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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:40 pm

Cherry de Voured wrote:
Rockstar wrote:It seems to me that you believe that only those regimes can be called "Nazis" who persecute Jews when the facts show that Nazis killed more non-jews than jews during their regime


I'll make a very simple point then: is it okay to refer to China as "Islamists" because they share certain traits when it comes to persecution and genocide? No? Why? Because Islamist has a specific definition, right?


You can call the Chinese whatever you like,,,, ISIS , Nazi whatever floats your boat.



Rockstar wrote:You will have show me if the Tamils or the Bangladeshis or the Yemenis created Nuremberg Type Laws, proposed the victims of their atrocities as sub-human more specifically "tribe of human beings, pure good the Israelis (Oppressor) and a tribe of sub-human beings of pure evil


So, not quite so evil as the Nazis. Gotcha. There's levels of evil when it comes to genocide?


Unless you beleve every genocide should be lumped together and are the same on the scale of atrocities. So for you basically the treatment of Tamils by the Singalese, the treatment of Bangladeshi Hindus by the Easst Pakistani Muslims, the treatment of Jewish people by the Nazis, the treatment of Palestinians by the Israelis are all acts of genocide and they are at same degree of evil. Good to know that.

Rockstar wrote:One could even argue that "Hey we went through a holocaust.. So if we were to do a Holocaust of our own..no one could accuse us of becoming the oppressors when we were oppressed ourselves. The State of Israel carrying out the ethic cleansing of the indigenous population of Palestine was on paper long before Holocaust happened.


Surely the same applies to the various Islamic regimes that regularly and continuously persecute people that don't fit in to their ideology?


If you say so. I would have liked to hear about the specific examples of these Islamic regimes.

Like I said, there's a whole lot of hypocrisy, double-standards and willful ignorance with people who have firmly planted their flag on one side. To me - it's all fucking abhorrent.



There is absolutely nothing hypocritical to be firmly on the side of the Palestinian people going through a fucking genocide. Please stop your gaslighting..I can see right through it. I have personally seen the horrors inflicted on them and I find the people who are against Palestinians to be the scum of the earth and against humanity. I will keep highlighting the crimes committed by the Nazis of today :thumbsup:

PS: You can discuss Islamic regimes Tamils Yemenis Bangladeshis Vietnamese on any other thread...I'll be happy to give my input there.
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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:54 pm

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Rockstar wrote:Israelis are scum....Can't wait for the day it ceases to exist. :shake head:


And there we have it.

Proof if ever we needed it that you're not objecting to what Israel is doing on humanitarian grounds, just on your own ideological grounds. No better than the people you criticise.

You're a self-righteous hypocrite.

This really is just war-porn for you, isn't it? How fucking rancid.


Dafuq?

Do you now have a problem with the word "scum" as well? lol


"The State of Israel" doesn't feature any fucking where in any ideology I follow.

If the Zionists in 1948 had purchased the lands instead of pillaging raping and ethnic cleansing and forced removal of Arabs from the Palestinian lands, I would have happily supported the Israeli state. In fact I would even extend this to today's times... If the Israelis want to bolster the Jewish population say, in West Bank and they would try to buy the homes off the Arabs ( like every fucking where one has to do in the rest of world) I would have absolutely no problem with them doing it. But to forcibly remove someone from their houses ...Can you even fucking contemplate for even one second... What would happen if it was your house or your friends or relatives? And on top of that a fucking Soldier with guns (trigger happy too) stands for the the looter? Can you even imagine how helpless that would feel?

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

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If I wouldn't like a particular atrocity to fall on me, then why I will like that same atrocity to knock on someone else's door
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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:58 pm




@Cherry is it okay with you that Israeli Occupation Forces are compared to ISIS?



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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Cactus Jack » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:32 am

Rockstar wrote:
@Cherry is it okay with you that Israeli Occupation Forces are compared to ISIS?

asking for a friend. :bored:

Can I counter with - would you agree with the following statement?.

The State of Israel does not, has never, and will never, speak for, act on behalf of, or represent Jews outside of the State of Israel in any way.
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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Cherry de Voured » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:31 am

Rockstar wrote:@Cherry is it okay with you that Israeli Occupation Forces are compared to ISIS?


You're either being obtuse, which is fine a but little pathetic, or you genuinely don't understand why the word Nazi in the context of a predominantly Jewish country is really fucked up - in which case, we probably shouldn't be relying on your opinion for anything.

Rockstar wrote:
Dafuq?

Do you now have a problem with the word "scum" as well? lol


When you label an entire country as "scum" and wish it completely out of existence, then yeah. I think that's pretty fucked up.

It's also precisely what people that justify the killing in Gaza do - they point to specific things some Palestinians do (such as Hamas), and then use it as a blanket representation of all Palestinians as if to justify whatever happens to them next - including wishing Palestine completely out of existence. That's also fucked up.

Again, if you can't see the hypocrisy in your own words, how that makes you just the other side of the same fucking disgusting coin as those who criticise, I can't help you.

Rockstar wrote:Unless you beleve every genocide should be lumped together and are the same on the scale of atrocities. So for you basically the treatment of Tamils by the Singalese, the treatment of Bangladeshi Hindus by the Easst Pakistani Muslims, the treatment of Jewish people by the Nazis, the treatment of Palestinians by the Israelis are all acts of genocide and they are at same degree of evil. Good to know that.


