The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

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The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Trapper John » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:41 am

We often hear this statement/phrase or a version of it, coined by politicians or the media more often than not when an issue arises connected to the invasion of our land by mass legions of foreigners from around the world.

Seeing it used in a thread the other day by arch 5th columnist CannyDC, a Dogs member who quite unashamedly has stated on numerous occasions that he wants to live in a world, this country included, inhabited only by 'coffee coloured people' originating from the four corners of the globe.

So I wondered when this phrase was first uttered and in what context and also whether there were any facts available to back this sweeping statement up.

I lucked out on the origination question, lack of an exact wording and usages in many different formats by equally as many different people, make this an almost impossible task. What I can say is, I doubt it was uttered by anyone with first hand experience of what this supposed 'tolerance' entails and it's effects.

So I looked for examples of what might have given anyone reason to believe this statement was/is a traditional reflection of 'Britishness' as it's often lauded. The best place to start I thought would be back in recorded history, as we're talking about tradition. So I looked for some historical examples of where mass movements of foreigners to our shores occurred, surely I'd find the proof there.

Romans?, Saxons and other Germanic tribes?, Vikings?, Normans? - Nope, no luck there. In fact all of these occupations of our land were met with continued violence and aggression, not a welcome or bit of tolerance to be had.

It was a similar story later in history, when attempts were made by the Spanish and French and much later, by Nazi Germany. I couldn't find any reference to welcoming them with 'Great British tolerance and understanding' either, it seems that the threat of being overwhelmed by foreign invaders has quite the opposite affect, at least that's what history tells us.

Now I've reached a conclusion but I can't put it on this page. You see we have many readers of Dog's threads who can only absorb information in bite sized pieces. I do try to accommodate them by breaking up my posts with paragraphs instead of a block posting and using my own words rather than C&P huge globs of other peoples work.

Unfortunately this isn't always enough, when faced with a post which fills a page, they become disorientated and cannot cope with the enormity of the task facing them, so more often than not they hide their weaknesses and inabilities by posting TL;DR, yet often will still comment on the content – how is that? :dunno:

Anyway, being the helpful and accommodating chap that I am, my conclusion appears on the following page. :thumbsup:
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Trapper John » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:43 am

I think a good bet on when we first heard someone come out with this term would be in the 1950's and the person who used it would have been a politician.

The phrase would have no doubt been used in conjunction with other rhetoric trying to calm and appease a British public uneasy at introduction of Caribbean blacks to our shores. Despite what we are led to believe, what initial mistrust and hostility there was towards these newcomers dissipated relatively quickly and they were accepted by the vast majority of British people.

Of course, politicians are chancers and buoyed up by what they believed was an easy sell they pushed this supposed tolerance further, combined with a liberal smattering of 'national guilt', they allowed far larger numbers of Kenyan and later Ugandan Asians to settle here.

They were on a roll and quickly what was an original trickle of immigrants from the Caribbean became a river of displaced Asians and then a flood coming from other Commonwealth countries.

As we know now, it didn't stop there. After the lies we were fed about joining a 'Common Market' we were then faced with a river, then a torrent of immigrants from European countries many of whom are ex colonials of those countries.

What began as the controlled introduction of a foreign workforce, primarily employed to take up the immediate slack of a population decimated by WW2 has now become an uncontrolled tsunami of countless millions of waifs, strays and the detritus from every country on Earth, putting an unsustainable strain on the services the ordinary indigenous people of this country have paid for and rely on.

So, is there really a 'tradition of welcoming tolerance and understanding' inbuilt in the psyche of the British people? - history tells us no and there never was. In fact the history of Britain is one of fighting off foreign invaders and any 'welcoming' has been done by a minority of leaders and 'tolerance' is ordered and enforced by laws.

It is all spin and lies instigated and perpetuated by politicians who at first were eager to keep the wheels of commerce rolling but latterly because they are absolutely clueless as what to do about this national disgrace and disaster they all helped to create.

