The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

A right load of bollocks...

Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:08 pm

McAz wrote:The real culprits are the politicians and their supporters who know the consequences of a no-deal Brexit but care more about ideology.


It's fuck all to do with brexit. It's corporate rule under neoliberalism. The same applies to markets and currency trading. Black Wednesday, 2008, no brexit in sight.

Some people need to face up to what they are actually cheer leading.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:13 pm

Fletch wrote:
McAz wrote:The real culprits are the politicians and their supporters who know the consequences of a no-deal Brexit but care more about ideology.


It's fuck all to do with brexit. It's corporate rule under neoliberalism. The same applies to markets and currency trading. Black Wednesday, 2008, no brexit in sight.

Some people need to face up to what they are actually cheer leading.


Black Wednesday provided an opportunity to exploit - it is therefore not fuck all to do with Black Wednesday.
Brexit provides an opportunity to exploit - it is therefore not fuck all to do with Brexit.

Many will suffer, a few will gain. I'm on the side of the many.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Stooo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:17 pm

McAz wrote:
Fletch wrote:
McAz wrote:The real culprits are the politicians and their supporters who know the consequences of a no-deal Brexit but care more about ideology.


It's fuck all to do with brexit. It's corporate rule under neoliberalism. The same applies to markets and currency trading. Black Wednesday, 2008, no brexit in sight.

Some people need to face up to what they are actually cheer leading.


Black Wednesday provided an opportunity to exploit - it is therefore not fuck all to do with Black Wednesday.
Brexit provides an opportunity to exploit - it is therefore not fuck all to do with Brexit.

Many will suffer, a few will gain. I'm on the side of the many.


And that includes Fletch, mad little fucker that he is.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:21 pm

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Guest wrote:It's not really the truth. It's a worst-case scenario prediction. The public should be made aware of it, but the thread title is bullshit.


It's the best case, Black Swan is the worst case.


Why does it say "reasonable worst case planning assumptions" in the title then?
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:24 pm

Why do you both champion corporate rule/dominance whilst knowing full well what it has done to the country and it's people over the last 40 years? :scratch:
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:26 pm

Guest wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Guest wrote:It's not really the truth. It's a worst-case scenario prediction. The public should be made aware of it, but the thread title is bullshit.


It's the best case, Black Swan is the worst case.


Why does it say "reasonable worst case planning assumptions" in the title then?

Inserted on 2 August under Boris. If you could be arsed to read the thread you'd know this. :roll:
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Stooo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:26 pm

Guest wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Guest wrote:It's not really the truth. It's a worst-case scenario prediction. The public should be made aware of it, but the thread title is bullshit.


It's the best case, Black Swan is the worst case.


Why does it say "reasonable worst case planning assumptions" in the title then?


a) Because it's a made up title

b) Because of the word 'reasonable'

People are careful with words because they have consequences. See the interview that I posted with David Allen Green for clarity :smilin:
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Stooo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:27 pm

Fletch wrote:Why do you both champion corporate rule/dominance whilst knowing full well what it has done to the country and it's people over the last 40 years? :scratch:


Because you touch yourself at night.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:29 pm

Fletch wrote:Why do you both champion corporate rule/dominance whilst knowing full well what it has done to the country and it's people over the last 40 years? :scratch:


Corporate rule will continue post no-deal Brexit - American corporations given precedence over European corporations.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Not worth suffering for.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:40 pm

McAz wrote:
Fletch wrote:Why do you both champion corporate rule/dominance whilst knowing full well what it has done to the country and it's people over the last 40 years? :scratch:


Corporate rule will continue post no-deal Brexit - American corporations given precedence over European corporations.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Not worth suffering for.


And you can guarantee that remaining in the EU will prevent US corporates from gaining power and influence here?

Because it hasn't worked so far. But then that is the very basis of neoliberalism in the west. Something JC doesn't stand for and wants to change. Maybe that's why you and stooo don't like him. He's another threat to the corporate dominance.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:53 pm

Fletch wrote:
McAz wrote:
Fletch wrote:Why do you both champion corporate rule/dominance whilst knowing full well what it has done to the country and it's people over the last 40 years? :scratch:


Corporate rule will continue post no-deal Brexit - American corporations given precedence over European corporations.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Not worth suffering for.


And you can guarantee that remaining in the EU will prevent US corporates from gaining power and influence here?

Because it hasn't worked so far. But then that is the very basis of neoliberalism in the west. Something JC doesn't stand for and wants to change. Maybe that's why you and stooo don't like him. He's another threat to the corporate dominance.


No, of course not - but you can't guarantee me and mine a better life by leaving the EU - and nor can Corbyn.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:56 pm

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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:57 pm

McAz wrote:
Fletch wrote:
McAz wrote:
Fletch wrote:Why do you both champion corporate rule/dominance whilst knowing full well what it has done to the country and it's people over the last 40 years? :scratch:


Corporate rule will continue post no-deal Brexit - American corporations given precedence over European corporations.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Not worth suffering for.


And you can guarantee that remaining in the EU will prevent US corporates from gaining power and influence here?

Because it hasn't worked so far. But then that is the very basis of neoliberalism in the west. Something JC doesn't stand for and wants to change. Maybe that's why you and stooo don't like him. He's another threat to the corporate dominance.


No, of course not - but you can't guarantee me and mine a better life by leaving the EU - and nor can Corbyn.


Or by staying.

There are no guarantees in life except death and taxes.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby McAz » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:06 pm

Fletch wrote:
McAz wrote:
Fletch wrote:
McAz wrote:
Fletch wrote:Why do you both champion corporate rule/dominance whilst knowing full well what it has done to the country and it's people over the last 40 years? :scratch:


Corporate rule will continue post no-deal Brexit - American corporations given precedence over European corporations.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

Not worth suffering for.


And you can guarantee that remaining in the EU will prevent US corporates from gaining power and influence here?

Because it hasn't worked so far. But then that is the very basis of neoliberalism in the west. Something JC doesn't stand for and wants to change. Maybe that's why you and stooo don't like him. He's another threat to the corporate dominance.


No, of course not - but you can't guarantee me and mine a better life by leaving the EU - and nor can Corbyn.


Or by staying.

There are no guarantees in life except death and taxes.


Yep - and with death a fucking sight closer than a socialist revolution in the UK I'm opting for internationalism over nationalism.
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Re: The Truth Will Scare the Public says Minister

Postby Fletch » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:13 pm

Globalism, not internationalism Az
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