Imran Khan President of Pakistan

A right load of bollocks...

Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby LordRaven » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:48 pm

Fletch wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:
NastyNickers wrote:The taliban originated amongst afghan refugees fleeing the soviets in the 80’s, didn’t it? Funded by the US and the Saudis.

All the fucking meddling and wars and shitty funding and arming.


Correct. The Afghanistan government were on good terms with Russia and the US tried regime change to peel them away from Russia and take control to provide opium for the CIA via Pakistan. It was the usual funding locals as mercenaries which at first was fighting Russia who supported the government. Now it's the US itself controlling Afghanistan, and have for many years, and the opium harvest just continues to rise. Heroin is shipped via ports in Pakistan to the US, use of diplomatic containers being the method. Imran will have his work cut out ending the corruption surrounding that.


Felch old bean why is it you are so wrong?

Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, invasion of Afghanistan in late December 1979 by troops from the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union intervened in support of the Afghan communist government in its conflict with anticommunist Muslim guerrillas during the Afghan War (1978–92) and remained in Afghanistan until mid-February 1989.
In April 1978 Afghanistan’s centrist government, headed by Pres. Mohammad Daud Khan, was overthrown by left-wing military officers led by Nur Mohammad Taraki. Power was thereafter shared by two Marxist-Leninist political groups, the People’s (Khalq) Party and the Banner (Parcham) Party—which had earlier emerged from a single organization, the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan—and had reunited in an uneasy coalition shortly before the coup. The new government, which had little popular support, forged close ties with the Soviet Union, launched ruthless purges of all domestic opposition, and began extensive land and social reforms that were bitterly resented by the devoutly Muslim and largely anticommunist population. Insurgencies arose against the government among both tribal and urban groups, and all of these—known collectively as the mujahideen (Arabic mujāhidūn, “those who engage in jihad”)—were Islamic in orientation.
These uprisings, along with internal fighting and coups within the government between the People’s and Banner factions, prompted the Soviets to invade the country on the night of Dec. 24, 1979, sending in some 30,000 troops and toppling the short-lived presidency of People’s leader Hafizullah Amin. The aim of the Soviet operation was to prop up their new but faltering client state, now headed by Banner leader Babrak Karmal, but Karmal was unable to attain significant popular support. Backed by the United States, the mujahideen rebellion grew, spreading to all parts of the country. The Soviets initially left the suppression of the rebellion to the Afghan army, but the latter was beset by mass desertions and remained largely ineffective throughout the war.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Soviet ... fghanistan

The infighting was going on a long time before the Americans got involved.


FFS Raven :drinktype:

They INVADED you muppet!
The Mujahidin that had previously been fighting the government then started attacking the Russians too.
The Russians occupied the country as Invaders and the Afghan people did not like being occupied and made their feelings know through armed resistance.
Given the Cold War and to stop Soviet expansion the Americans became involved with the help of the Pakistanis.
Did you expect them to sit idly by whilst the Soviets consolidated their position there and continue with their main aim, which was to get access to Indian Ocean ports by continuing south.
You really are one hell of a dullard
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Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby Fletch » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:13 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:
NastyNickers wrote:The taliban originated amongst afghan refugees fleeing the soviets in the 80’s, didn’t it? Funded by the US and the Saudis.

All the fucking meddling and wars and shitty funding and arming.


Correct. The Afghanistan government were on good terms with Russia and the US tried regime change to peel them away from Russia and take control to provide opium for the CIA via Pakistan. It was the usual funding locals as mercenaries which at first was fighting Russia who supported the government. Now it's the US itself controlling Afghanistan, and have for many years, and the opium harvest just continues to rise. Heroin is shipped via ports in Pakistan to the US, use of diplomatic containers being the method. Imran will have his work cut out ending the corruption surrounding that.


Felch old bean why is it you are so wrong?

Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, invasion of Afghanistan in late December 1979 by troops from the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union intervened in support of the Afghan communist government in its conflict with anticommunist Muslim guerrillas during the Afghan War (1978–92) and remained in Afghanistan until mid-February 1989.
In April 1978 Afghanistan’s centrist government, headed by Pres. Mohammad Daud Khan, was overthrown by left-wing military officers led by Nur Mohammad Taraki. Power was thereafter shared by two Marxist-Leninist political groups, the People’s (Khalq) Party and the Banner (Parcham) Party—which had earlier emerged from a single organization, the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan—and had reunited in an uneasy coalition shortly before the coup. The new government, which had little popular support, forged close ties with the Soviet Union, launched ruthless purges of all domestic opposition, and began extensive land and social reforms that were bitterly resented by the devoutly Muslim and largely anticommunist population. Insurgencies arose against the government among both tribal and urban groups, and all of these—known collectively as the mujahideen (Arabic mujāhidūn, “those who engage in jihad”)—were Islamic in orientation.
These uprisings, along with internal fighting and coups within the government between the People’s and Banner factions, prompted the Soviets to invade the country on the night of Dec. 24, 1979, sending in some 30,000 troops and toppling the short-lived presidency of People’s leader Hafizullah Amin. The aim of the Soviet operation was to prop up their new but faltering client state, now headed by Banner leader Babrak Karmal, but Karmal was unable to attain significant popular support. Backed by the United States, the mujahideen rebellion grew, spreading to all parts of the country. The Soviets initially left the suppression of the rebellion to the Afghan army, but the latter was beset by mass desertions and remained largely ineffective throughout the war.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Soviet ... fghanistan

The infighting was going on a long time before the Americans got involved.