I doubt there is one politician who believes this tolerance tripe, if any do, then they are seriously deluded. The only tradition of 'welcoming tolerance and understanding' the British people are supposedly renowned for, is in the minds of those who have benefited from it.

Politicians have never and will never understand the people they are supposed to represent because none of them live our lives day to day, none of them have the same hopes and fears as we do.

Like I've always said, the politicians and liberal elite who have turned our country into the dustbin of the world and diminished the social fund the ordinary indigenous people built up, have plenty of tolerance and understanding for people from other countries and cultures, it is directly related to how far they live apart from them and how little negative impact they have on theirs and their families lives.

If you still think that utopian statement was ever or is relevant today, just go and look at some of the areas where the indigenous British populations once lived, if it were true they would still live there. The fact is they don't, they've been displaced by an ever increasing flood of foreigners with alien cultures because whatever tolerance and understanding they might have had once, disappeared decades ago.

We live in an Island country where an unnaturally high tide started to come in 60 years ago, it's never gone back out, in fact it's still rising and we as a people are doomed to drown.
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Lambert » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:42 pm

Tolerance = mostly propaganda from the government and big business. Can be translated as = please remain quiet while we flood your country with cheap labour that benefits us and not you.

Sadly Europe is becoming a victim of its own success.
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby McAz » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:19 pm

I didn't (and wouldn't) want to live in the shithouse that was the East End of London before our friends from the sub-continent moved in.

I'm delightfully tolerant - I wish them well and I hope they enjoy it.
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Trapper John » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:41 pm

Tolerance can only truly be expressed with free will, being forced to tolerate only serves to drive feelings below the surface or underground where people become disaffected and resentful, it's small wonder that racism and discrimination still exist.

This is a prime example of ultra liberalism in action, force people by law to be tolerant and as is usual with almost all of their attempts at social engineering it's has had the exact opposite affect and massively backfired.

Like I said earlier, it took a few years but the original west Indian immigrants who came here were gradually accepted by the local population, certainly in south London where I lived and where many of them settled. I went to school with many of their children and there was never any problems save those you'd expect in a normal community.

That was until the white liberals began crowing and telling them they were being discriminated against in a variety of ways and suddenly we had a second generation growing up and believing they were 'entitled' ...... now that is something you can say about traditional British people, they dislike intensely people who think they are 'entitled' even more so when the claims have no merit.
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Trapper John » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:42 pm

McAz wrote:I didn't (and wouldn't) want to live in the shithouse that was the East End of London before our friends from the sub-continent moved in.

I'm delightfully tolerant - I wish them well and I hope they enjoy it.


Why is that, because of all the Jews?
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby McAz » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:41 pm

Trapper John wrote:
McAz wrote:I didn't (and wouldn't) want to live in the shithouse that was the East End of London before our friends from the sub-continent moved in.

I'm delightfully tolerant - I wish them well and I hope they enjoy it.


Why is that, because of all the Jews?


I think my tolerance is innate - but the post-war Jews with whom I lived certainly encouraged generosity of spirit. :dunno:
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Red Okktober » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:52 pm

Being 'tolerant' seems to have some kind of weird psychotic effect on liberals, lefties, apologists, and various other assorted weak-minded, lily-livered politically correct do-gooders. It makes them lose all sense of reason, and has become the Holy Grail of liberalism.

it's the modern day version of self-flagellation or wearing a hair shirt.

Advocating mass immigration, letting terrorists, sex pests, murderers etc. in in huge numbers, where common sense must tell them this a bad thing to do. But wait...no...they want to be able to say they were 'tolerant' of these people. Fuck knows why.

