Famous twats and arseholes of the British Isles.

[Stooo]

How do you come to that conclusion?

Maybe that's not the right word, a Bureaucracy is actually what you believe in.

I don't support the EU because of the it's "demographic deficit", it's lack of democratic legitimacy.

It was actually the Young European Federalists who first coined that term, Pro-Europeans used to be the ones arguing for the EC/EU to be reformed to address that deficit, and giving the EU Parliament proper law-making powers, whereas Eurosceptics wanted to reduce the Parliament's powers even more.

It has democratic legitimacy as evidenced from the MEP elections which hardly anyone turns up to vote on. Perhaps if the majority of our media concentrated on the very boring but democratic (and by that I don't mean members of the fishing committee who didn't bother to turn up) stuff that actually matters to our benefit rather than the 'up yours Delours' mentality of the last twenty years.

I vote and campaign in every election, can you say the same?

[Ray of Sunshine]

Yes but in the case of the Lib Dems who are they campaigning for?

Seems like they're campaigning of behalf of the EU to me, maybe to people in your neck of the woods too since they seem to have switched to the Conservatives.

[Stooo]

Yes but in the case of the Lib Dems who are they campaigning for?

Seems like they're campaigning of behalf of the EU to me, maybe to people in your neck of the woods too since they seem to have switched to the Conservatives.

The Lib-Dems, it's a separate party.

[Ray of Sunshine]

Yes but in the case of the Lib Dems who are they campaigning for?

Seems like they're campaigning of behalf of the EU to me, maybe to people in your neck of the woods too since they seem to have switched to the Conservatives.

The Lib-Dems, it's a separate party.

So you don't campaign for the Liberal Democrats?

But a different party with a very similar name who you hope will be mistaken for them on the ballot?

[Stooo]

Yes but in the case of the Lib Dems who are they campaigning for?

Seems like they're campaigning of behalf of the EU to me, maybe to people in your neck of the woods too since they seem to have switched to the Conservatives.

The Lib-Dems, it's a separate party.

So you don't campaign for the Liberal Democrats?

But a different party with a very similar name who you hope will be mistaken for them on the ballot?

No, the Lib-Dems, I've got a card and everything...

[Ray of Sunshine]

In which case you've lost me as it's the Liberal Democrats or Lib Dems not the Lib-Dems.

[Stooo]

In which case you've lost me as it's the Liberal Democrats or Lib Dems not the Lib-Dems.

It's the same stuff Ray.

[Ray of Sunshine]

In which case you've lost me as it's the Liberal Democrats or Lib Dems not the Lib-Dems.

It's the same stuff Ray.

Yes but you corrected me, wrongly as it turned out, I didn't correct you previously.

[Stooo]

In which case you've lost me as it's the Liberal Democrats or Lib Dems not the Lib-Dems.

It's the same stuff Ray.

Yes but you corrected me, wrongly as it turned out, I didn't correct you previously.

Cool beans.

[BUDGIE]

Stooo I do hope you're not like that Remainer woman on Twitter who said she managed to win over some poor dumb TV repairman to her cause with her superior intellect.

Your avatar reminds me of Barry Stanton... famous faux Brexiteer... are you trolling??

https://twitter.com/barrystanton61

[Cleopatra]

On topic. Matthew Wright. Piers Morgan. Eamonn Holmes. Janet Street-Porter. Peter Andre. Carol Malone. Prince Phillip.

[Punk]

Well this is not a pro-Brexit site and they say 62%:

https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what ... uenced-eu/

Remain 1 (og Ray) Ray 0

[Ray of Sunshine]

You seem to have missed the own goal.

On topic: People who put their bag on the seat next to them on buses and trains to stop people sitting down next to them.

[BUDGIE]

That's Airbus talking about leaving the UK.

You will say "talking" but even so, were it true, how many more jobs to go?

[Stooo]

That's Airbus talking about leaving the UK.

You will say "talking" but even so, were it true, how many more jobs to go?

Talking means that they've spent millions on R&D and they're showing their hand.