Rolluplostinspace wrote:People are Happier in Social Democracies Because There’s Less Capitalism
Why Social Democracy is an Immune System for Capitalism’s Economic, Psychological, Social, and Moral Ills
I came across this interesting little .... ten minute read.
How true is it?
Does it give us warning about the hard Brexit we're headed for and Wall st and Branson taking our health care?
Does it help explain American violence the way it says in the write up?
https://eand.co/people-are-happier-in-s ... 0a9c71bfc1
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Maddog kept coming to mind and the way he's always derided social welfare and spoken of his daughters getting jobs because they can compete.
Sorry Mads but you fit this article so well.
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Maddog kept coming to mind and the way he's always derided social welfare and spoken of his daughters getting jobs because they can compete.
Sorry Mads but you fit this article so well.
So Americans must compete bitterly and more desperately every single year for necessities, in fact — precisely because capitalism tied things like healthcare and retirement and childcare to “jobs”, but never pays labour a penny more, only constantly raises prices in order to take all it can for itself.
Hence, they must compete perpetually with one another not to lose their jobs — because there goes a life — but never quite see: there is no need whatsoever to contest these things at all in the first place. The result is that all the very same necessities of life in America now cost vastly more than in Europe — nobody in Europe pays $30,000 to have a child — and Americans must compete bitterly for them, to begin with. Do you see what a strange, bizarre, and foolish mess Americans have made of their society?
Who has really won the endless and bruising contest Americans are perpetually fighting with one another for the basic necessities of life, pitted against one another by capitalism? None of them, really. Capitalism has. What other great empire recently collapsed because ideology meant people were going without life’s necessities, even when they could have easily been provided to all? The Soviet Union, of course — and in a grand and gruesome twist of history, America is collapsing for exactly the same reason, and in the same way, too.
Rolluplostinspace wrote:People are Happier in Social Democracies Because There’s Less Capitalism
wutang wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:People are Happier in Social Democracies Because There’s Less Capitalism
There isn't 'less capitalism' in social democracies, they are very much part and parcel of the global capitalist system. The happiness in social democracies comes at the expense of the poorer parts of the world which are exploited fully in order to fund the social democratic programs in the richer countries.
While Attlee was building the NHS he was also building concentration camps in Malaysia to keep the workers in line. While the Tory Government on the 50's was building record numbers of council houses it was also chopping body parts off of people in Kenya. In order for a future Labour Government to fund a social democratic future for the UK it must tax the profits of the major corporations whose money flows into London, but where does that money come from? and how is it accumulated? the irony then becomes that in order to maintain this SocDem program them profits must keep flowing in to be taxed, which means the poor peoples who blood sweat and tears generate it must continue to suffer.
Hardly 'less capitalism' for them
wutang wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:People are Happier in Social Democracies Because There’s Less Capitalism
There isn't 'less capitalism' in social democracies, they are very much part and parcel of the global capitalist system. The happiness in social democracies comes at the expense of the poorer parts of the world which are exploited fully in order to fund the social democratic programs in the richer countries.
While Attlee was building the NHS he was also building concentration camps in Malaysia to keep the workers in line. While the Tory Government on the 50's was building record numbers of council houses it was also chopping body parts off of people in Kenya. In order for a future Labour Government to fund a social democratic future for the UK it must tax the profits of the major corporations whose money flows into London, but where does that money come from? and how is it accumulated? the irony then becomes that in order to maintain this SocDem program them profits must keep flowing in to be taxed, which means the poor peoples who blood sweat and tears generate it must continue to suffer.
Hardly 'less capitalism' for them
Rolluplostinspace wrote:There is less capitalism when Libraries education leisure transport health utilities are publicly owned.
You're confusing yourself with socialism.
Socialism doesn't exist and can't while banks create the capital at interest.
wutang wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:There is less capitalism when Libraries education leisure transport health utilities are publicly owned.
You're confusing yourself with socialism.
Socialism doesn't exist and can't while banks create the capital at interest.
No you are confused about what capitalism is. A capitalist system is one where the capitalist mode of production is the pre-dominant form of social production. The key part here is SOCIAL production - i.e the very society we live in is created along the lines of capitalist production, i.e the logic of capital accumulation.
All those things can only exist within capitalism as long as the accumulation of capital proceeds uninterrupted and on its terms and that means exploiting mutherfuckers because... thats what capital accumulation is, the exploitation of labour by capital.
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Yawn .... the fucking population of England are faced with less capitalism in their daily lives when Libraries transport leisure health education etc are socialised.
Rolluplostinspace wrote:wutang wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:There is less capitalism when Libraries education leisure transport health utilities are publicly owned.
You're confusing yourself with socialism.
Socialism doesn't exist and can't while banks create the capital at interest.
No you are confused about what capitalism is. A capitalist system is one where the capitalist mode of production is the pre-dominant form of social production. The key part here is SOCIAL production - i.e the very society we live in is created along the lines of capitalist production, i.e the logic of capital accumulation.
All those things can only exist within capitalism as long as the accumulation of capital proceeds uninterrupted and on its terms and that means exploiting mutherfuckers because... thats what capital accumulation is, the exploitation of labour by capital.
Yawn .... the fucking population of England are faced with less capitalism in their daily lives when Libraries transport leisure health education etc are socialised.
Giving birth in America costs about thirty thousand dollars .... full on capitalist experience.
Giving birth in the UK cost you nothing face up.
One woman could become homeless bankrupt because she's pregnant but the other wouldn't.
So the population of the U.K faces less capitalism than the population of the USA.
That's because more in the UK is publicly owned by all of us.
wutang wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:Yawn .... the fucking population of England are faced with less capitalism in their daily lives when Libraries transport leisure health education etc are socialised.
But they are not socialised. They are state owned/managed which merely means a more state managed form of capitalism. This is not LESS capitalist and while the populations of England may enjoy a better form of capitalist MANAGEMENT the wealth that is required to flow into England to produce these things comes from some extremely unhappy people. This is why the UK Government historically fucked over workers movements around the world, and crushes rebellions in countries where British money is 'invested'.
Even the lovely social democratic Labour governments did it, in fact in some cases they were the most ruthless in doing it.
And this same logic fucks UK workers as well. They demand higher wages, means lower profits, means less taxes, means cuts to public services. Hence Government demanding restraint from workers.
This is why social democracy essentially failed - the need for government to placate capital by enforcing restictions on labour (working class). Capitalism is riddled with crisis and we always pay that price whether under social-democracy or not.
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