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Re: Iran

Postby art0hur0moh » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:05 am

when banks got a higher price for their contracts during the shut down of the canal during the arab spring. there was a violent oppression of the egyptian People after the coupe of the muslim brotherhood! I did think it strange how there was no way to prosecute mubarak before the coup? they got their puppet back in after the contracts where closed very easily.
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Re: Iran

Postby art0hur0moh » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:10 am

art0hur0moh wrote:when banks got a higher price for their contracts during the shut down of the canal during the arab spring. there was a violent oppression of the egyptian People after the coupe of the muslim brotherhood! I did think it strange how there was no way to prosecute mubarak before the coup? they got their puppet back in after the contracts where closed very easily.

and the u.k. is still owed payment for the construction of the canal!
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Re: Iran

Postby Guesticles » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:44 am

art0hur0moh wrote:
Guest wrote:Finally. Fletch and Jack have said they want nuclear proliferation, and not only that, they want totalitarian regimes whose own populations live in fear to have them too.
The fletch and jack utopia

I bet You don't know what the current global arsonal of nuclear weapons is, nor how many israel have! and the latest countries to join who have been engaged in military conflict consistently for the past 60 years both allies of the west. why not give every country nukes if they want them? oh, that is right the cost of maintaining them is so high it would bankrupt half of them in ten years!

iran was within the first five countries to sign the nuclear proliferation treaty! the 5th member of the regulator (can't remember what they are called?) You don't have civil nuclear reactors! iran does, with enrichment limited to 5%! which even without the consistent threats by the demos corporation directing u.s. and british foreign policy since the curator of the a shipping corporation was stopped from producing opium in iran. because it is illegal in iran, as is the production of nuclear weapons.

just ask the iranian ambassador stationed there in the 50s!

add to that the threat of bp and texaco interests resulting in a threat to the petro dollar. and You will find it to be no more an excuse to raise prices at the pumps! there is nothing happening there! it is just one of the few tactics they use to move the price of oil in the markets!

Far out! Heavy man! Tying nuclear reactors into the same sentence as producing opium would be difficult for most but you manage to do it seamlessly and with ease.
If the mad mullahs get the bomb it won’t end well.
Israel will be launching Jericho 2’s in a pre-emptive strike and the walls will come tumbling down
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Re: Iran

Postby Fletch » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:26 pm

Guesticles wrote:
art0hur0moh wrote:
Guest wrote:Finally. Fletch and Jack have said they want nuclear proliferation, and not only that, they want totalitarian regimes whose own populations live in fear to have them too.
The fletch and jack utopia

I bet You don't know what the current global arsonal of nuclear weapons is, nor how many israel have! and the latest countries to join who have been engaged in military conflict consistently for the past 60 years both allies of the west. why not give every country nukes if they want them? oh, that is right the cost of maintaining them is so high it would bankrupt half of them in ten years!

iran was within the first five countries to sign the nuclear proliferation treaty! the 5th member of the regulator (can't remember what they are called?) You don't have civil nuclear reactors! iran does, with enrichment limited to 5%! which even without the consistent threats by the demos corporation directing u.s. and british foreign policy since the curator of the a shipping corporation was stopped from producing opium in iran. because it is illegal in iran, as is the production of nuclear weapons.

just ask the iranian ambassador stationed there in the 50s!

add to that the threat of bp and texaco interests resulting in a threat to the petro dollar. and You will find it to be no more an excuse to raise prices at the pumps! there is nothing happening there! it is just one of the few tactics they use to move the price of oil in the markets!

Far out! Heavy man! Tying nuclear reactors into the same sentence as producing opium would be difficult for most but you manage to do it seamlessly and with ease.
If the mad mullahs get the bomb it won’t end well.
Israel will be launching Jericho 2’s in a pre-emptive strike and the walls will come tumbling down


Of course they would raven Armchair General :woteva:

Israel will do what it always does, get the US to fight it's battle for them whilst taking pot shots from a safe distance.

Cowards, manipulative cowards. Always have been, always will be.
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Re: Iran

Postby Fletch » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:34 pm

Gibraltar changed its sanctions laws to impound Iranian ship

Gibraltar updated its sanctions enforcement regulations 36 hours before Royal Marines impounded an Iranian tanker when it stopped for supplies in the territory, lawyers have said.

The seizure of the Grace 1 earlier this month, which prompted Iran to threaten reciprocal actions, is at the heart of the crisis unfolding the Gulf.

The legal changes, reported by the blog EU Sanctions, suggest both that the operation was meticulously planned and that the authorities feared it would need a clearer legal basis.

