Cleared after almost 50 years

Re: Cleared after almost 50 years

Postby Maddog » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:11 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:The sad truth is that nobody is perfect and no system is perfect.

We try our best to get the least imperfect system we can and because we suck so much we can't even manage that for enough of the time.

What's left is a choice between dogmatism and owning mistakes and moving on.

Conservatism, in my experience opts for former where progressive plumps for the latter.

I am not a conservative


The choice is more or less of an imperfect system having influence on your life, regardless of that system coming from a conservative or progressive position.

The left boot and the right boot both feel like shit on your throat.
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Re: Cleared after almost 50 years

Postby Grafenwalder » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:24 pm

Maddog wrote:The system and the dependency of the citizens corrupts.

“Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.”

“Despotic power is always accompanied by corruption of morality.”

“Authority that does not exist for Liberty is not authority but force.”

“Everybody likes to get as much power as circumstances allow, and nobody will vote for a self-denying ordinance.”


Lord Acton is a bit better informed than any of your politicians of any party.

WTF does any of that have to do with the case I posted on? :dunno:
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Re: Cleared after almost 50 years

Postby Maddog » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:30 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:The system and the dependency of the citizens corrupts.

“Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.”

“Despotic power is always accompanied by corruption of morality.”

“Authority that does not exist for Liberty is not authority but force.”

“Everybody likes to get as much power as circumstances allow, and nobody will vote for a self-denying ordinance.”


Lord Acton is a bit better informed than any of your politicians of any party.

WTF does any of that have to do with the case I posted on? :dunno:


It has to do with government getting so powerful that it abuses the people it is supposed to serve.
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Re: Cleared after almost 50 years

Postby Cactus Jack » Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:03 am

Maddog wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:The system and the dependency of the citizens corrupts.

“Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.”

“Despotic power is always accompanied by corruption of morality.”

“Authority that does not exist for Liberty is not authority but force.”

“Everybody likes to get as much power as circumstances allow, and nobody will vote for a self-denying ordinance.”


Lord Acton is a bit better informed than any of your politicians of any party.

WTF does any of that have to do with the case I posted on? :dunno:


It has to do with government getting so powerful that it abuses the people it is supposed to serve.

So; nothing

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Re: Cleared after almost 50 years

Postby Maddog » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:22 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:The system and the dependency of the citizens corrupts.

“Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.”

“Despotic power is always accompanied by corruption of morality.”

“Authority that does not exist for Liberty is not authority but force.”

“Everybody likes to get as much power as circumstances allow, and nobody will vote for a self-denying ordinance.”


Lord Acton is a bit better informed than any of your politicians of any party.

WTF does any of that have to do with the case I posted on? :dunno:


It has to do with government getting so powerful that it abuses the people it is supposed to serve.

So; nothing

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I would say these 3 men were abused.
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