9/11 - Conspiracies & Crackpots

A right load of bollocks...

Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby calitom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:42 am

my mom's office was a couple blocks from the world trade center. thank God she was really agile back then(before her hips were wrecked by a bad surgeon)-so she got out of there and practically ran to her apartment several blocks north before the air got too bad ..So many people have died from WTC related lung disease.
we called her all day til my uncle finally got hold of her..

WTC conspiracy theorists(mostly right wingers) are real douchebags
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Jon55 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:54 am

calitom wrote:my mom's office was a couple blocks from the world trade center. thank God she was really agile back then(before her hips were wrecked by a bad surgeon)-so she got out of there and practically ran to her apartment several blocks north before the air got too bad ..So many people have died from WTC related lung disease.
we called her all day til my uncle finally got hold of her..

WTC conspiracy theorists(mostly right wingers) are real douchebags


Did you watch the documentary about the falling man? I found it very sad because a lot of people jumped instead of being burnt alive. The position of his body when he fell is the same as the hanged man on the tarot cards.

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This is the meaning of the card - I used to study them years ago.

https://www.keen.com/articles/tarot/hanged-man-tarot-card

This is the documentary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Falling_Man
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby HobbitFeet » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:01 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Why hasn't the built in collapse mechanism triggered and why aren't the people expecting such a thing?

San Francisco high-rise is sinking and leaning




because there is nothing wrong with the structural integrity of the building, it is the ground on which it is built, there is a fix that has been agreed and compensation will be paid to the owners as per a legal agreement between millennium and transbay

I believe the fix involves stabilising the building by drilling new foundation piles to the bedrock


fucking conspiracy theorists, they think they know something other people don't, arrogant narcissists that can't imagine that other people know about it and reject it as bilge


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 075108.htm
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10 ... 0615616170
Does Self-Love or Self-Hate Predict Conspiracy Beliefs? Narcissism, Self-Esteem, and the Endorsement of Conspiracy Theories
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Cobs » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:44 am

You should have never started such a thread.
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby HobbitFeet » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:46 am

Cobs wrote:You should have never started such a thread.



I just wanted people to talk about their memory of that day :bawlin:


I forgot about THEM
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Cobs » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:58 am

HobbitFeet wrote:
Cobs wrote:You should have never started such a thread.



I just wanted people to talk about their memory of that day :bawlin:


I forgot about THEM

I find it strangely personal after all this time.
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby NastyNickers » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:06 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Generals admirals CIA FBI politicians refusing to believe the official 911 story .....
No doubt these highly trained highly disciplined people are all crackpot conspiracy theorists yes?

Just scroll down and see the people who have had the bottle to put their names forward for years saying the official explanation doesn't hold water.

Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement,
and Government Officials Question
the 9/11 Commission Report
http://patriotsquestion911.com/

All you highly trained highly disciplined patriots need a tin hat according to some on here.


Well no. There’s a difference between saying you don’t believe that that is what happened, to believing it was all a government conspiracy.

There were incredible forces involved with bringing down the WTC. It’s hard enough to measure when you have a good idea what went on. It’s hardly surprising that ‘experts’ disagree. (Although that says that it is architects and engineers, unless they all specialise in sky scrapers I wouldn’t necessarily call them experts).
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby HobbitFeet » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:17 am

structural engineering is a highly specialist field within civil engineering, they are like the rock stars of the CE world

I dunno why they bother training and studying though, they should just read this thread - job done :roll:
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby NastyNickers » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:22 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:What do people think that fucking big ball of fire was .... the curtains?
The fuel went up bang on impact.
Even if it hadn't there wasn't enough to do much damage to buildings that size!
The firemen got to the scene of impact and radiod back there were just a few office fires that they could bring under control quickly .... shown by the black smoke .... cool fire ....whit or blue smoke hot fire but no .... black smoke cool fire.


Smoke colour is more indicative of fuel, not heat. Black smoke doesn’t equal cooler fire.
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby .SF. » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:29 am

Jon55 wrote: The position of his body when he fell is the same as the hanged man on the tarot cards.


So - what do you deduce from that?
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Middens » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:48 pm

HobbitFeet wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Why hasn't the built in collapse mechanism triggered and why aren't the people expecting such a thing?

