Rolluplostinspace wrote:Keyser wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:Keyser wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:Yet our hospitals are staffed by lots and lots of Muslim men and women who dress like westerners and behave like westerners and don't give a damn about falling to their knees and facing east half a dozen times a day.
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Are they checking under their cars for bombs after work?
Are they being chased down the streets by ragheads weilding daggers?
Are they living in fear?
No.
I wonder why that is and if our propaganda machine hopes you don't notice.
Ever go in Muslim shops where the owner is an obvious Muslim with the clothes the mussy the lot?
Notice most of them sell Easter eggs Xmas cards and so on.
Are they living in fear of the local Mosque?
I have always made a very clear distinction between ordinary Muslims and extremists.
The vast majority just want get on with their lives in peace
However there is a problem with Jihadists at the moment and if it was Jewish, Hindu, Christian, Buddhist or any one else currently plotting carrying out atrocities here I would feel exactly the same.
But when white westerners brutally start slaughtering millions of their fellow white westerners not a peep.
You salute flags want medals enjoy the bullshit movies.
It's estimated America have slaughtered between 30m and 50 million innocent civilian men women and children since the end of WW2 .... not a peep.
It was for business and Wall st mostly as most of their killing has been .... not a peep.
Talk about double standards and hypocrisy.
What by the way does it have to do with us how Iran live and rule and all the other countries you want to name as long as they aren't threatening us?
Stop patronising me thank you.
I don't salute flags or fall for cheap propaganda either and I know all about that which you have just stated above.
I am no fan of the Yank murder machine either or of the rampant hypocrisy involved and of how they have fucked up the world since WW2.
The youth of Iran could make the country great if only they were allowed.
Afghansistan used to be very progressive decades ago.
However this thread was about one specific subject and that there is a problem with certain aspects of that group in this country atm.
Oh and before anyone chimes in Islam has many varieties and people of every ethnicity - so playing the faux 'racism' card simply does not wash like it would on DS.
The Iranian people are well known for taking to the streets and toppling government officials.
Not sure what you mean when you say if the Iranian youth were allowed?
If millions rise up in this country to topple the established order do you think it will be allowed?
The Iranian youth wouldn't be allowed to establish what they wanted they would have to establish what the Americans want and anything less wouldn't be allowed.
By the way Keys you know very well a good conversation will encompass much more than the original first few lines which lets be honest have been done to the death and run out of steam pretty quickly.
Fair point.
I know all about Iran - but as I see it the problem again is the dead hand of the state in the form of organised religion oppressing the population and (of course) American interference in the region.
No system of government is perfect - however Western democratic countries (especially in Europe, Australia New Zealand etc) are the best the world has to offer at the moment.
I want it to stay that way and on that note I will say good night.