The funny thing is, despite craving to be seen as being tolerant, these legions of liberal halfwits, the length and breadth of the country, only seem to tolerate things that are obviously bad for the rest of the country. Otherwise they want to ban, censor, or shut down things that don't fit the liberal ideal. In effect, they are the least tolerant people you could ever meet.
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Stooo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:38 pm

Red Okktober wrote:Being 'tolerant' seems to have some kind of weird psychotic effect on liberals, lefties, apologists, and various other assorted weak-minded, lily-livered politically correct do-gooders. It makes them lose all sense of reason, and has become the Holy Grail of liberalism.

it's the modern day version of self-flagellation or wearing a hair shirt.

Advocating mass immigration, letting terrorists, sex pests, murderers etc. in in huge numbers, where common sense must tell them this a bad thing to do. But wait...no...they want to be able to say they were 'tolerant' of these people. Fuck knows why.

The funny thing is, despite craving to be seen as being tolerant, these legions of liberal halfwits, the length and breadth of the country, only seem to tolerate things that are obviously bad for the rest of the country. Otherwise they want to ban, censor, or shut down things that don't fit the liberal ideal. In effect, they are the least tolerant people you could ever meet.


Why do you have a problem with equality?
What (god forbid) if the donor for the failing piece of granite that you call a heart was a gay, Islamic Nigerian and you had knowledge of it before the op?
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Red Okktober » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:46 pm

Stooo wrote:Why do you have a problem with equality?
What (god forbid) if the donor for the failing piece of granite that you call a heart was a gay, Islamic Nigerian and you had knowledge of it before the op?


It's got nothing to do with equality - do you think it has?

It's about common sense. You can't just let everyone into this country who wants to come here, just so you can be seen as being tolerant. You can't just let the growth of a vile insidious culture (islam) go unchecked, just so you can be seen as being tolerant.

You're pressing the self-destruct button on behalf of everyone else. Because we haven't self-destructed yet, doesn't mean it's ok to carry on tolerating things that are harmful to us.

If you truly believed in equality, you'd be respecting the votes of the people who voted for Brexit and Trump, instead of referring to them as idiots at every opportunity. Like I said, liberals are the least tolerant group of people you could ever meet - 'ban this' 'close this down' 'censor that' etc.
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Stooo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:01 pm

Red Okktober wrote:
Stooo wrote:Why do you have a problem with equality?
What (god forbid) if the donor for the failing piece of granite that you call a heart was a gay, Islamic Nigerian and you had knowledge of it before the op?


It's got nothing to do with equality - do you think it has?

It's about common sense. You can't just let everyone into this country who wants to come here, just so you can be seen as being tolerant. You can't just let the growth of a vile insidious culture (islam) go unchecked, just so you can be seen as being tolerant.

You're pressing the self-destruct button on behalf of everyone else. Because we haven't self-destructed yet, doesn't mean it's ok to carry on tolerating things that are harmful to us.

If you truly believed in equality, you'd be respecting the votes of the people who voted for Brexit and Trump, instead of referring to them as idiots at every opportunity. Like I said, liberals are the least tolerant group of people you could ever meet - 'ban this' 'close this down' 'censor that' etc.


It's got everything to do with equality and some sort of pride bullshit. You and your skin colour have no advantage over any other person and you're finding that difficult to accept.

Take it slowly, read some books.
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Red Okktober » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:24 pm

Stooo wrote:It's got everything to do with equality and some sort of pride bullshit. You and your skin colour have no advantage over any other person and you're finding that difficult to accept.

Take it slowly, read some books.


It's got no more to do with skin colour than it does with equality.

I'd no more want us to be overrun with Australian christians as I would Iraqi muslims.

The difference being, that Australians haven't turned their own country into a violent festering cesspit, and have no reason to flee from it and try and do the same to ours.

So is skin colour a major factor in being tolerant then? Do you only tolerate ethnics? Only you don't seem to be very tolerant of all those whiteys who voted for Brexit and Trump.
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:50 pm

Trapper John wrote:We often hear this statement/phrase or a version of it, coined by politicians or the media more often than not when an issue arises connected to the invasion of our land by mass legions of foreigners from around the world.

