The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

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The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:32 pm

No-deal Brexit: Documents on food and medicine shortages should be kept secret to avoid scaring public, minister says

Documents warning of food, fuel and medicine shortages after a no-deal Brexit should be kept secret because they will scare people, a government minister says.

Andrea Leadsom, the business secretary, signalled Boris Johnson will defy parliament’s order to release the Operation Yellowhammer dossier – arguing the public was better left in the dark.

(Independent via MSN)


Well, there you have it.

“The worst thing that could happen to me is I could walk out of here and get run over,” she told the BBC’s Breakfast Time programme.

Hmmm, debatable.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:19 pm

McAz wrote:No-deal Brexit: Documents on food and medicine shortages should be kept secret to avoid scaring public, minister says

Documents warning of food, fuel and medicine shortages after a no-deal Brexit should be kept secret because they will scare people, a government minister says.

Andrea Leadsom, the business secretary, signalled Boris Johnson will defy parliament’s order to release the Operation Yellowhammer dossier – arguing the public was better left in the dark.

(Independent via MSN)


Well, there you have it.

“The worst thing that could happen to me is I could walk out of here and get run over,” she told the BBC’s Breakfast Time programme.

Hmmm, debatable.





Just watching Sky News and there was a piece about 21 immigrants being picked up in the English channel trying to get to the UK.
Why do they still want to come to the UK so bad that they leave the EU mainland countries to do so?
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:17 pm

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McAz wrote:No-deal Brexit: Documents on food and medicine shortages should be kept secret to avoid scaring public, minister says

Documents warning of food, fuel and medicine shortages after a no-deal Brexit should be kept secret because they will scare people, a government minister says.

Andrea Leadsom, the business secretary, signalled Boris Johnson will defy parliament’s order to release the Operation Yellowhammer dossier – arguing the public was better left in the dark.

(Independent via MSN)


Well, there you have it.

“The worst thing that could happen to me is I could walk out of here and get run over,” she told the BBC’s Breakfast Time programme.

Hmmm, debatable.


Just watching Sky News and there was a piece about 21 immigrants being picked up in the English channel trying to get to the UK.
Why do they still want to come to the UK so bad that they leave the EU mainland countries to do so?


Petition your MP to keep them - we can use them for food after Brexit....

...every little helps! :thumbsup:
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby xtras1 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:06 pm

When's it going to end :bawlin:
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:19 pm

xtras1 wrote:When's it going to end :bawlin:


When we get to their feet.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Stooo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:24 pm

McAz wrote:No-deal Brexit: Documents on food and medicine shortages should be kept secret to avoid scaring public, minister says

Documents warning of food, fuel and medicine shortages after a no-deal Brexit should be kept secret because they will scare people, a government minister says.

Andrea Leadsom, the business secretary, signalled Boris Johnson will defy parliament’s order to release the Operation Yellowhammer dossier – arguing the public was better left in the dark.

(Independent via MSN)


Well, there you have it.

“The worst thing that could happen to me is I could walk out of here and get run over,” she told the BBC’s Breakfast Time programme.

Hmmm, debatable.


Loathesom is a truly horrible human being, I remember her dead eyes and mirthless smiles the first time that she tried for leader and I remember the second time when she hid in a building in Birdcage Walk rather than coming outside and answering questions from us at SODEM.

Nasty creature...
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:34 pm

It's not really the truth. It's a worst-case scenario prediction. The public should be made aware of it, but the thread title is bullshit.
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Postby Stooo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:36 pm

Guest wrote:It's not really the truth. It's a worst-case scenario prediction. The public should be made aware of it, but the thread title is bullshit.


It's the best case, Black Swan is the worst case.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:52 pm

Just in case less informed people might think Black Swan is hyperbole by Stooo, here's confirmation from the Mail Online:

Mr Gove's committee has full control over Operation Yellowhammer, the codename for No Deal contingency planning, as well as Operation Kingfisher, an emergency support package for British businesses affected by No Deal, which was first revealed by this newspaper in February. The avian code words were drawn at random by a Whitehall computer and they have now been joined by another – Black Swan – for worst-case scenarios.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7345427/Michael-Goves-Brexit-war-Cabinet-draws-secret-plan.html

Note that Black Swan not Yellowhammer refers to worst-case. But of course and as always Boris is lying.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:33 pm

The REAL reason we are running out of vital drugs and it has nothing to do with Brexit: How greedy pharmaceutical wholesalers are stockpiling medicines to drive up prices

Some lifesaving drugs have seen their price increase by as much as 7,000%
Drugs such as migraine pills to hormone replacement therapies are running out
Experts believe wholesalers are creating artificial shortages to increase prices


But over the past 18 months, thousands of NHS patients have been hit by some of the worst drug shortages ever recorded in the UK – affecting everything from migraine pills to hormone-replacement therapy.

