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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Stooo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:41 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:So if the building fails without warning and to avoid people being killed in the streets everyone inside these buildings are collateral damage as the floors pancake on top of each other?


Buildings that collapse with a warning are a planned demolition.

These had planes flying into them and were designed to do a thing if a thing happened.

It happened.
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Cobs » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:42 pm

Stooo wrote:I'm out of here for tonight.

You've finished me on this thread Fletch.

There's no arguing with delusional cunts.
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:46 pm

Stooo you left in a bad mood without one link!!!!

I found one for you ..... How long are skyscrapers built to last?

This means we would expect a typical structure to fail once in every 500 to 1,000 years.

New buildings are not only designed to not fail, but are also designed so that in the event that they do fail, they will do so in a predictable and desirable (or at any rate, the least undesirable) manner. This is done to avoid sudden catastrophic failures. It is desirable that if a building is going to fail, that it fails in a ductile, non-brittle way that allows for occupants to exit before the collapse.

To visualise the difference, imagine a structure suddenly cracking, popping and entire floors falling and pancaking on top of one another – this is a brittle failure and is undesirable. Next, imagine a structure flexing and warping as the building distorts to redistribute loads, before finally giving out – in this scenario, occupants could exit the structure and move a safe distance away before collapse occurs.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 63881.html

These things have been part of the safety issue for fifty years apparently but no buildings have been designed to self demolish into their own footprint and if they had the 911 commission would have been loud and clear about them.
Self imploding designs would kill more people than falling into the street.
The safety measures slow the rate of collapse giving as many people as possible time to get out. This clearly didn't happen with building 7 as it collapsed at freefall speed meaning every joint in I think seventy four structural beams would have to fail at exactly the same time .... only ever happens in a controlled manner.
Just half a dozen not failing out of the hundreds would have prevented freefall and telescoping into itself.
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:49 pm

Cobs wrote:
Stooo wrote:I'm out of here for tonight.

You've finished me on this thread Fletch.

There's no arguing with delusional cunts.


There wasn't, until you showed up...
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:49 pm

Building 7s collapse with the classic kink in the centre of the roofline meaning all the centre structural beams have just all been blown .... or failed at the same time.
Thirty seconds of truth .....
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby NastyNickers » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:52 pm

Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:So if the building fails without warning and to avoid people being killed in the streets everyone inside these buildings are collateral damage as the floors pancake on top of each other?


Buildings that collapse with a warning are a planned demolition.

These had planes flying into them and were designed to do a thing if a thing happened.

It happened.


They were hit pretty high up too. I don’t know why anyone would expect them to fall sideways. :dunno:

There would have been massive structural damage at the point of impact. That weight from the upper floors will have pulverised the floors under it. Hence the pancaking. They weren’t built to absorb such downward forces.
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:54 pm

NastyNickers wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:So if the building fails without warning and to avoid people being killed in the streets everyone inside these buildings are collateral damage as the floors pancake on top of each other?


Buildings that collapse with a warning are a planned demolition.

These had planes flying into them and were designed to do a thing if a thing happened.

It happened.


They were hit pretty high up too. I don’t know why anyone would expect them to fall sideways. :dunno:

There would have been massive structural damage at the point of impact. That weight from the upper floors will have pulverised the floors under it. Hence the pancaking. They weren’t built to absorb such downward forces.


Who said they did? :ooer:

Building 7 is being discussed. See Jack's video.
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:05 pm

Was Isaac Newton a 9/11 “Conspiracy Theorist”?
This article was originally published in September 2011.

Strange isn’t it? To be labelled a 9/11 “conspiracy theorist” you don’t even need to have a theory. It’s enough to express any doubt about the official version of events.

Stranger still, those who consider themselves too wise to entertain such “nonsense” forget that they, too, are conspiracy theorists. They either believe the official conspiracy theory or they have no view. But having no view doesn’t let them off the hook. The 9/11 events had to be caused by a conspiracy of some sort. So, just to acknowledge that 9/11 happened is to be a conspiracy theorist.

So, what’s really going on here? Could it be that those dismissive of alternative views are so short on knowledge and the inclination to acquire it that they have nothing to contribute but ridicule? Could it be that they simply don’t care? Could it be that alternative views are so scary that it’s safer to stifle debate? Could it be simply easier to go with the flow than to risk the discomfort inflicted upon those who doubt the status quo?

My doubt and discomfort began as it happened, while I watched the towers come down on TV.

I’m not a physicist, but I can do simple maths. Simple maths tells me that a building can’t fall at close to free fall speed unless all but the tiniest resistance posed by the structure below has first been removed.

