Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

A right load of bollocks...

Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Stooo » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:06 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
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Rolluplostinspace wrote:Green number plates?
If you can afford an electric car you'll be able to park easier and use bus lanes.
If you can't tough shit.
Our electricity generation system is already under huge strain how the hell is it supposed to cope with millions of electric cars that need charging?
What will the power stations be burning?
A nuke one takes twenty years to construct and come online and we can no longer afford the nuke option.

Wind, wave, hydro (dams), solar, geo-thermal, bio mass etc etc etc

The amount of oil and gas and electricity that go into building wind farms is astronomical!


Better to burn it?
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:07 pm

Stooo wrote:
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Rolluplostinspace wrote:Green number plates?
If you can afford an electric car you'll be able to park easier and use bus lanes.
If you can't tough shit.
Our electricity generation system is already under huge strain how the hell is it supposed to cope with millions of electric cars that need charging?
What will the power stations be burning?
A nuke one takes twenty years to construct and come online and we can no longer afford the nuke option.

Wind, wave, hydro (dams), solar, geo-thermal, bio mass etc etc etc


Batteries...

At the moment need electricity to charge them.
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:10 pm

Demands on the grid are already at worrying levels and people think millions of large batteries can just all be plugged in.
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:12 pm

Any of you seen pictures of the massive highly toxic man made battery production waste lakes?
Can't see one shore from the other.
Bye bye gotta run.
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Stooo » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:15 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
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Rolluplostinspace wrote:Green number plates?
If you can afford an electric car you'll be able to park easier and use bus lanes.
If you can't tough shit.
Our electricity generation system is already under huge strain how the hell is it supposed to cope with millions of electric cars that need charging?
What will the power stations be burning?
A nuke one takes twenty years to construct and come online and we can no longer afford the nuke option.

Wind, wave, hydro (dams), solar, geo-thermal, bio mass etc etc etc


Batteries...

At the moment need electricity to charge them.


Like at low consumption times you mean? It would make the work of the National Grid far simpler.
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:16 pm

The spiralling environmental cost of our lithium battery addiction

Here’s a thoroughly modern riddle: what links the battery in your smartphone with a dead yak floating down a Tibetan river? The answer is lithium – the reactive alkali metal that powers our phones, tablets, laptops and electric cars.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium ... ent-impact
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Stooo » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:21 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:The spiralling environmental cost of our lithium battery addiction

Here’s a thoroughly modern riddle: what links the battery in your smartphone with a dead yak floating down a Tibetan river? The answer is lithium – the reactive alkali metal that powers our phones, tablets, laptops and electric cars.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium ... ent-impact


There are different forms of energy storage genius...

Pumped-storage hydroelectricity (PSH), or pumped hydroelectric energy storage (PHES), is a type of hydroelectric energy storage used by electric power systems for load balancing. The method stores energy in the form of gravitational potential energy of water, pumped from a lower elevation reservoir to a higher elevation. Low-cost surplus off-peak electric power is typically used to run the pumps. During periods of high electrical demand, the stored water is released through turbines to produce electric power. Although the losses of the pumping process makes the plant a net consumer of energy overall, the system increases revenue by selling more electricity during periods of peak demand, when electricity prices are highest.

Pumped-storage hydroelectricity allows energy from intermittent sources (such as solar, wind) and other renewables, or excess electricity from continuous base-load sources (such as coal or nuclear) to be saved for periods of higher demand.[1][2] The reservoirs used with pumped storage are quite small when compared to conventional hydroelectric dams of similar power capacity, and generating periods are often less than half a day.

Pumped storage is the largest-capacity form of grid energy storage available, and, as of 2017, the United States Department of Energy Global Energy Storage Database reports that PSH accounts for over 95% of all active tracked storage installations worldwide, with a total installed nameplate capacity of over 184 GW, of which about 25 GW are in the United States.[3] The round-trip energy efficiency of PSH varies between 70%–80%,[4][5][6][7] with some sources claiming up to 87%.[8] The main disadvantage of PSH is the specialist nature of the site required, needing both geographical height and water availability. Suitable sites are therefore likely to be in hilly or mountainous regions, and potentially in areas of outstanding natural beauty, and therefore there are also social and ecological issues to overcome. Many recently proposed projects, at least in the U.S., avoid highly sensitive or scenic areas, and some propose to take advantage of "brownfield" locations such as disused mines.[9]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-st ... lectricity

Yeah Wiki, I left the references to actual citations just to annoy people...
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Guest » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:18 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:The spiralling environmental cost of our lithium battery addiction

Here’s a thoroughly modern riddle: what links the battery in your smartphone with a dead yak floating down a Tibetan river? The answer is lithium – the reactive alkali metal that powers our phones, tablets, laptops and electric cars.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium ... ent-impact


You might find this a surprising conundrum but there’s a direct link between your last dump and the Big Bang.
Honestly :thumbsup:
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Guest » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:37 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Active volcano discovered beneath Antarctic ice sheet could be contributing to rapidly melting glacier
https://www.independent.co.uk/environme ... 23131.html


What? An active volcano can melt ice? :yikes:

That’s Bjork fucked! :gigglesnshit:
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:08 pm

Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The spiralling environmental cost of our lithium battery addiction

Here’s a thoroughly modern riddle: what links the battery in your smartphone with a dead yak floating down a Tibetan river? The answer is lithium – the reactive alkali metal that powers our phones, tablets, laptops and electric cars.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium ... ent-impact


There are different forms of energy storage genius...

