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Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:12 pm
by Guest
Major Starbold wrote:In my mind this is a horrific situation the child is in, any decent person would feel the same and NOT troll it..

We are lucky to have the experience of Markey to call upon for real life views, sensible debate should prevail.

My best friend was fostered due to WW2, his life was miserable.

Foster parents are paid exceedingly well which clouds their minds with the amount of dosh they get.


Why do you post these threads in the trolling section of the forum?
Are you stupid?

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:58 pm
by Guest
http://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/08/29/ ... d-abusers/

The Daily Mail and its readers have reacted with fury after a child was placed with a Muslim foster family due to a lack of Christian foster families to take the child in.

Many Mail readers support the papers stance. If no Christian families are available to foster then children should be left in the hands of their abusive Christian parents. Even if those parents have drink, drugs issues or mental health problems that mean they cannot look after their children properly.

It marks a change of tack for the newspaper and it’s readers. Generally they are known for reacting with fury when children die or are harmed at the hands of abusive parents due to the inaction of social services.

Mail reader, Wang Liqin said, “It’s disgraceful. The family made her remove her crucifix. It’s an obvious attempt to turn the country muslim by placing children with muslim foster parents. Social services will be prowling the streets in beaten up white vans abducting children from street corners to turn muslim next.”

It’s a sentiment shared by many Mail readers. Windsor Fraser said, “That child would have been better off with its parents. A decent, Christian family. Everyone knows social services take peoples kids off them for nothing. They’re always in the Mail for acting too quickly. Bit of abuse would do that kid some good. Toughen her up a bit and teach her that life is hard.”

Conservative MP, Kipper Herring, who visits church twice a year, has never read the Bible and calls his local vicar Father boring balls told us. “This is insulting to this countries proud Christian traditions. I’m sure there’s something in the Bible about Christian foster children being placed with Christian foster parents. Probably Leviticus or something. I’m outraged.”
Mail Columnist Sam Timony said, “This is yet another example of PC gone mad, broken Britain. The council should take a long hard look at themselves just like they did when I told them to after they failed to remove that child that died at the hands of its abusive parents a few years ago. Have they learned nothing?

We eat bacon and drink beer in this country. Are muslim parents going to feed this five year old girl bacon? Will they buy this five year old a pint, like her own parents? Is this the future we want for our children?”

owever not everyone is as outraged. 20 year old Carl Isles told us, “I was fostered by Christian parents. The main issue was that I kept asking for evidence of God’s existence to back up their beliefs and they just kept pointing at their Bible. One day I pointed out that there’s more evidence for the existence of Santa. My foster dad told me that had I said that in a muslim country I’d be killed.

I don’t understand the issue really. They’re both the same God. Yawe, Allah, Jesus and Mazda. What’s the point in arguing over it.”

Brexit Minister Cliff Edge has also waded into the controversy, telling the Herald, “This is why we need Brexit. The EU would have said a child should be fostered by any available parents. As soon as we have our sovereignty back we’ll be able to house all children with abusive Christian parents.

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:25 am
by Keyser
Soma's post on this topic in the DS thread are a total disgrace - clearly the welfare of the child is secondary to any (mistakenly) perceived attack on Islam.

They and posters like them do ordinary Muslims no favours at all.

Oh and of course they infest any thread on a terrorist atrocity with their fingers desperately hovering over the alert button. :shake head:

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:03 am
by Guest
Keyser wrote:Soma's post on this topic in the DS thread are a total disgrace - clearly the welfare of the child is secondary to any (mistakenly) perceived attack on Islam.

They and posters like them do ordinary Muslims no favours at all.

Oh and of course they infest any thread on a terrorist atrocity with their fingers desperately hovering over the alert button. :shake head:


And so you bring it back to you.

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:15 am
by Guest
Guest wrote:
Keyser wrote:Soma's post on this topic in the DS thread are a total disgrace - clearly the welfare of the child is secondary to any (mistakenly) perceived attack on Islam.

They and posters like them do ordinary Muslims no favours at all.

Oh and of course they infest any thread on a terrorist atrocity with their fingers desperately hovering over the alert button. :shake head:


And so you bring it back to you.


it's an art form, vam's just the same.

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:34 am
by Guest
Major Starbold wrote:A white five-year-old girl was forced to live in Muslim foster homes where nobody spoke English and her carers took away her Christian cross and encouraged her to learn Arabic, it emerged today.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4r2WPE8oP
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

how terrible and cruel


oh dear oh dear, a bangladeshi born british judge doesn't agree with the 'major's' version of events. what will he do...?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41091300

A Christian girl who was placed with a Muslim foster family should live with a family member, a judge has ruled.

The local authority involved, the London Borough of Tower Hamlets, rejected a report in The Times which said the foster family did not speak English.