Full article https://www.globalresearch.ca/isaac-new ... st/5688656
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:07 pm

NastyNickers wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:So if the building fails without warning and to avoid people being killed in the streets everyone inside these buildings are collateral damage as the floors pancake on top of each other?


Buildings that collapse with a warning are a planned demolition.

These had planes flying into them and were designed to do a thing if a thing happened.

It happened.


They were hit pretty high up too. I don’t know why anyone would expect them to fall sideways. :dunno:

There would have been massive structural damage at the point of impact. That weight from the upper floors will have pulverised the floors under it. Hence the pancaking. They weren’t built to absorb such downward forces.

Even the 911 commission had to admit the floors didn't pancake or the collapse would have been thud thud thud meaning much slower and is reckoned to have come to a stop about fifty floors tall.
There were no floors above the next floor up as can be clearly seen from the freefall speed which they come down at.
Freefall is not possible without removing stuff from the bottom up.
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:16 pm

Generals admirals CIA FBI politicians refusing to believe the official 911 story .....
No doubt these highly trained highly disciplined people are all crackpot conspiracy theorists yes?

Just scroll down and see the people who have had the bottle to put their names forward for years saying the official explanation doesn't hold water.

Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report
http://patriotsquestion911.com/
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:20 pm

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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:22 pm

Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe who have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day based on solid data and facts -- since 9/11/2001 is the catalyst for many of the events shaping our world today -- and the United States Government does not seem to be very forthcoming with answers or facts.

We do not accept the 9/11 Commission Report -- a Commission admittedly "set up to fail" according to the Chairman himself, nor "hypothesis" as a satisfactory explanation for the continued gross violation(s) of the United States Constitution being committed by Government agencies, and the sacrifice every American has made and continue to make -- some more than others.

We stand with the numerous other growing organizations of Firefighters, Medical Professionals, Lawyers, Scholars, Military Officers, Veterans, Religious and Political Leaders, along side Survivors, family members of the victims -- family members of soldiers who have made the ultimate sacrifice -- including the many Ground Zero workers who are now ill or have passed away, when we ask for a true, new independent investigation into the events of 9/11.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:24 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
NastyNickers wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:So if the building fails without warning and to avoid people being killed in the streets everyone inside these buildings are collateral damage as the floors pancake on top of each other?


Buildings that collapse with a warning are a planned demolition.

These had planes flying into them and were designed to do a thing if a thing happened.

It happened.


They were hit pretty high up too. I don’t know why anyone would expect them to fall sideways. :dunno:

There would have been massive structural damage at the point of impact. That weight from the upper floors will have pulverised the floors under it. Hence the pancaking. They weren’t built to absorb such downward forces.

Even the 911 commission had to admit the floors didn't pancake or the collapse would have been thud thud thud meaning much slower and is reckoned to have come to a stop about fifty floors tall.
There were no floors above the next floor up as can be clearly seen from the freefall speed which they come down at.
Freefall is not possible without removing stuff from the bottom up.


From my earlier link:

Ask yourself: Could the aircraft impacts and jet fuel fires really render the structures so feeble that they offered little more resistance than air? If common sense doesn’t provide the answer, do a little research and you’ll find that it couldn’t. And if it couldn’t, the whole official narrative falls apart as quickly as the buildings.

If, since 2001, you haven’t watched a video of the three towers (yes, three) coming down, do so again. Just watch. Really watch. Use your stopwatch if you like. Do some simple maths (the acceleration of gravity is 9.81 metres per second/per second).

Consider the structures – marvels of architectural engineering. Picture the thousands of tonnes of steel beams and girders that held those buildings up for decades. Watch those thousands of tonnes of steel beams and girders offering next to no resistance as the buildings come down, defying the laws of physics if the official explanation is to be believed – not once, but three times in one day.

There’s more, much more, and the implications are horrific. Just how horrific will be all too obvious when future generations marvel at how easily and eagerly so many were deceived.


https://www.globalresearch.ca/isaac-new ... st/5688656
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:25 pm

Will Skyscrapers Outlast The Pyramids?
https://www.centives.net/S/2016/will-sk ... -pyramids/
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Stooo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:26 pm

NastyNickers wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:So if the building fails without warning and to avoid people being killed in the streets everyone inside these buildings are collateral damage as the floors pancake on top of each other?


Buildings that collapse with a warning are a planned demolition.

These had planes flying into them and were designed to do a thing if a thing happened.

It happened.


They were hit pretty high up too. I don’t know why anyone would expect them to fall sideways. :dunno:

There would have been massive structural damage at the point of impact. That weight from the upper floors will have pulverised the floors under it. Hence the pancaking. They weren’t built to absorb such downward forces.


A lot of force hit them sideways.
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