Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Trapper John » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:04 am

Lady Murasaki wrote:
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wutang wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Columbus is rolling in his grave.



Fucker should be burning in hell TBF


Why? He was an explorer/ expert navigator. What happened after wasn't his fault.


Unfortunately he and his men carried diseases unknown in the New World and almost everyone they had contact with died sooner or later.

I'll stand corrected but I believe every native on the first Island they made landfall, was dead within 2 months.


It was the common cold or flu wasn't it?


Something like that, not quite sure but could have been a selection of the many horrible things running around medieval Europe at the time
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:55 am

Well it wasn't deliberate.
Unlike those smallpox blankets the Brits used to wipe out Indian tribes.
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Trapper John » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:30 am

Lady Murasaki wrote:Well it wasn't deliberate.
Unlike those smallpox blankets the Brits used to wipe out Indian tribes.


If you want to believe that is true, you're right. I would prefer to believe the less dramatic opinions of scholars who say that it is possible that blankets used in the smallpox hospitals of North America at that time could have been given to native indians and it is said that a junior officer did write to his superiors suggesting just that and was told not to be so ridiculous. More often than not, those blankets would have been burned after use.

There are some big and compelling reasons why this wouldn't have happened though. Firstly, there was no culturing of the disease in those days, the knowledge just wasn't there. So just by passing on blankets used by victims would have been very hit and miss at best with much deterioration due to lengths of exposure to the elements.

Probably more importantly, white Europeans were petrified of the disease, the mere thought of intentionally spreading it would have been anathema to them as it would have more than likely backfired on them and caused an outbreak in their ranks.

There were definitely more deaths from the disease in the native population than the European but most likely because they would never have encountered it before, whereas Europeans had lived with it for centuries.
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:40 am

Convenient though. Wanting someone else's land and just happening to give them diseased blankets knowing they weren't as immune.
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Trapper John » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:50 am

Lady Murasaki wrote:Convenient though. Wanting someone else's land and just happening to give them diseased blankets knowing they weren't as immune.


It's certainly a convenient accusation to make when there is absolutely no proof or way to confirm or deny it. I dunno, these people with agendas. :roll:
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:56 am

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Lady Murasaki wrote:Convenient though. Wanting someone else's land and just happening to give them diseased blankets knowing they weren't as immune.


It's certainly a convenient accusation to make when there is absolutely no proof or way to confirm or deny it. I dunno, these people with agendas. :roll:


It's a commonly held view because it happened. :dafinger:
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Trapper John » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:57 am

Lady Murasaki wrote:Convenient though. Wanting someone else's land and just happening to give them diseased blankets knowing they weren't as immune.


It's also just as convenient as saying the re-emergence of diseases and illnesses we in Britian had thought consigned to the medical waste bins of history is caused by the millions of third world migrants swamping our country. :thumbsup:

This is a commonly held view because it is happening too. :thumbsup:
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:59 am

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Lady Murasaki wrote:Convenient though. Wanting someone else's land and just happening to give them diseased blankets knowing they weren't as immune.


It's also just as convenient as saying the re-emergence of diseases and illnesses we in Britian had thought consigned to the medical waste bins of history is caused by the millions of third world migrants swamping our country. :thumbsup:

This is a commonly held view because it is happening too. :thumbsup:


Swamping eh? :dafinger:
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Trapper John » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:02 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Trapper John wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Convenient though. Wanting someone else's land and just happening to give them diseased blankets knowing they weren't as immune.


It's also just as convenient as saying the re-emergence of diseases and illnesses we in Britian had thought consigned to the medical waste bins of history is caused by the millions of third world migrants swamping our country. :thumbsup:

This is a commonly held view because it is happening too. :thumbsup:


Swamping eh? :dafinger:


Yep, swamping.
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Fletch » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:31 pm

For those who believe what governments or the media say take a look at the Smith-Mundt act and it's repeal.

US Government-Funded Domestic Propaganda Has Officially Hit The Airwaves

The U.S. government's mammoth broadcasting arm has begun the "unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption," John Hudson of Foreign Policy reported on Sunday.

The content arrives with the enactment of the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, sponsored by Rep. Mac Thornberry (R- Texas) and Rep. Adam Smith (D- Wash.), which was inserted into the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).

The reform effectively nullifies the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948, which was amended in 1985 specifically to prohibit U.S. organizations from using information "to influence public opinion in the United States."

The new law enables U.S. government programming such as Voice of America (VoA) — an outlet created in 1942 to promote a positive understanding of the U.S. abroad — t0 broadcast directly to domestic audiences for the first time.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-domes ... 013-7?IR=T

The UK never had a Smith-Mundt act in the first place, it was always permitted to broadcast propaganda.
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Viper » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:40 pm

To misquote an oft used meme...

'Its never your smart successful friends posting the CT stuff'.
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:58 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:Convenient though. Wanting someone else's land and just happening to give them diseased blankets knowing they weren't as immune.

How would these blankets be handled stored transported?
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:09 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Convenient though. Wanting someone else's land and just happening to give them diseased blankets knowing they weren't as immune.

How would these blankets be handled stored transported?


Sainsburys carrier bags, lined with tin foil.

How tf should I know? :mrgreen:
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:10 pm

Trapper John wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Trapper John wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Convenient though. Wanting someone else's land and just happening to give them diseased blankets knowing they weren't as immune.


It's also just as convenient as saying the re-emergence of diseases and illnesses we in Britian had thought consigned to the medical waste bins of history is caused by the millions of third world migrants swamping our country. :thumbsup:

This is a commonly held view because it is happening too. :thumbsup:


Swamping eh? :dafinger:


Yep, swamping.


Solihull was swamped with Christmas shoppers today. :laughing:
The men had a bit of a zombie look about them. :paranoid:
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Re: Why do you use the term Conspiracy theory/ist

Postby Dean » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:16 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Trapper John wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Trapper John wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Convenient though. Wanting someone else's land and just happening to give them diseased blankets knowing they weren't as immune.


It's also just as convenient as saying the re-emergence of diseases and illnesses we in Britian had thought consigned to the medical waste bins of history is caused by the millions of third world migrants swamping our country. :thumbsup:

This is a commonly held view because it is happening too. :thumbsup:


Swamping eh? :dafinger:


Yep, swamping.


Solihull was swamped with Christmas shoppers today. :laughing:
The men had a bit of a zombie look about them. :paranoid:


What you doing up my ends??? I was there yesterday!
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