It said the girl had been placed with an English-speaking, mixed-race family.

Tower Hamlets Council said it had always intended to place the five-year-old in a relative's permanent care.

The decision over the girl's future care was made by family court judge Khatun Sapnara in London on Tuesday. She is expected to issue an order later.

Despite legal restrictions on reporting the case to protect the child's identity, several newspapers had described it as one in which a Muslim foster family sought to impose its traditions and values upon a vulnerable, Christian child.

Tower Hamlets Council said there had been several "inaccuracies" in the reporting of the case, particularly the claim that the foster family did not speak English, but it was prohibited from providing specific details.

In a statement, it said: "Tower Hamlets Council has the welfare of children at the heart of what we do.

"The decision to choose foster carers for a child is based on a number of factors, including cultural background and proximity to promote contact with the child's family and the child's school in order to give them as much stability as possible.

"We have always been working towards the child being looked after by a family member and we continue to do so."

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:54 pm
by Avon Barksdale
Guest wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:A white five-year-old girl was forced to live in Muslim foster homes where nobody spoke English and her carers took away her Christian cross and encouraged her to learn Arabic, it emerged today.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4r2WPE8oP
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

how terrible and cruel


oh dear oh dear, a bangladeshi born british judge doesn't agree with the 'major's' version of events. what will he do...?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41091300

A Christian girl who was placed with a Muslim foster family should live with a family member, a judge has ruled.

The local authority involved, the London Borough of Tower Hamlets, rejected a report in The Times which said the foster family did not speak English.

It said the girl had been placed with an English-speaking, mixed-race family.

Tower Hamlets Council said it had always intended to place the five-year-old in a relative's permanent care.

The decision over the girl's future care was made by family court judge Khatun Sapnara in London on Tuesday. She is expected to issue an order later.

Despite legal restrictions on reporting the case to protect the child's identity, several newspapers had described it as one in which a Muslim foster family sought to impose its traditions and values upon a vulnerable, Christian child.

Tower Hamlets Council said there had been several "inaccuracies" in the reporting of the case, particularly the claim that the foster family did not speak English, but it was prohibited from providing specific details.

In a statement, it said: "Tower Hamlets Council has the welfare of children at the heart of what we do.

"The decision to choose foster carers for a child is based on a number of factors, including cultural background and proximity to promote contact with the child's family and the child's school in order to give them as much stability as possible.

"We have always been working towards the child being looked after by a family member and we continue to do so."


So it was a temporary placement which was subsequently reviewed in the light of recommendations from Social workers using normal procedures but took longer than was necessary and the papers may have been used as an unwitting tool to get the process fast tracked?

Heads may roll - but probably at The Times.

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:09 pm
by Guest
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Guest wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:A white five-year-old girl was forced to live in Muslim foster homes where nobody spoke English and her carers took away her Christian cross and encouraged her to learn Arabic, it emerged today.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4r2WPE8oP
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

how terrible and cruel


oh dear oh dear, a bangladeshi born british judge doesn't agree with the 'major's' version of events. what will he do...?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41091300

A Christian girl who was placed with a Muslim foster family should live with a family member, a judge has ruled.

The local authority involved, the London Borough of Tower Hamlets, rejected a report in The Times which said the foster family did not speak English.

It said the girl had been placed with an English-speaking, mixed-race family.

Tower Hamlets Council said it had always intended to place the five-year-old in a relative's permanent care.

The decision over the girl's future care was made by family court judge Khatun Sapnara in London on Tuesday. She is expected to issue an order later.

Despite legal restrictions on reporting the case to protect the child's identity, several newspapers had described it as one in which a Muslim foster family sought to impose its traditions and values upon a vulnerable, Christian child.

Tower Hamlets Council said there had been several "inaccuracies" in the reporting of the case, particularly the claim that the foster family did not speak English, but it was prohibited from providing specific details.

In a statement, it said: "Tower Hamlets Council has the welfare of children at the heart of what we do.

"The decision to choose foster carers for a child is based on a number of factors, including cultural background and proximity to promote contact with the child's family and the child's school in order to give them as much stability as possible.

"We have always been working towards the child being looked after by a family member and we continue to do so."


So it was a temporary placement which was subsequently reviewed in the light of recommendations from Social workers using normal procedures but took longer than was necessary and the papers may have been used as an unwitting tool to get the process fast tracked?

Heads may roll - but probably at The Times.


non-english speakers wouldn't pass the fostering panel anyway, but 'major' & his kind didn't let a little fact like that get in the way of truth.

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:35 pm
by Avon Barksdale
Guest wrote:
non-english speakers wouldn't pass the fostering panel anyway, but 'major' & his kind didn't let a little fact like that get in the way of truth.


Yes, there were a number of things which made this story seem a little suspicious in terms of accuracy.