Genocide is fucking genocide. Mass murder is mass murder. If you think there are scales and degrees of evil when it comes to that, then you essentially believe some demographics are more deserving of human life than others. There's no moral highground in that.

Rockstar wrote:I would have liked to hear about the specific examples of these Islamic regimes.


You really want to pretend that there aren't fascistic traits and mass persecution in Islamic theocracies? Really? Because that's a whole other level of willful denial right there.

Rockstar wrote:There is absolutely nothing hypocritical to be firmly on the side of the Palestinian people going through a fucking genocide. Please stop your gaslighting..I can see right through it. I have personally seen the horrors inflicted on them and I find the people who are against Palestinians to be the scum of the earth and against humanity. I will keep highlighting the crimes committed by the Nazis of today


There certainly is something hypocritical if you espouse the same beliefs as those you criticise but with a different target. By definition, that's hypocritical.

I'm horrified by the atrocities in Gaza because of the inhumanity and loss of life of just human beings. I was also horrified by the atrocities committed by Hamas for the exact same fucking reason. Nobody deserves to die simply because of where they happen to be born or being part of a demographic that they can't change. It's quite simple when you have this thing called empathy.
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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:23 am

Cherry de Voured wrote:
Rockstar wrote:@Cherry is it okay with you that Israeli Occupation Forces are compared to ISIS?


You're either being obtuse, which is fine a but little pathetic, or you genuinely don't understand why the word Nazi in the context of a predominantly Jewish country is really fucked up - in which case, we probably shouldn't be relying on your opinion for anything.



Don't want to be called a Nazi? Don't behave like one. It's as simple as that.

I do not buy into the Holocaust industry. It is sickening to use the memory of Shoah for land grabbing and political agenda.

Crimes against humanity were committed by the Nazis against the innocent Jewish people and my heart goes out to them. As I am talking to you, I am trying to understand if the Holocaust survivors participated in the Nakba. And if that is the case, then zero fucks given to the ones who did that and I would pray they burn in hell for bringing catastrophe on innocent Arabs living in their lands right alongside the Nazis who committed the Holocaust.








Cherry de Voured wrote:When you label an entire country as "scum" and wish it completely out of existence, then yeah. I think that's pretty fucked up.

It's also precisely what people that justify the killing in Gaza do - they point to specific things some Palestinians do (such as Hamas), and then use it as a blanket representation of all Palestinians as if to justify whatever happens to them next - including wishing Palestine completely out of existence. That's also fucked up.

Again, if you can't see the hypocrisy in your own words, how that makes you just the other side of the same fucking disgusting coin as those who criticise, I can't help you.


Lol. You are trying really hard to twist my words and trying to make out that I am calling for the death of all Israelis. cute

"Israel should cease to exist"

One state solution call it anything....Call it Cherryland for all i care but a country where the Arab refugees can return to their homes and they can co-exist peacefully with the Jews and Christians just like the time before the Nazi State of Israel came into being.





Genocide is fucking genocide. Mass murder is mass murder. If you think there are scales and degrees of evil when it comes to that, then you essentially believe some demographics are more deserving of human life than others. There's no moral highground in that.


Cool story bro. My take from your philosophy is Nazi Treatment of Jews ( Genocide)= Israel treatment of Palestinians (Genocide) = Singalese treatment of Tamils (Genocide)



You really want to pretend that there aren't fascistic traits and mass persecution in Islamic theocracies? Really? Because that's a whole other level of willful denial right there.


Like I said create a new thread somewhere and I will be happy to give my input. You will be surprised at what I actually believe the Islamic regimes to be. :smilin:
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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:37 am

Israeli Cunts have killed two Christian Women who were going to the bathroom in their besieged compound in Gaza. And on top of that, The Goebbels of our time "Mark Regev" tried to spin that it wasn't Israel but Hamas who did it. Love the Archbishop of Westminister's response to that. The Pope has called it TERRORISM :thumbsup:


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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:38 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
Rockstar wrote:
@Cherry is it okay with you that Israeli Occupation Forces are compared to ISIS?

asking for a friend. :bored:

Can I counter with - would you agree with the following statement?.

The State of Israel does not, has never, and will never, speak for, act on behalf of, or represent Jews outside of the State of Israel in any way.


You are preaching to the choir. :NAA:
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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:43 am



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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:32 pm





There is no limit to the lies and propaganda coming out of Israel. :yikes:
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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:42 pm

A 2020 video on how Israel treats palestinians. The Common Era Calender didn't start on October 7th.

Strong strong disclaimer.





One of the worst videos I have seen. The fear in the dying kid's eyes has shocked me to the core. :shake head: :shake head: :shake head: :shake head: :shake head: :shake head:

Extremely extremely extremely strong disclaimer.

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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:42 pm

I hope and pray that the Israeli baby killers would never find peace and may they burn for an eternity. This is painful to watch so please exercise extreme discretion.





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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:06 pm




I don't mean to be crude but not one hostage has come out and said so and so Hamas asshole raped etc... And yet the Pro-Genocide crowd was saying " i feel for the hostages they must be getting raped everyday" It's almost as if they wanted the innocents raped to further fuel their genocidal justifications. :again?:
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Re: Conflict in Israel and Gaza

Postby Rockstar » Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:14 pm



Barbaric cunts. :shake head:
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