FFS Raven :drinktype:

They INVADED you muppet!
The Mujahidin that had previously been fighting the government then started attacking the Russians too.
The Russians occupied the country as Invaders and the Afghan people did not like being occupied and made their feelings know through armed resistance.
Given the Cold War and to stop Soviet expansion the Americans became involved with the help of the Pakistanis.
Did you expect them to sit idly by whilst the Soviets consolidated their position there and continue with their main aim, which was to get access to Indian Ocean ports by continuing south.
You really are one hell of a dullard


Like Russia 'invaded' Syria? :hand:

No wonder they only let you drive a civilian car round in the military. :shake head:
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Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby LordRaven » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:17 pm

Fletch wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Correct. The Afghanistan government were on good terms with Russia and the US tried regime change to peel them away from Russia and take control to provide opium for the CIA via Pakistan. It was the usual funding locals as mercenaries which at first was fighting Russia who supported the government. Now it's the US itself controlling Afghanistan, and have for many years, and the opium harvest just continues to rise. Heroin is shipped via ports in Pakistan to the US, use of diplomatic containers being the method. Imran will have his work cut out ending the corruption surrounding that.


Felch old bean why is it you are so wrong?

Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, invasion of Afghanistan in late December 1979 by troops from the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union intervened in support of the Afghan communist government in its conflict with anticommunist Muslim guerrillas during the Afghan War (1978–92) and remained in Afghanistan until mid-February 1989.
In April 1978 Afghanistan’s centrist government, headed by Pres. Mohammad Daud Khan, was overthrown by left-wing military officers led by Nur Mohammad Taraki. Power was thereafter shared by two Marxist-Leninist political groups, the People’s (Khalq) Party and the Banner (Parcham) Party—which had earlier emerged from a single organization, the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan—and had reunited in an uneasy coalition shortly before the coup. The new government, which had little popular support, forged close ties with the Soviet Union, launched ruthless purges of all domestic opposition, and began extensive land and social reforms that were bitterly resented by the devoutly Muslim and largely anticommunist population. Insurgencies arose against the government among both tribal and urban groups, and all of these—known collectively as the mujahideen (Arabic mujāhidūn, “those who engage in jihad”)—were Islamic in orientation.
These uprisings, along with internal fighting and coups within the government between the People’s and Banner factions, prompted the Soviets to invade the country on the night of Dec. 24, 1979, sending in some 30,000 troops and toppling the short-lived presidency of People’s leader Hafizullah Amin. The aim of the Soviet operation was to prop up their new but faltering client state, now headed by Banner leader Babrak Karmal, but Karmal was unable to attain significant popular support. Backed by the United States, the mujahideen rebellion grew, spreading to all parts of the country. The Soviets initially left the suppression of the rebellion to the Afghan army, but the latter was beset by mass desertions and remained largely ineffective throughout the war.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Soviet ... fghanistan

The infighting was going on a long time before the Americans got involved.


FFS Raven :drinktype:

They INVADED you muppet!
The Mujahidin that had previously been fighting the government then started attacking the Russians too.
The Russians occupied the country as Invaders and the Afghan people did not like being occupied and made their feelings know through armed resistance.
Given the Cold War and to stop Soviet expansion the Americans became involved with the help of the Pakistanis.
Did you expect them to sit idly by whilst the Soviets consolidated their position there and continue with their main aim, which was to get access to Indian Ocean ports by continuing south.
You really are one hell of a dullard


Like Russia 'invaded' Syria? :hand:

No wonder they only let you drive a civilian car round in the military. :shake head:[/quote]It seems you are actually very ill informed on all matters.
Your opinions are like you --worthless! :thumbsup:
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Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:09 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:He'll have to become part of the corruption or be killed I reckon.


He’ll need to make some useful allies. The Chinese maybe.
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Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby Rockstar » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:11 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:He'll have to become part of the corruption or be killed I reckon.


He’ll need to make some useful allies. The Chinese maybe.


China is already on board. CPEC etc


He won't be killed if he has ISI and the Army in his pocket.
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Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:13 pm

Rockstar wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:He'll have to become part of the corruption or be killed I reckon.


He’ll need to make some useful allies. The Chinese maybe.


China is already on board. CPEC etc


He won't be killed if he has ISI and the Army in his pocket.


Ah shrewd move. I reckon successful sports people are well primed for politics.
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Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby Rockstar » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:15 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rockstar wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:He'll have to become part of the corruption or be killed I reckon.


He’ll need to make some useful allies. The Chinese maybe.


China is already on board. CPEC etc


He won't be killed if he has ISI and the Army in his pocket.


Ah shrewd move. I reckon successful sports people are well primed for politics.


Makes a nice change to reality tv actors :whistle:
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Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:17 pm

Rockstar wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rockstar wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:He'll have to become part of the corruption or be killed I reckon.


He’ll need to make some useful allies. The Chinese maybe.


China is already on board. CPEC etc


He won't be killed if he has ISI and the Army in his pocket.


Ah shrewd move. I reckon successful sports people are well primed for politics.


Makes a nice change to reality tv actors :whistle:


It does. At least he seems to be in touch with what’s what and can string a sentence together without looking a complete buffoon.
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Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby Fletch » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:18 pm

Rockstar wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:He'll have to become part of the corruption or be killed I reckon.


He’ll need to make some useful allies. The Chinese maybe.


China is already on board. CPEC etc


He won't be killed if he has ISI and the Army in his pocket.


Parts of ISI are a problem Rocky. 111 group? CIA using them to facilitate the drug trade from Afghanistan?

Imran Awan ring a bell? Pakistani farmers forced to sell their land to/by ISI/CIA/Deep State then murdered? .

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/18/imran ... -pakistan/
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Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby measurer » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:55 pm

This is why I never bother much with politics - everyone has a different story...

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Re: Imran Khan President of Pakistan

Postby 362636 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:00 pm

he is a twat
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