San Francisco high-rise is sinking and leaning




because there is nothing wrong with the structural integrity of the building, it is the ground on which it is built, there is a fix that has been agreed and compensation will be paid to the owners as per a legal agreement between millennium and transbay

I believe the fix involves stabilising the building by drilling new foundation piles to the bedrock


fucking conspiracy theorists, they think they know something other people don't, arrogant narcissists that can't imagine that other people know about it and reject it as bilge


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 075108.htm
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10 ... 0615616170
Does Self-Love or Self-Hate Predict Conspiracy Beliefs? Narcissism, Self-Esteem, and the Endorsement of Conspiracy Theories


Very Trump. He spreads CTs. Stuff about vaccinations and Obama being his favourites. He didn't do any 9/11 ones as he couldn't risk that, but he couldn't just do a normal remembrance ceremony he just had interject himself into it. Making it all about him, what he did, what he saw, what he knows.
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Professor Feng Xiao » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:30 pm

calitom wrote:my mom's office was a couple blocks from the world trade center. thank God she was really agile back then(before her hips were wrecked by a bad surgeon)-so she got out of there and practically ran to her apartment several blocks north before the air got too bad ..So many people have died from WTC related lung disease.
we called her all day til my uncle finally got hold of her..

WTC conspiracy theorists(mostly right wingers) are real douchebags


so what made wtc 7 fall in its own footprint then
it was never hit by a plane and it would be impossible for just a fire to make it fall
unless the steel girders were 50% cardboard you fucking gullible twat
:hand:
and lets not forget the dancing Israelis filming it from a high rise car park in queens
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:09 pm

Guest wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:I came up with this idea a few years ago.
Build a model of the world trade centre from mechano.
Set fire to it throw rocks at it crash things into the buildings and see if you can get every bolt in every joint to all fail at once and watch it telescope into itself.
Film it of course for Youtube and for making history.


I think that it's a bit more complicated than that :ooer:

But the simple method won't work just like the more complicated one couldn't.
Make it as complex as you like it can't be done can it.
Are you going to provide some links to your new conspiracy theories?




It's all to do with ratio's rollup, you can't replicate something that big and expect it to react to forces exerted upon it. And get the same result using a meccano set you utter fucking moron

Not having a go at Stooo for his daft idea of self imploding buildings then?
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:12 pm

HobbitFeet wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Why hasn't the built in collapse mechanism triggered and why aren't the people expecting such a thing?

San Francisco high-rise is sinking and leaning




because there is nothing wrong with the structural integrity of the building, it is the ground on which it is built, there is a fix that has been agreed and compensation will be paid to the owners as per a legal agreement between millennium and transbay

I believe the fix involves stabilising the building by drilling new foundation piles to the bedrock


fucking conspiracy theorists, they think they know something other people don't, arrogant narcissists that can't imagine that other people know about it and reject it as bilge


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 075108.htm
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10 ... 0615616170
Does Self-Love or Self-Hate Predict Conspiracy Beliefs? Narcissism, Self-Esteem, and the Endorsement of Conspiracy Theories

The fucking thing is leaning over.
The foundations are failing.
At what point do you think all these sensors or inbuilt safety mechanisms will implode the building killing everyone inside to save it from falling in the street and killing everyone outside?
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Re: 9/11 - 18 years ago today

Postby Guest » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:12 pm

Professor Feng Xiao wrote:
calitom wrote:my mom's office was a couple blocks from the world trade center. thank God she was really agile back then(before her hips were wrecked by a bad surgeon)-so she got out of there and practically ran to her apartment several blocks north before the air got too bad ..So many people have died from WTC related lung disease.
we called her all day til my uncle finally got hold of her..

WTC conspiracy theorists(mostly right wingers) are real douchebags


so what made wtc 7 fall in its own footprint then
it was never hit by a plane and it would be impossible for just a fire to make it fall
unless the steel girders were 50% cardboard you fucking gullible twat
:hand:
and lets not forget the dancing Israelis filming it from a high rise car park in queens


It didn't fall into it's own footprint, it made a right mess.

It had raging fires inside from top to bottom which were left to burn and a huge damaged side.

It had two of the worlds biggest buildings collapsing right next to it which possibly damaged the foundations.

What's the alternative? Controlled demolition? Why didn't the explosives set off when the fires were raging for hours? How did they get placed there and by who? Can't be just one person, would need a big team. The theory falls flat straight away. It just doesn't make sense.

I mean you don't have to be anyone special to understand that uncontrolled fire in a building with damage to the side of it and maybe weak foundations could be the cause of collapse. It makes more sense than other theories.
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