandate was much broader than that: to state what did or did not happen.

That’s precisely what he did: Mueller, in addition to concluding that evidence was insufficient to charge any American with crimes relating to Russian election interference, also stated emphatically in numerous instances that there was no evidence – not merely that there was insufficient evidence to obtain a criminal conviction – that key prongs of this three-year-old conspiracy theory actually happened. As Mueller himself put it: “in some instances, the report points out the absence of evidence or conflicts in the evidence about a particular fact or event.”

With regard to Facebook ads and Twitter posts from the Russia-based Internet Research Agency, for example, Mueller could not have been more blunt: “The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation” (emphasis added). Note that this exoneration includes not only Trump campaign officials but all Americans:

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51459.htm

More details on link.

As I have always said, it was a scam dreamt up by the Dems and people associated with them to stop Trump becoming President and/or take him down when he did.

The boot is on the other foot now and those that carried out this scam are now in the cross-hairs. Crossfire hurricane is about come back and bite the deep state and Dems.

Oh, so you have now gone back on your anti-trump crap prior to this.
Worra cunt you are :hand:
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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Fletch » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:37 pm

Mueller Report Says ‘Multiple Members’ of Trump Transition Approached Foreign Officials to Stop UN Resolution against Israeli Settlements

The Mueller Report was released today, and one section reveals that “multiple members” of the Trump transition team, led by Jared Kushner, the President’s son-in-law, “communicated with foreign government officials” in an effort to undermine the Obama White House’s decision to allow the passage of a UN Security Council resolution in December 2016 that was sharply critical of Israeli settlements.

We knew that Trump’s transition tried to block the resolution by reaching out to Russia; former national security adviser Mike Flynn has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about the matter.

The news here is that “multiple members” of the transition team reached out to other foreign countries. The report suggests that in order “to support Israel,” Jared Kushner issued an all points bulletin throughout the transition team. (The report confirms what the Wall Street Journal characterized as a “blitz” in its own investigation of the incident last year.)

It has been reported that Israeli officials initiated the action by the Trump team:

Despite no mention in [an earlier Mueller filing] document, the Trump team’s decision to contact Russia was made following requests by senior Israeli officials that they try to intervene.

Flynn’s guilty plea in 2017 says that he was directed by a “very senior” official, who it is reported was Kushner, to approach officials of foreign governments. But Flynn only mentioned Russia as a country he approached.

There was speculation that Kushner would get caught up in the Mueller probe. Though he has escaped indictment. The Guardian:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/mueller-r ... ts/5675031

But that is criminal but because it's Israel, no-one will say or do anything. :roll:
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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby LordRaven » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:57 pm

Fletch wrote:Mueller Report Says ‘Multiple Members’ of Trump Transition Approached Foreign Officials to Stop UN Resolution against Israeli Settlements

The Mueller Report was released today, and one section reveals that “multiple members” of the Trump transition team, led by Jared Kushner, the President’s son-in-law, “communicated with foreign government officials” in an effort to undermine the Obama White House’s decision to allow the passage of a UN Security Council resolution in December 2016 that was sharply critical of Israeli settlements.

We knew that Trump’s transition tried to block the resolution by reaching out to Russia; former national security adviser Mike Flynn has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about the matter.

The news here is that “multiple members” of the transition team reached out to other foreign countries. The report suggests that in order “to support Israel,” Jared Kushner issued an all points bulletin throughout the transition team. (The report confirms what the Wall Street Journal characterized as a “blitz” in its own investigation of the incident last year.)

It has been reported that Israeli officials initiated the action by the Trump team:

Despite no mention in [an earlier Mueller filing] document, the Trump team’s decision to contact Russia was made following requests by senior Israeli officials that they try to intervene.

Flynn’s guilty plea in 2017 says that he was directed by a “very senior” official, who it is reported was Kushner, to approach officials of foreign governments. But Flynn only mentioned Russia as a country he approached.

There was speculation that Kushner would get caught up in the Mueller probe. Though he has escaped indictment. The Guardian:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/mueller-r ... ts/5675031

But that is criminal but because it's Israel, no-one will say or do anything. :roll:

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Fletch » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:32 pm

Will the Senior-Level FBI Agents, Who Placed Spies in the Trump Campaign, Ever be Held Accountable?

