The Climate Change Story.

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Victoria Falls thunders once again after dry season photos shocked tourists
AccuWeather Senior Meteorologist Jim Andrews said the climate of the upper Zambezi River watershed is tropical, seasonal and continental, with "sharply distinct" wet and dry seasons.
Main stream media didn't mention this
According to Zambia Tourism, visiting the falls during the dry season will not provide the expected waterfall experience, as some parts have no water falling at all, and other parts are diminished to a trickle. However, the dry season does have its perks for visitors -- the views of the cliffs.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/severe-w ... tos/720151

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Interesting film for the green people ....

[LordRaven]

Interesting film for the green people ....

Don't you think Michael Moore Burgers Please is just a sensationalist?

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Interesting film for the green people ....

Don't you think Michael Moore Burgers Please is just a sensationalist?

Not according to the scientists professors and engineers in this video.
In making this video he has had to ditch his previous opinions.
Is the source not to your liking?

[Stooo]

Interesting film for the green people ....

Don't you think Michael Moore Burgers Please is just a sensationalist?

Not according to the scientists professors and engineers in this video.
In making this video he has had to ditch his previous opinions.
Is the source not to your liking?

There are problems with this film.

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Interesting film for the green people ....

Don't you think Michael Moore Burgers Please is just a sensationalist?

Not according to the scientists professors and engineers in this video.
In making this video he has had to ditch his previous opinions.
Is the source not to your liking?

There are problems with this film.

This kind of makes it stand out as to why I say it is almost impossible to have a conversation with you.
There's lots of stuff in it I don't agree with.
The main view in this film is the world and us are pretty much fucked and not enough is being done about anything much because no one has much of a clue how to go about any of it without destroying our modern world in the process.
Despite the MSM stance my father grew up in a relatively warm period.
I grew up in a thirty year cold period.
My children are growing up in a warm period.
My grandchildren will probably grow up in cooler times than their parents.
Not enough of anything at all is being done or what is being done isn't working.
Well again in my lifetime I have seen black skies being created by filth being pumped out of thousands of massive mill smokestacks that blackened entire towns to blue summer skies.
The rivers I grew up near were nothing more than dead toxic drains of filth.
People said in the seventies it would take generations to clean out the chemicals and metals that had killed these rivers if it could ever be done at all yet again in my lifetime alone .... those rivers are teeming with life once again.
I have seen high energy use light bulbs replaced in supermarket lighting factory and office lighting street lighting to hugely more efficient lighting solutions.
I live in an area where the water company is non profit and refuses to put fluoride in it.
The wild life is expanding in size and variety.
In the northern polar regions polar bears are flourishing once again as are seals and other life up there.
Single use plastic is now frowned upon and more and more recycled and recyclable stuff is being used.
Not much of that being said in this film sadly.

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Renowned Green Activist Apologises For The Climate Scare


The following is a mea culpa from prominent climate activist and environmental leader Michael Shellenberger, a Time Magazine ‘Hero of the Environment’


On behalf of environmentalists everywhere, I would like to formally apologize for the climate scare we created over the last 30 years. Climate change is happening.

It’s just not the end of the world. It’s not even our most serious environmental problem.


I may seem like a strange person to be saying all of this. I have been a climate activist for 20 years and an environmentalist for 30.

But as an energy expert asked by Congress to provide objective expert testimony, and invited by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to serve as an Expert Reviewer of its next Assessment Report, I feel an obligation to apologize for how badly we environmentalists have misled the public.

Here are some facts few people know:

Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”
The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”
Climate change is not making natural disasters worse
Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003
The amount of land we use for meat — humankind’s biggest use of land — has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska
The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in Australia and California
Carbon emissions have been declining in rich nations for decades and peaked in Britain, Germany, and France in the mid-seventies
Adapting to life below sea level made the Netherlands rich not poor
We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will continue to rise as the world gets hotter
Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to species than climate change
Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels
Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial” agriculture
I know that the above facts will sound like “climate denialism” to many people. But that just shows the power of climate alarmism.

In reality, the above facts come from the best-available scientific studies, including those conducted by or accepted by the IPCC, the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN) and other leading scientific bodies.

Some people will, when they read this imagine that I’m some right-wing anti-environmentalist. I’m not. At 17, I lived in Nicaragua to show solidarity with the Sandinista socialist revolution. At 23 I raised money for Guatemalan women’s cooperatives.

In my early 20s, I lived in the semi-Amazon doing research with small farmers fighting land invasions. At 26 I helped expose poor conditions at Nike factories in Asia.

I became an environmentalist at 16 when I threw a fundraiser for Rainforest Action Network. At 27 I helped save the last unprotected ancient redwoods in California.

In my 30s I advocated renewables and successfully helped persuade the Obama administration to invest $90 billion into them.

Over the last few years, I helped save enough nuclear plants from being replaced by fossil fuels to prevent a sharp increase in emissions

Until last year, I mostly avoided speaking out against the climate scare. Partly that’s because I was embar>>>>>>
https://climatechangedispatch.com/renow ... ate-scare/

A very interesting read.

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Wouldn't it be nice if climate change wasn't a fact? Wouldn't it be horrible if we made our planet less shitty by mistake?

Climate change has always been a fact.
Are you suggesting that CO2 is a pollutant?

Ever tried to breath it?

Temperatures were expected to increase from Wednesday in NSW, rising to the low 40s on the south coast on Saturday and 41C to 43C in the Australian Capital Territory. Western Sydney could experience temperatures of up to 45C.

In Victoria, temperatures are expected to reach 44C to 45C across the north of the state on Friday.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... are_btn_tw

A continent is burning and in Antarctica the Thwaites glacier is melting.

