Should we Talk the Talk if we can't Walk the Walk?

[McAz]

Nothing will happen, it's all posturing. I believe the UK probably takes out other spies but we seldom hear about it - one coming to my mind was a woman that "apparently" was killed in a car accident, though we the public will never be privy to what really happened. Even Googling I can't find anything about that incident..

Economic sanctions? Yea, they would withhold gas - we lose. Tories are full of crap.

Russia have done May a favour - anything to deflect from Brexshit and make the floppy bint look tough but without actually doing anything. The mugs fall for it every time.

[jp761]

At least the US, Germany and France are singing from the same hymn sheet as the UK.

[McAz]

At least the US, Germany and France are singing from the same hymn sheet as the UK.

NATO - it's part of the contract.

[jp761]

At least the US, Germany and France are singing from the same hymn sheet as the UK.

NATO - it's part of the contract.

They clearly agree with Britain's assessment of the situation. They wouldn't back them otherwise.

[McAz]

At least the US, Germany and France are singing from the same hymn sheet as the UK.

NATO - it's part of the contract.

They clearly agree with the Britain's assessment of the situation. They wouldn't back them otherwise.

They are our NATO allies - an attack on one is an attack on all. They are bound to agree with our assessment or they break the contract, disagreeing would be unthinkable.

[jp761]

At least the US, Germany and France are singing from the same hymn sheet as the UK.

NATO - it's part of the contract.

They clearly agree with the Britain's assessment of the situation. They wouldn't back them otherwise.

They are our NATO allies - an attack on one is an attack on all. They are bound to agree with our assessment or they break the contract, disagreeing would be unthinkable.

I'm sure they wouldn't just always completely agree come what may.

But hey neither you nor I know what goes on behind the scenes.

[McAz]

At least the US, Germany and France are singing from the same hymn sheet as the UK.

NATO - it's part of the contract.

They clearly agree with the Britain's assessment of the situation. They wouldn't back them otherwise.

They are our NATO allies - an attack on one is an attack on all. They are bound to agree with our assessment or they break the contract, disagreeing would be unthinkable.

I'm sure they wouldn't just always completely agree come what may.

But hey neither you nor I know what goes on behind the scenes.

They are required to agree - or rather, not to disagree.
And I worked for government for decades - I have more than a fair idea of what goes on behind the scenes.

[jp761]

In what capacity McAz?

[McAz]

In what capacity McAz?

Military and civilian. I can't discuss detail but I can say that my time working to and for govt ministers does not fill one with trust or hope.

[Stefan Batak]

Nothing will happen, it's all posturing. I believe the UK probably takes out other spies but we seldom hear about it - one coming to my mind was a woman that "apparently" was killed in a car accident, though we the public will never be privy to what really happened. Even Googling I can't find anything about that incident..

Economic sanctions? Yea, they would withhold gas - we lose. Tories are full of crap.

Russia have done May a favour - anything to deflect from Brexshit and make the floppy bint look tough but without actually doing anything. The mugs fall for it every time.

They will all agree it was the Bulgarians.

[measurer]

Nothing will happen, it's all posturing. I believe the UK probably takes out other spies but we seldom hear about it - one coming to my mind was a woman that "apparently" was killed in a car accident, though we the public will never be privy to what really happened. Even Googling I can't find anything about that incident..

Economic sanctions? Yea, they would withhold gas - we lose. Tories are full of crap.

Russia have done May a favour - anything to deflect from Brexshit and make the floppy bint look tough but without actually doing anything. The mugs fall for it every time.

They will all agree it was the Bulgarians.

They should throw in Kim Jong and it could be interesting...

[Guest]

i don't think it was putin or the russian government.

[Rolluplostinspace]

To identify the sample one has to have a sample or record of the sample to compare it with.
No one in any country has such a sample because if they had they'd be required to report it to The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).
Indeed the OPCW was so sceptical of the viability of “novichoks” that it decided – with US and UK agreement – not to add them nor their alleged precursors to its banned list. In short, the scientific community broadly accepts Mirzayanov was working on “novichoks” but doubts he succeeded.
Britain declares it has identified it and where it came from without offering any evidence.
Britain refuse to submit any sample to the OPCW.
Whole thing is a fairy story by the sounds of it.
Is it maybe a show off job by Porton down to say look what we've produced that the rest of you failed to?

[Lambert]

To identify the sample one has to have a sample or record of the sample to compare it with.
No one in any country has such a sample because if they had they'd be required to report it to The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).
Indeed the OPCW was so sceptical of the viability of “novichoks” that it decided – with US and UK agreement – not to add them nor their alleged precursors to its banned list. In short, the scientific community broadly accepts Mirzayanov was working on “novichoks” but doubts he succeeded.
Britain declares it has identified it and where it came from without offering any evidence.
Britain refuse to submit any sample to the OPCW.
Whole thing is a fairy story by the sounds of it.
Is it maybe a show off job by Porton down to say look what we've produced that the rest of you failed to?

Sorry to burst your conspiracy bubble, but the government have already announced they will be submitting a sample to the OPCW.

[Rolluplostinspace]

To identify the sample one has to have a sample or record of the sample to compare it with.
No one in any country has such a sample because if they had they'd be required to report it to The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW).
Indeed the OPCW was so sceptical of the viability of “novichoks” that it decided – with US and UK agreement – not to add them nor their alleged precursors to its banned list. In short, the scientific community broadly accepts Mirzayanov was working on “novichoks” but doubts he succeeded.
Britain declares it has identified it and where it came from without offering any evidence.
Britain refuse to submit any sample to the OPCW.
Whole thing is a fairy story by the sounds of it.
Is it maybe a show off job by Porton down to say look what we've produced that the rest of you failed to?

Sorry to burst your conspiracy bubble, but the government have already announced they will be submitting a sample to the OPCW.

Let me know when they actually do.
Words are one thing actions another.