On a side note I think foster carers are supposed to guarantee they will respect the child's religious background and ensure they keep the child exposed to it during the course of the placement. Personally I don't agree with that as a child hasn't chosen the religion but rather it has placed on them by their parents. Therefore I think the duty of carers should be to act in a neutral way when it comes to religion - not not promote any one in particular or on the flip side not to detract either.

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:25 pm
by Guest
IMO I think the original Mother has used the news media hoping to get her child back, and it hasnt worked

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:41 pm
by Lady Murasaki
Guest wrote:IMO I think the original Mother has used the news media hoping to get her child back, and it hasnt worked


Quite resourceful tho, she knows what certain news media and their readers want to get irate about and played a blinder. Maybe now she can try to get her child back by just, you know, being a responsible parent.

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:15 pm
by Avon Barksdale
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:IMO I think the original Mother has used the news media hoping to get her child back, and it hasnt worked


Quite resourceful tho, she knows what certain news media and their readers want to get irate about and played a blinder. Maybe now she can try to get her child back by just, you know, being a responsible parent.


I guess parents have now wised up to the potential power of the media to try and get their own way such as the Charlie Gard case.

It was bound to be an emotive situation though - a kid gets forcibly removed from the biological mother and instead of being placed with a member of the extended family gets placed with foster carers who they believe are completely unfit for the job and the child is clearly distressed.

I'm surprised though that journalists from The Times would get suckered into being an unwitting pawn though. They must have had access to either the reports or the correspondence from the LA (or both) and truly believed that the mother, and more importantly the child, had been poorly treated (otherwise it's a cynical ploy to stir up racial tensions for no good reason.)

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:22 pm
by Lady Murasaki
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:IMO I think the original Mother has used the news media hoping to get her child back, and it hasnt worked


Quite resourceful tho, she knows what certain news media and their readers want to get irate about and played a blinder. Maybe now she can try to get her child back by just, you know, being a responsible parent.


I guess parents have now wised up to the potential power of the media to try and get their own way such as the Charlie Gard case.

It was bound to be an emotive situation though - a kid gets forcibly removed from the biological mother and instead of being placed with a member of the extended family gets placed with foster carers who they believe are completely unfit for the job and the child is clearly distressed.

I'm surprised though that journalists from The Times would get suckered into being an unwitting pawn though. They must have had access to either the reports or the correspondence from the LA (or both) and truly believed that the mother, and more importantly the child, had been poorly treated (otherwise it's a cynical ploy to stir up racial tensions for no good reason.)


Depends on the reporter's and more importantly, the editor's history.
Itsnt it the motive of news outlets to sell their stories?
We all know Muslims sell, heck they keep the Internet forums alive.

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:25 pm
by Rolluplostinspace
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Guest wrote:IMO I think the original Mother has used the news media hoping to get her child back, and it hasnt worked


Quite resourceful tho, she knows what certain news media and their readers want to get irate about and played a blinder. Maybe now she can try to get her child back by just, you know, being a responsible parent.


I guess parents have now wised up to the potential power of the media to try and get their own way such as the Charlie Gard case.

It was bound to be an emotive situation though - a kid gets forcibly removed from the biological mother and instead of being placed with a member of the extended family gets placed with foster carers who they believe are completely unfit for the job and the child is clearly distressed.

I'm surprised though that journalists from The Times would get suckered into being an unwitting pawn though. They must have had access to either the reports or the correspondence from the LA (or both) and truly believed that the mother, and more importantly the child, had been poorly treated (otherwise it's a cynical ploy to stir up racial tensions for no good reason.)


Depends on the reporter's and more importantly, the editor's history.
Itsnt it the motive of news outlets to sell their stories?
We all know Muslims sell, heck they keep the Internet forums alive.

I wonder what Major would do without them.

Re: White 5 years old forced to live with muslims

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:31 pm
by Lady Murasaki
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Avon Barksdale wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Quite resourceful tho, she knows what certain news media and their readers want to get irate about and played a blinder. Maybe now she can try to get her child back by just, you know, being a responsible parent.


I guess parents have now wised up to the potential power of the media to try and get their own way such as the Charlie Gard case.

It was bound to be an emotive situation though - a kid gets forcibly removed from the biological mother and instead of being placed with a member of the extended family gets placed with foster carers who they believe are completely unfit for the job and the child is clearly distressed.

I'm surprised though that journalists from The Times would get suckered into being an unwitting pawn though. They must have had access to either the reports or the correspondence from the LA (or both) and truly believed that the mother, and more importantly the child, had been poorly treated (otherwise it's a cynical ploy to stir up racial tensions for no good reason.)


Depends on the reporter's and more importantly, the editor's history.
Itsnt it the motive of news outlets to sell their stories?
We all know Muslims sell, heck they keep the Internet forums alive.

I wonder what Major would do without them.


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