Glaciologists have described Thwaites as the "most important" glacier in the world, the "riskiest" glacier, even the "doomsday" glacier.

It is massive - roughly the size of Britain.

It already accounts for 4% of world sea level rise each year - a huge figure for a single glacier - and satellite data show that it is melting increasingly rapidly.

There is enough water locked up in it to raise world sea level by more than half a metre.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51097309


It seems pretty simple to me, it's getting extreme.

Polytunnel farming is massive all over the world now and CO2 is pumped in to increase crop yield and quality and people work in there day and night... breathing it in.
CO2 makes the heart pump it's why you cup your hands over your mouth and breath in rapidly to stop asthma COPD panic attacks and so on.
CO2 mixed with sunlight and water produces sugars and cellulose.
If you built a massive polytunnel farm next to a coal fired power station the CO2 could go into those tunnels and become sugars CO2 emissions sorted.
It really is that simple.

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Your average two story house is twenty five feet high from doorstep to roofline so four stacked on top of each other makes a hundred feet high.
A major Greenland glacier has been growing a hundred feet high for hundreds of miles each year the last three years and it will be even more this year and what had become open sea is now impassable towering walls of sea ice...not what the MSM and their science correspondents as opposed to scientists tell us.

Major Greenland Glacier Is Growing
Jakobshavn Glacier in western Greenland is notorious for being the world’s fastest-moving glacier. It is also one of the most active, discharging a tremendous amount of ice from the Greenland Ice Sheet into Ilulissat Icefjord and adjacent Disko Bay—with implications for sea level rise. The image above, acquired on June 6, 2019, by the Operational Land Imager (OLI) on Landsat 8, shows a natural-color view of the glacier.

Jakobshavn has spent decades in retreat—that is, until scientists observed an unexpected advance between 2016 and 2017. In addition to growing toward the ocean, the glacier was found to be slowing and thickening. New data collected in March 2019 confirm that the glacier has grown for the third year in a row, and scientists attribute the change to cool ocean waters.

“The third straight year of thickening of Greenland’s biggest glacier supports our conclusion that the ocean is the culprit,” said Josh Willis, an ocean scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and principal investigator of the Oceans Melting Greenland (OMG) mission.

NASA.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145185/major-greenland-glacier-is-growing

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Everything that grows needs CO2.
The good news is CO2 is heavier than the other gasses in the atmosphere so gravity pulls it down easily to where it's needed in the soil and the oceans.
When coming out of any combustion exhaust be it car exhaust or chimney it comes out at the same heat and pressure and weighs the same as all the other gasses but after a few seconds of release it cools and falls no is drawn down by gravity to the earth where it is needed for photosynthesis where it is turned into cellulose and sugar.
Imagine cabbages and trees and strawberries and wheat trying to grab the CO2 if it was miles up in the atmosphere.
Currently the CO2 in our atmosphere is 0.04% of the total gasses of our atmosphere yet your led to believe this changes the jet stream the rain fall the wind etc.
The most powerful greenhouse gas is water vapour. Should we campaign against it?

[Stooo]

Air and separated gases are not the same thing. I've had CO2 leaks in pub cellars and they can be lethal, you need to open all doors and hatches to get it absorbed by the surrounding air. It doesn't just sit there.

What is happening is that CO2 is being absorbed into the actual air rather than lumps of the stuff just hanging around.

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The good news is CO2 is heavier than the other gasses in the atmosphere so gravity pulls it down easily to where it's needed in the soil and the oceans.

There's little difference between concentrations at sea level and concentrations higher in the atmosphere, 395 ppm vs 385 ppm according to this, although you might have something that shows otherwise

[art0hur0moh]

The good news is CO2 is heavier than the other gasses in the atmosphere so gravity pulls it down easily to where it's needed in the soil and the oceans.

There's little difference between concentrations at sea level and concentrations higher in the atmosphere, 395 ppm vs 385 ppm according to this, although you might have something that shows otherwise

water doesn't freeze at 0 degrees celsius! Need to reach about 200 (280? can't be bovered to wiki precise numbers) kelvin... freezing temperature of oxygen has a higher freezing temp than hydrogen, due to thermo dynamics heat is displace from hydrogen to oxygen causing water molecules to freeze. There are only two natural states of matter, vapor or solid. Even stone isn't a pure solid under the influence of gravity, and vapor is pyrite if i recall correctly? floating stones...

carbon would displace to much heat from oxygen causing it to freeze and fall out the stratosphere as snow. Ten days water can remain suspended in the troposphere, four years in the stratosphere before its own mass pulls it from the atmosphere.

Been trying for near a decade to say that without actually saying it, wanted someone to follow the basic scientific principle of atmospheric sciences and climate, making their own discoveries.

Fog in the upper troposphere we call clouds.

[art0hur0moh]

Here Rolly, how much co2 is need for tomatoes to grow to the size of a football in comparable acidic soil of the past? What type of covering do you use for your poly tunnels, and how many do you have? Visited a rose grower in australia who's covering permitted 95-98% of the light to pass through.

I was looking at growing lights a couple of weeks ago. Want to dedicate most of the walls in the house to growing fresh herbs and a few spices.

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and the agw bollocks is related to co2 in the mesosphere. It has nothing to do with tropospheric or stratospheric levels of co2, they are insignificant values. The science is not in yet about mesospheric co2 levels causing significant changes in air, sea or land temperatures. We live in the middle of a water bubble displaced by the mantle of the earth. See the extent of bio diversity within the soil and air and liquid water above the surface of the Earth? What do you think is in the zones above and below that where bacteria, enzymes and rna inhabit?