Gibraltar incorporated Sanctions Regulations 2019 into local law on July 3, specifically giving its authorities the right to “designate and detain” ships if the chief minister suspects they are being used to breach EU sanctions. Details of the events leading up to the seizure…

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gibr ... -lc5vm59bh

It doesn't explain how the EU (or UK really) came to the conclusion that EU sanctions applied to third party non EU countries? :scratch:

in fact, it looks very much like deliberate action by the UK on orders from above (the outlaw nation) So that's straight up piracy then. :shake head:
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Re: Iran

Postby Cannydc » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:50 pm

"It doesn't explain how the EU (or UK really) came to the conclusion that EU sanctions applied to third party non EU countries?"

Surely EU sanctions would ONLY apply to third party non EU countries?
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Re: Iran

Postby Fletch » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:44 am

Cannydc wrote:"It doesn't explain how the EU (or UK really) came to the conclusion that EU sanctions applied to third party non EU countries?"

Surely EU sanctions would ONLY apply to third party non EU countries?


The EU only have power to sanction (prevent) EU member countries from trading with Syria. They can't impose their 'rules' on non EU member states. They have no jurisdiction over Syria or Iran, all they can do is stop EU trade with Syria. But on what grounds?

The US sanctions work in a different way as they control SWIFT. If they shut a country out of SWIFT, that means they can't trade with many countries. hence the move away from SWIFT in the East and in Europe with INSTEX.
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Re: Iran

Postby Cannydc » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:43 pm

Fletch wrote:
Cannydc wrote:"It doesn't explain how the EU (or UK really) came to the conclusion that EU sanctions applied to third party non EU countries?"

Surely EU sanctions would ONLY apply to third party non EU countries?


The EU only have power to sanction (prevent) EU member countries from trading with Syria. They can't impose their 'rules' on non EU member states. They have no jurisdiction over Syria or Iran, all they can do is stop EU trade with Syria. But on what grounds?

The US sanctions work in a different way as they control SWIFT. If they shut a country out of SWIFT, that means they can't trade with many countries. hence the move away from SWIFT in the East and in Europe with INSTEX.


Ah, OK - I misunderstood your post.

I don't think the EU 'imposes' it's rules on non-EU states, but works with allies to forge agreements as to when and if sanctions should be applied.
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Re: Iran

Postby Fletch » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:04 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Cannydc wrote:"It doesn't explain how the EU (or UK really) came to the conclusion that EU sanctions applied to third party non EU countries?"

Surely EU sanctions would ONLY apply to third party non EU countries?


The EU only have power to sanction (prevent) EU member countries from trading with Syria. They can't impose their 'rules' on non EU member states. They have no jurisdiction over Syria or Iran, all they can do is stop EU trade with Syria. But on what grounds?

The US sanctions work in a different way as they control SWIFT. If they shut a country out of SWIFT, that means they can't trade with many countries. hence the move away from SWIFT in the East and in Europe with INSTEX.


Ah, OK - I misunderstood your post.

I don't think the EU 'imposes' it's rules on non-EU states, but works with allies to forge agreements as to when and if sanctions should be applied.


They have no legal right to do so, not even to sanction a country without putting it through relevant bodies. (UN?)

The ship wasn't even in Syrian waters so what was the evidence it was heading for Syria?

And if it was, so what? It's up to Iran and Syria whether they trade or not, nobody else.

What grounds are the EU sanctioning Syria on? :dunno:
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Re: Iran

Postby LordRaven » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:11 pm

What a ridiculous argument. We all know what is going on. Why question it when you know too Felch.
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Re: Iran

Postby Fletch » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:23 pm

LordRaven wrote:What a ridiculous argument. We all know what is going on. Why question it when you know too Felch.


No argument, just questions.

Do you have the answers or is it just more of you stalking me?
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Re: Iran

Postby Fletch » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:24 pm

US STOPS Gibraltar releasing Iranian oil tanker and tries to seize it a month after Royal Marines boarded it and kick-started stand-off in the Gulf

Grace 1 was to be released by Gibraltar today after it was captured last month
But US Department of Justice applied to seize the vessel hours before its release
British Royal Marines impounded the oil tanker off Gibraltar on July 4
Iran accused Britain of acting as US vassal and seized a British tanker on July 19


The US has blocked the release of an Iranian oil tanker today after it was impounded by Britain's Royal Marines off Gibraltar last month.

The British overseas territory was expected to release the Grace 1 on Thursday but the US Department of Justice intervened in court at the last minute as the Gulf stand-off continues.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... month.html

On what legal basis?

oh I forgot, the outlaw nation and it's vassals don't worry about such things.
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