Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

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Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:58 pm

All this leave with a deal is nonsense.
We have already been told we have been offered a deal and that's it .... Europe won't be spending anymore time making up more deals .... take it or piss off is the message so why do people keep going on about getting a deal .... it's over it's done.
Stay or leave with the deal we were offered .... that's it folks.
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby Cannydc » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:07 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:All this leave with a deal is nonsense.
We have already been told we have been offered a deal and that's it .... Europe won't be spending anymore time making up more deals .... take it or piss off is the message so why do people keep going on about getting a deal .... it's over it's done.
Stay or leave with the deal we were offered .... that's it folks.


A Labour deal with the EU would be radically different, as it would mean remaining in the Customs Union, securing for instance continued EU market access allowing British farmers and food producers to continue to sell their products on the Continent, and harmonising of food and other standards.

It would guarantee existing rights for all EU nationals living in Britain and secure reciprocal rights for UK citizens who have chosen to make their lives in EU countries.

The UK would maintain all security ties with the EU (Interpol, etc) and maintain the EU arrest warrant.

And lots of other stuff the EU will happily agree to with little or no debate.
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby MungoBrush » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:09 pm

Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:You don't need to summarise - Labour party policy remains exactly as it was when I told you last time, a couple of hours ago. You can still read it here.

https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/negotiating-brexit/


Yes yes yes, I just quoted from that

So all that talk from Corbyn today about a 2nd referendum is bollox


Nope.

General election first

Deal with EU second

Referendum, with accept deal or remain on ballot paper third.

There - as simple as I can get, but very sad for you that I feel the need to do it. Are you having another "forgot return journey" moment ?


None of that is in the Labour Party policy
So you're just posting bollox
Just like Corbyn.


Are you a Labour party member and speaking with authority, or just Googling frantically and grasping at any straw of comfort ?

It is Labour policy, in that precise order.

"Whoever becomes the new Prime Minister (after a General Election) should have the confidence to put their deal, or No Deal, back to the people in a public vote. "

Jeremy Corbyn 9.7.2019

https://labour.org.uk/latest/stories/la ... blic-vote/

"If an election was called, Labour says it would go into a campaign arguing for a further referendum, with voters able to choose between a "credible Leave option" and Remain."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45640548

"We will scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union"

Labour manifesto 2017

https://labour.org.uk/manifesto/negotiating-brexit/


Where in the manifesto does it say that there will be another referendum?
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby Cannydc » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:08 pm

"Where in the manifesto does it say that there will be another referendum"

Labour policy is updated by Conference.

You are trying to read an outdated (early 2017) document. There have been 2 conferences since then.

Google won't help.
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:02 am

The Europeans have had enough and want us gone ... we are poison if we remain
There is no other deal coming.

Europeans once hoped the British would reverse Brexit. Now, many can’t wait for them to leave.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/e ... ailsignout
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby MungoBrush » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:13 am

Cannydc wrote:"Where in the manifesto does it say that there will be another referendum"

Labour policy is updated by Conference.

You are trying to read an outdated (early 2017) document. There have been 2 conferences since then.

Google won't help.


Ah yes - the conference
That's when all the £3 15-year-olds get to decide Labour policy

There's one coming up in a few days
Should be fun.
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby Cannydc » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:40 am

MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:"Where in the manifesto does it say that there will be another referendum"

Labour policy is updated by Conference.

You are trying to read an outdated (early 2017) document. There have been 2 conferences since then.

Google won't help.


Ah yes - the conference
That's when all the £3 15-year-olds get to decide Labour policy

There's one coming up in a few days
Should be fun.


Oh dear - you really should try boning up on this stuff before you post your garbage.

More info for you to store - best write it down, because you have the memory of a goldfish...

Each CLP (Constituency Labour Party) gets the right to send a delegate to Conference.

That delegate, chosen by the CLP, gets to vote at Conference on policy AS DIRECTED BY THE CLP.

So, first off it is EXTREMELY unlikely you will see any 15 year old delegates (they are at school) and if there were, they don't decide anything as they are directed by the CLP, i.e. party members.