Did the FBI spy on the Trump campaign? - Yes

Did the FBI place spies in the Trump campaign? - Yes

Do we know the names of the spies and how they operated? - Yes

Were the spies trying to entrap Trump campaign assistants in order to gather information on Trump? - Yes

Did the spies try to elicit information from Trump campaign assistants in order to justify a wider investigation and more extensive surveillance? - Yes

Were the spies placed in the Trump campaign based on improperly obtained FISA warrants? - Yes

Did the FBI agents procure these warrants based on false or misleading information? - Yes

Could the FBI establish “probable cause” that Trump had committed a crime or “colluded” with Russia? - No

So the ‘spying’ was illegal? - Yes

Have many of the people who authorized the spying, already been identified in criminal referrals presented to the Department of Justice? - Yes

The rest on http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51488.htm

As has been said by a number of people now, 'Operation Crossfire Hurricane Is Now Crossfire Boomerang'

Deep state exposed. :cronos:
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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Cactus Jack » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:14 am

Fletch wrote:Will the Senior-Level FBI Agents, Who Placed Spies in the Trump Campaign, Ever be Held Accountable?

Did the FBI spy on the Trump campaign? - Yes
Actually that's a no.

There was an ongoing investigation into Russian interference where contacts and conversations between members of the Trump campaign and Russian operatives were noted, and it's equally true there were similar contacts with other campaigns but - and this is the distinction - where other campaigns refused further contact and reported the approaches the Trump campaign did not.

Whereas this does not meet the legal standard for conspiracy as it does not demonstrate prior knowledge and consent - and as the Trump camp has so consistently pointed out 'collusion' is not a thing that legally exist - it does show that Trump's campaign knew the Russians were interfering in the election on their behalf and chose not to make it public.


Did the FBI place spies in the Trump campaign? - Yes
in fact again that's a no - there were no spies in the Trump campaign

Some members of Trump's campaign were identified as working with the Russian and later turned State's Evidence but just as Trump's defence against working with the Russians is the lack of foreknowledge so is the FBI's defence against the idea they 'spied' on the Trump campaign vindicated. To allow a conspirator to act as a corroboratory witness against a co-conspirator is not spying. However the uncorroborated testimony of a co-conspirator does not meet the legal standard required to indict the principal - that is why Robert Mueller stated his cases does not 'establish' collusion it merely cannot rule collusion out.


Do we know the names of the spies and how they operated? - Yes

No - text chat is not testimony and the full text relating to both witnesses, as released by a Pro-Trump source is - to put it mildly - far from exculpatory for Trump

Were the spies trying to entrap Trump campaign assistants in order to gather information on Trump? - Yes
NO Entrapment requires so that a crime should be solicited now merely agreed to -

Did the spies try to elicit information from Trump campaign assistants in order to justify a wider investigation and more extensive surveillance? - Yes

Were the spies placed in the Trump campaign based on improperly obtained FISA warrants? - Yes

No - see above

Did the FBI agents procure these warrants based on false or misleading information? - Yes

Absolutely not - in fact they failed to follow some leads that were more than promising because the guidance said a sitting President could not be indicted in a criminal conspiracy

Could the FBI establish “probable cause” that Trump had committed a crime or “colluded” with Russia? - No

True in that collusion is not a crime

If you tell me that you're going to steal a truckload of beer and will leave a few cases by my front door that is a conspiracy for which I could be indicted

If you tell me that you're going to - out of the goodness of your heart - leave me a few cases of beer at my front door and BTW if anyone asks you don't think I hijacked the beer truck that's just you stating your opinion - sort of.

So the ‘spying’ was illegal? - Yes
It wasn't even spying so the question is moot

Have many of the people who authorized the spying, already been identified in criminal referrals presented to the Department of Justice? - Yes

Actually - no. Some have been identified in documents that go out of their way to explain their purpose is to explore scenarios that would be be exculpatory to the Presiden but that's far from being the same thing

The rest on http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51488.htm

As has been said by a number of people now, 'Operation Crossfire Hurricane Is Now Crossfire Boomerang'

Deep state exposed. :cronos:

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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Fletch » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:03 pm

Oh dear CJ, you must be one of the last still clinging desperately to the CNN, MNSBC, MSM propaganda. :pointlaugh:

What was Operation Crossfire Hurricane CJ?
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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Cactus Jack » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:29 pm

Operation Crossfire Hurricane would be the investigation into the hack of Hillary Clinton's email server, one thread of that investigation led to wiretaps on known Russian operatives operating out of Trump Tower and it was where intelligence services learned that Russian operatives had been in touch with the Trump Campaign.

At that stage it was nothing particularly unusual - you can practically guarantee every campaign is approached with clandestine intelligence at one time or another and to our knowledge all but one campaign immediately reported that approach to the authorities. Guess who was the exception.