Seeing it used in a thread the other day by arch 5th columnist CannyDC, a Dogs member who quite unashamedly has stated on numerous occasions that he wants to live in a world, this country included, inhabited only by 'coffee coloured people' originating from the four corners of the globe.

So I wondered when this phrase was first uttered and in what context and also whether there were any facts available to back this sweeping statement up.

I lucked out on the origination question, lack of an exact wording and usages in many different formats by equally as many different people, make this an almost impossible task. What I can say is, I doubt it was uttered by anyone with first hand experience of what this supposed 'tolerance' entails and it's effects.

So I looked for examples of what might have given anyone reason to believe this statement was/is a traditional reflection of 'Britishness' as it's often lauded. The best place to start I thought would be back in recorded history, as we're talking about tradition. So I looked for some historical examples of where mass movements of foreigners to our shores occurred, surely I'd find the proof there.

Romans?, Saxons and other Germanic tribes?, Vikings?, Normans? - Nope, no luck there. In fact all of these occupations of our land were met with continued violence and aggression, not a welcome or bit of tolerance to be had.

It was a similar story later in history, when attempts were made by the Spanish and French and much later, by Nazi Germany. I couldn't find any reference to welcoming them with 'Great British tolerance and understanding' either, it seems that the threat of being overwhelmed by foreign invaders has quite the opposite affect, at least that's what history tells us.

Now I've reached a conclusion but I can't put it on this page. You see we have many readers of Dog's threads who can only absorb information in bite sized pieces. I do try to accommodate them by breaking up my posts with paragraphs instead of a block posting and using my own words rather than C&P huge globs of other peoples work.

Unfortunately this isn't always enough, when faced with a post which fills a page, they become disorientated and cannot cope with the enormity of the task facing them, so more often than not they hide their weaknesses and inabilities by posting TL;DR, yet often will still comment on the content – how is that? :dunno:

Anyway, being the helpful and accommodating chap that I am, my conclusion appears on the following page. :thumbsup:


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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Stooo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:53 pm

Red Okktober wrote:
Stooo wrote:It's got everything to do with equality and some sort of pride bullshit. You and your skin colour have no advantage over any other person and you're finding that difficult to accept.

Take it slowly, read some books.


It's got no more to do with skin colour than it does with equality.

I'd no more want us to be overrun with Australian christians as I would Iraqi muslims.

The difference being, that Australians haven't turned their own country into a violent festering cesspit, and have no reason to flee from it and try and do the same to ours.

So is skin colour a major factor in being tolerant then? Do you only tolerate ethnics? Only you don't seem to be very tolerant of all those whiteys who voted for Brexit and Trump.


Oh please Red, I was brought up to be polite to people and not to stare. They call it PC now :shake head:
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Re: The Great 'Tradition of British Tolerance'

Postby Guest » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:54 pm

Red Okktober wrote:
Stooo wrote:Why do you have a problem with equality?
What (god forbid) if the donor for the failing piece of granite that you call a heart was a gay, Islamic Nigerian and you had knowledge of it before the op?


It's got nothing to do with equality - do you think it has?

It's about common sense. You can't just let everyone into this country who wants to come here, just so you can be seen as being tolerant. You can't just let the growth of a vile insidious culture (islam) go unchecked, just so you can be seen as being tolerant.

You're pressing the self-destruct button on behalf of everyone else. Because we haven't self-destructed yet, doesn't mean it's ok to carry on tolerating things that are harmful to us.

If you truly believed in equality, you'd be respecting the votes of the people who voted for Brexit and Trump, instead of referring to them as idiots at every opportunity. Like I said, liberals are the least tolerant group of people you could ever meet - 'ban this' 'close this down' 'censor that' etc.


Why don't you show some common sense? :pointlaugh:
It is a fact that they least educated voted for Trump in the USA and in the UK Brexit.
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