Pumped-storage hydroelectricity (PSH), or pumped hydroelectric energy storage (PHES), is a type of hydroelectric energy storage used by electric power systems for load balancing. The method stores energy in the form of gravitational potential energy of water, pumped from a lower elevation reservoir to a higher elevation. Low-cost surplus off-peak electric power is typically used to run the pumps. During periods of high electrical demand, the stored water is released through turbines to produce electric power. Although the losses of the pumping process makes the plant a net consumer of energy overall, the system increases revenue by selling more electricity during periods of peak demand, when electricity prices are highest.

Pumped-storage hydroelectricity allows energy from intermittent sources (such as solar, wind) and other renewables, or excess electricity from continuous base-load sources (such as coal or nuclear) to be saved for periods of higher demand.[1][2] The reservoirs used with pumped storage are quite small when compared to conventional hydroelectric dams of similar power capacity, and generating periods are often less than half a day.

Pumped storage is the largest-capacity form of grid energy storage available, and, as of 2017, the United States Department of Energy Global Energy Storage Database reports that PSH accounts for over 95% of all active tracked storage installations worldwide, with a total installed nameplate capacity of over 184 GW, of which about 25 GW are in the United States.[3] The round-trip energy efficiency of PSH varies between 70%–80%,[4][5][6][7] with some sources claiming up to 87%.[8] The main disadvantage of PSH is the specialist nature of the site required, needing both geographical height and water availability. Suitable sites are therefore likely to be in hilly or mountainous regions, and potentially in areas of outstanding natural beauty, and therefore there are also social and ecological issues to overcome. Many recently proposed projects, at least in the U.S., avoid highly sensitive or scenic areas, and some propose to take advantage of "brownfield" locations such as disused mines.[9]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-st ... lectricity

Yeah Wiki, I left the references to actual citations just to annoy people...

What?
I think everyone knows that and here in N Wales we have ..... Electric Mountain.
https://www.google.com/search?q=electri ... 20&bih=937

Your point?
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:09 pm

Surge in electric car sales could crash the National Grid by 2040, energy expert warns... just days after outage caused chaos
But Stooo on dogs knows better .... https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/car ... -2040.html
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:15 pm

Guest wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The spiralling environmental cost of our lithium battery addiction

Here’s a thoroughly modern riddle: what links the battery in your smartphone with a dead yak floating down a Tibetan river? The answer is lithium – the reactive alkali metal that powers our phones, tablets, laptops and electric cars.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium ... ent-impact


You might find this a surprising conundrum but there’s a direct link between your last dump and the Big Bang.
Honestly :thumbsup:

Wow!
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:20 pm

Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
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Rolluplostinspace wrote:Green number plates?
If you can afford an electric car you'll be able to park easier and use bus lanes.
If you can't tough shit.
Our electricity generation system is already under huge strain how the hell is it supposed to cope with millions of electric cars that need charging?
What will the power stations be burning?
A nuke one takes twenty years to construct and come online and we can no longer afford the nuke option.

Wind, wave, hydro (dams), solar, geo-thermal, bio mass etc etc etc

The amount of oil and gas and electricity that go into building wind farms is astronomical!


Better to burn it?

Does that comment actually make sense to you?
The wind turbines are consuming shit loads of none renewable energy was the point so as much as I support their manufacture they are producing shit loads of CO2 .... the stuff you worry so much about.
To be honest looking at most of your replies lately I can only come to the conclusion you're doing nothing more than being an awkward cunt.
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Guest » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:37 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Guest wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The spiralling environmental cost of our lithium battery addiction

Here’s a thoroughly modern riddle: what links the battery in your smartphone with a dead yak floating down a Tibetan river? The answer is lithium – the reactive alkali metal that powers our phones, tablets, laptops and electric cars.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium ... ent-impact


You might find this a surprising conundrum but there’s a direct link between your last dump and the Big Bang.
Honestly :thumbsup:

Wow!

Uncanny isn’t it!? It took 13.5 Billion years going, through the formation of early stars and their going supernova, and the resulting debris creating more different types of more complex stars who then went their different but similar ways for the creation of space dust,made up of many elements, which formed an accretion disk and our solar system and planet earth plus you. And you really are shitting stardust, the very stuff you are made of. So please don’t complain about a sore ring because that stuff travelled eons to end up flushed down your pan :pmsl:
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Re: Extinction Rebellion V Commuters

Postby Guest » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:51 pm

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Rolluplostinspace wrote:
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Rolluplostinspace wrote:The spiralling environmental cost of our lithium battery addiction

Here’s a thoroughly modern riddle: what links the battery in your smartphone with a dead yak floating down a Tibetan river? The answer is lithium – the reactive alkali metal that powers our phones, tablets, laptops and electric cars.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithium ... ent-impact


You might find this a surprising conundrum but there’s a direct link between your last dump and the Big Bang.
Honestly :thumbsup:

Wow!

Uncanny isn’t it!? It took 13.5 Billion years going, through the formation of early stars and their going supernova, and the resulting debris creating more different types of more complex stars who then went their different but similar ways for the creation of space dust,made up of many elements, which formed an accretion disk and our solar system and planet earth plus you. And you really are shitting stardust, the very stuff you are made of. So please don’t complain about a sore ring because that stuff travelled eons to end up flushed down your pan :pmsl:

Fuck! Just reading that back and it’s obvious typing on a phone is tough
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