I'll give you a clue it was the Trump Campaign.
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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Fletch » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:45 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:Operation Crossfire Hurricane would be the investigation into the hack of Hillary Clinton's email server, one thread of that investigation led to wiretaps on known Russian operatives operating out of Trump Tower and it was where intelligence services learned that Russian operatives had been in touch with the Trump Campaign.

At that stage it was nothing particularly unusual - you can practically guarantee every campaign is approached with clandestine intelligence at one time or another and to our knowledge all but one campaign immediately reported that approach to the authorities. Guess who was the exception.

I'll give you a clue it was the Trump Campaign.


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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Cactus Jack » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:49 pm

Fletch wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Operation Crossfire Hurricane would be the investigation into the hack of Hillary Clinton's email server, one thread of that investigation led to wiretaps on known Russian operatives operating out of Trump Tower and it was where intelligence services learned that Russian operatives had been in touch with the Trump Campaign.

At that stage it was nothing particularly unusual - you can practically guarantee every campaign is approached with clandestine intelligence at one time or another and to our knowledge all but one campaign immediately reported that approach to the authorities. Guess who was the exception.

I'll give you a clue it was the Trump Campaign.


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So you've run out of bullshit at last.
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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Fletch » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:56 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Operation Crossfire Hurricane would be the investigation into the hack of Hillary Clinton's email server, one thread of that investigation led to wiretaps on known Russian operatives operating out of Trump Tower and it was where intelligence services learned that Russian operatives had been in touch with the Trump Campaign.

At that stage it was nothing particularly unusual - you can practically guarantee every campaign is approached with clandestine intelligence at one time or another and to our knowledge all but one campaign immediately reported that approach to the authorities. Guess who was the exception.

I'll give you a clue it was the Trump Campaign.


:pmsl:

So you've run out of bullshit at last.


Not me bullshitting. I've said all along there was no Russia collusion and the deep state tried to fit Trump up to stop him being President or remove him once he was. A number of posts I made in Clinton thread detail some of it.

It's you that hasn't provided any evidence of collusion. Meanwhile, Andrew McCabe, Comey, Sessions and many others gone. Trump not charged with anything. Dems running scared as their creation has blown up in their face.

You....CNN parrot. :off head:
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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Cactus Jack » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:27 pm

So you're still full of bullshit
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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Guest » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:28 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:Operation Crossfire Hurricane would be the investigation into the hack of Hillary Clinton's email server, one thread of that investigation led to wiretaps on known Russian operatives operating out of Trump Tower and it was where intelligence services learned that Russian operatives had been in touch with the Trump Campaign.

At that stage it was nothing particularly unusual - you can practically guarantee every campaign is approached with clandestine intelligence at one time or another and to our knowledge all but one campaign immediately reported that approach to the authorities. Guess who was the exception.

I'll give you a clue it was the Trump Campaign.



The mueller report says NOTHING of the kind dumbazz.
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Re: The Mueller Report

Postby Cactus Jack » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:11 pm

Guest wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Operation Crossfire Hurricane would be the investigation into the hack of Hillary Clinton's email server, one thread of that investigation led to wiretaps on known Russian operatives operating out of Trump Tower and it was where intelligence services learned that Russian operatives had been in touch with the Trump Campaign.

At that stage it was nothing particularly unusual - you can practically guarantee every campaign is approached with clandestine intelligence at one time or another and to our knowledge all but one campaign immediately reported that approach to the authorities. Guess who was the exception.

I'll give you a clue it was the Trump Campaign.



The mueller report says NOTHING of the kind dumbazz.


Try reading it - it says exactly that.

The Mueller Report was not into Trump it was a report into Russian interference in the US 2016 Elections "and any other matters arising" - a possible criminal conspiracy between the Trump Campaign and the Russians has dominated coverage but it was not the primary focus.

What Mueller concluded was the Russians did interfere, they did so on behalf of Trump, that some members of the Trump campaign were aware of this an did not act to appropriately in accordance with that knowledge.

It also says that its investigations were repeatedly infringed upon and impeded and, in part due to infringement, it has not been possible to provide conclusive proof of a criminal conspiracy - which requires consent and foreknowledge of a crime - but it cannot, and does not, exonerate the Trump campaign.

It has left to Congress the question of whether Trumps actions and attempted actions to infringe upon and impede the investigation rise to the level of Obstruction of Justice because it is following the advice - and again it states this openly and clearly - that a sitting President cannot be indicted.

Another prosecutor - like one in the ongoing investigation into Trump's campaign finance violations - might reach a different conclusion and issue an indictment of Trump.
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