Inevitably, Britain’s impending exit from the EU has attracted much of the blame. Increased border checks will, some people predict, interrupt the flow of medicines from Europe. But is Brexit the real reason for the current squeeze on medicines?

According to drug industry insiders and healthcare experts, this is far from the truth. In fact, something far more sinister is at play. An exclusive investigation by The Mail on Sunday has uncovered reports suggesting that drug wholesalers have been deliberately withholding stock. Why? A deeply cynical bid to drive up prices, forcing NHS-funded pharmacies to fork out hundreds of millions while patients face months on end without potentially lifesaving pills.

A senior source at one drug company, who chose to remain anonymous, said: ‘It is not uncommon for wholesalers to withhold supplies of medicines until the NHS agrees to pay a higher price for it. Then they suddenly have unlimited supplies. Pharmacists often complain about it.’ With £17 billion worth of medicines already needed to keep Britain healthy, how can the NHS afford the extra cash?

Increases cost the NHS an extra £315M

When a pharmacy buys medicines from a wholesaler, it is reimbursed by the Government through a system called the Drug Tariff. This sets out exactly how much pharmacists can claim for drugs they have supplied to patients.

If a wholesaler demands more than this amount, the pharmacy can apply for more money. Until the summer of 2017, the average number of monthly requests for extra cash was about 150. By the end of that year, it was close to 3,000 requests a month for nearly 100 different drugs.

As a result, the number of concessions granted by the Government more than trebled.

The NAO said the increase was unprecedented and cost the Health Service an extra £315 million in 2017-18, leaving many local health authorities in the red.

In its report, the NAO said: ‘The margin between wholesalers’ buying and selling prices unexpectedly increased. The Department of Health and Social Care could not fully explain the reasons for the increase in wholesalers’ margins and the NHS will not be able to get back this expenditure.’ It also noted that the increases in prices were drastically greater than those charged by the manufacturer to the wholesaler. And it warned that ‘manipulation of pricing’ and ‘collusion’ between the 2,000 drug suppliers could not be ruled out.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... tages.html

Who would have thought that those nice corporate drug dealers would manipulate things to benefit themselves? :thud:

Not sure how the corporate cheer leaders (remainers) will react but probably some name calling and diversion...
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:41 pm

Fletch wrote:The REAL reason we are running out of vital drugs and it has nothing to do with Brexit: How greedy pharmaceutical wholesalers are stockpiling medicines to drive up prices


Profiting from Brexit - why wouldn't they? :dunno:
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:49 pm

McAz wrote:
Fletch wrote:The REAL reason we are running out of vital drugs and it has nothing to do with Brexit: How greedy pharmaceutical wholesalers are stockpiling medicines to drive up prices


Profiting from Brexit - why wouldn't they? :dunno:


Last year, the National Audit Office revealed shocking price hikes of common generic drugs – some had risen by more than 7,000 per cent in two years. Intriguingly, the report by the NAO found ‘a direct relationship’ between the price increases and medicine shortages.

According to some pharmacists, these shortages miraculously disappear as soon as the NHS has agreed to reimburse them for the eyewatering price.

One pharmacist working in London said: ‘Medicines disappear and then magically reappear once the price has shot up dramatically.’

Even wholesalers themselves admit this to be the case. Rajiv Shah, director at pharmacy wholesalers Sigma Pharmaceuticals, told Chemist + Druggist magazine: ‘Contractors have reported that other wholesalers are stockpiling medicines to drive up the price. Then miraculously when the NHS agrees increased prices… wholesalers [begin] telling them, “Stock is available now.” ’

Pharmacists say they have had to turn patients away because they cannot afford to buy drugs at the prices being charged.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... tages.html

If you're happy with that then fine, just identify the real culprits rather than scaremonger and blame it something that hasn't even happened yet.

Me? I'm not happy about the corporate power under the system imposed on the west for the last 40 years. Each to their own I guess. :dunno:
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:59 pm

The real culprits are the politicians and their supporters who know the consequences of a no-deal Brexit but care more about ideology.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Stooo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:01 pm

A gesture...

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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:04 pm

Stooo wrote:A gesture...


Original edited under Boris - a redaction and the insertion of "worst". :shake head:
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