And we love having them in the party, they are excellent workers, enthusiastic, knowledgeable and I look forward (as they do) to them getting the vote at 16.
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby Guest » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:23 am

Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:"Where in the manifesto does it say that there will be another referendum"

Labour policy is updated by Conference.

You are trying to read an outdated (early 2017) document. There have been 2 conferences since then.

Google won't help.


Ah yes - the conference
That's when all the £3 15-year-olds get to decide Labour policy

There's one coming up in a few days
Should be fun.


Oh dear - you really should try boning up on this stuff before you post your garbage.

More info for you to store - best write it down, because you have the memory of a goldfish...

Each CLP (Constituency Labour Party) gets the right to send a delegate to Conference.

That delegate, chosen by the CLP, gets to vote at Conference on policy AS DIRECTED BY THE CLP.

So, first off it is EXTREMELY unlikely you will see any 15 year old delegates (they are at school) and if there were, they don't decide anything as they are directed by the CLP, i.e. party members.

And we love having them in the party, they are excellent workers, enthusiastic, knowledgeable and I look forward (as they do) to them getting the vote at 16.

Maybe he's thinking about the Tories conference

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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby Cannydc » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:37 am

:pmsl: :pmsl:

Probably.

Meanwhile, most of us try very hard NOT to bring that nasally challenged berk to mind.
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby MungoBrush » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:40 pm

Northern Irish court dismisses case against no-deal Brexit
Judge says claims hard border would damage peace process are political, not legal, issues

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby McAz » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:44 pm

MungoBrush wrote:Northern Irish court dismisses case against no-deal Brexit
Judge says claims hard border would damage peace process are political, not legal, issues

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit


Not relevant to this thread except that it has the word "court" in it. :shake head:
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby Cannydc » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:37 pm

McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:Northern Irish court dismisses case against no-deal Brexit
Judge says claims hard border would damage peace process are political, not legal, issues

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit


Not relevant to this thread except that it has the word "court" in it. :shake head:


He's still trying to figure out how to justify his statement that 15 year olds will be 'making policy' at the Labour conference rather than be in school...

A tough one, could take a while.
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby Guest » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:47 pm

Cannydc wrote:
McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:Northern Irish court dismisses case against no-deal Brexit
Judge says claims hard border would damage peace process are political, not legal, issues

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit


Not relevant to this thread except that it has the word "court" in it. :shake head:


He's still trying to figure out how to justify his statement that 15 year olds will be 'making policy' at the Labour conference rather than be in school...

A tough one, could take a while.


I wonder if he could enlighten us on the procedures at the Tory party conference.

Looks to me that it's just a very few elderly and infirm people, mostly falling asleep whilst being lectured to.
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby McAz » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:51 pm

Cannydc wrote:
McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:Northern Irish court dismisses case against no-deal Brexit
Judge says claims hard border would damage peace process are political, not legal, issues

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit


Not relevant to this thread except that it has the word "court" in it. :shake head:


He's still trying to figure out how to justify his statement that 15 year olds will be 'making policy' at the Labour conference rather than be in school...

A tough one, could take a while.

Especially since...

Tory leadership: How 15-year-olds can vote for next PM - but NOT in a general election

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1154633/tory-leadership-voting-age-tory-leadership-vote-deadline-uk-election-boris-johnson
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Re: Scottish judges rule suspension of parliament illegal

Postby Cannydc » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:58 pm

McAz wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
McAz wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:Northern Irish court dismisses case against no-deal Brexit
Judge says claims hard border would damage peace process are political, not legal, issues

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit


Not relevant to this thread except that it has the word "court" in it. :shake head:


He's still trying to figure out how to justify his statement that 15 year olds will be 'making policy' at the Labour conference rather than be in school...

A tough one, could take a while.

Especially since...

Tory leadership: How 15-year-olds can vote for next PM - but NOT in a general election

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1154633/tory-leadership-voting-age-tory-leadership-vote-deadline-uk-election-boris-johnson
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:pmsl: :pmsl: :pmsl: That had quite slipped my mind. And we got Bojo. Christ!
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