The Trans Thread #2

[Middens]

Do you feel that this branch of the culture wars is coming to an end in this country? We're now collectively coming to the conclusion in this country that the RW and their divisive politics may not actually be all the sunlit uplands that they said it would and people are far more concerned about household bills in this hand-to-mouth society created by these liars rather than other people's personal business.

It never did have much of an impact with most folk. It may have wound people up but as you say most worry about issues like the NHS or the cost of living.

For the folk who did spend 24/7 on social media posting about it and inserting it into every issue, the Palestine/Israel situation is now taking up the majority of their time. Inserting trans stuff into the Gaza crisis makes you sound a bit batshit like that Katya person did.

[Guest]

Apparently the Scots are decapitating trans people in Glasgow these days.

Do you feel that this branch of the culture wars is coming to an end in this country? We're now collectively coming to the conclusion in this country that the RW and their divisive politics may not actually be all the sunlit uplands that they said it would and people are far more concerned about household bills in this hand-to-mouth society created by these liars rather than other people's personal business.

It's actually more like people have finally come to their senses - or rather, Labour under Starmer has realised that "do women have a penis" should no longer be a question that trips them up.

You also have numerous sporting bodies finally banning men from female sports. Plus the downfall of Sturgeon over a male sex offender in a womans prison.

[Stooo]

Do you feel that this branch of the culture wars is coming to an end in this country? We're now collectively coming to the conclusion in this country that the RW and their divisive politics may not actually be all the sunlit uplands that they said it would and people are far more concerned about household bills in this hand-to-mouth society created by these liars rather than other people's personal business.

It never did have much of an impact with most folk. It may have wound people up but as you say most worry about issues like the NHS or the cost of living.

For the folk who did spend 24/7 on social media posting about it and inserting it into every issue, the Palestine/Israel situation is now taking up the majority of their time. Inserting trans stuff into the Gaza crisis makes you sound a bit batshit like that Katya person did.

It just takes a bit of thought after all.

[Red Okktober]

Do you feel that this branch of the culture wars is coming to an end in this country? We're now collectively coming to the conclusion in this country that the RW and their divisive politics may not actually be all the sunlit uplands that they said it would and people are far more concerned about household bills in this hand-to-mouth society created by these liars rather than other people's personal business.

It doesn't matter what your rationale is - be it the cost of living, wars, or whatever else is going on in society, normal people are never going to agree to the concept of men pretending to be women or mixed sex changing rooms. Sorry to disappoint, but it will have to remain a fantasy of yours.

" I see bacon's gone up 5p this week"

" Better let Brian use the ladies bogs then"

[Guest]

The world went nuts, but there are signs it’s recovering.

[Middens]

The culture war is still rumbling away in America though. They're fighting over the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade at the moment. The right going mad saying it's racist to white people and the left have disrupted it on behalf of Palestine. Oh there's a non binary float too.

[Guest]

The culture war is still rumbling away in America though. They're fighting over the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade at the moment. The right going mad saying it's racist to white people and the left have disrupted it on behalf of Palestine. Oh there's a non binary float too.

It’s never a good idea to try and fix something that was working, the polarisation of society is never a good idea.

[Stooo]

The culture war is still rumbling away in America though. They're fighting over the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade at the moment. The right going mad saying it's racist to white people and the left have disrupted it on behalf of Palestine. Oh there's a non binary float too.

It’s never a good idea to try and fix something that was working, the polarisation of society is never a good idea.

Unless you can milk it in some way. As we are finding out; it only lasts for so long.

[Rolluplostinspace]

The culture war is still rumbling away in America though. They're fighting over the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade at the moment. The right going mad saying it's racist to white people and the left have disrupted it on behalf of Palestine. Oh there's a non binary float too.

It’s never a good idea to try and fix something that was working, the polarisation of society is never a good idea.

Unless you can milk it in some way. As we are finding out; it only lasts for so long.

Come back lordy all is forgiven!

[Stooo]

The culture war is still rumbling away in America though. They're fighting over the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade at the moment. The right going mad saying it's racist to white people and the left have disrupted it on behalf of Palestine. Oh there's a non binary float too.

It’s never a good idea to try and fix something that was working, the polarisation of society is never a good idea.

Unless you can milk it in some way. As we are finding out; it only lasts for so long.

Come back lordy all is forgiven!

What are you going to blame it all on now?

[Rolluplostinspace]

The women and equalities minister defends the guidance, but also claims telling children they are born in the wrong body is ‘harmful’
Teaching children that you can be born in the ‘wrong’ body is harmful. Teachers and carers should be reminded that just because a child does not conform to stereotypes associated with being a girl or a boy, that does not mean they should be put on a path to medical or social transition. While legislation exists that allows adults to go through a process to change their legal sex, children’s legal sex is always the same as their biological sex.

So, we should be wary of those who speak casually about ‘trans children’.

While the article reflects Badenoch’s views, her decision to publish it may also be linked to her desire to neutralise criticism of the guidance (jointly signed off by Badenoch and Keegan) from rightwing Tories. Yesterday Liz Truss, the former PM, said it did not do enough to protect children. And Suella Braverman, the former home secretary, said social transitioning in schools should be banned. She posted these messages on X.

First, it is concerning that the guidance still enables social transitioning to take place in schools. No child is born in the wrong body and gender ideology should have no place in schools.

This serious weakness needs to be addressed so that there is no room for doubt.

— Suella Braverman MP (@SuellaBraverman) December 19, 2023
First, it is concerning that the guidance still enables social transitioning to take place in schools. No child is born in the wrong body and gender ideology should have no place in schools.

This serious weakness needs to be addressed so that there is no room for doubt.

Second, it is disappointing that schools will still be obliged to address gender-questioning children by their preferred pronouns in some circumstances. This should be totally prohibited.

Lastly and more generally, too much discretion is left to individual schools and teachers. Given the many exceptions and caveats throughout, the guidance is open to many different interpretations and loopholes will be easily exploited.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/dec/20/gavin-williamson-boris-johnson-covid-inquiry-schools-closures-junior-doctors-rishi-sunak-keir-starmer-uk-politics-latest?page=with:block-6582d7178f08de6aa1100a9c#:~:text=Teaching%20children%20that%20you%20can,to%20medical%20or%20social%20transition.
Bit of a blow for the wokes bit of common sense at last for Joe Public.

[Guest]

The women and equalities minister defends the guidance, but also claims telling children they are born in the wrong body is ‘harmful’
Teaching children that you can be born in the ‘wrong’ body is harmful. Teachers and carers should be reminded that just because a child does not conform to stereotypes associated with being a girl or a boy, that does not mean they should be put on a path to medical or social transition. While legislation exists that allows adults to go through a process to change their legal sex, children’s legal sex is always the same as their biological sex.

So, we should be wary of those who speak casually about ‘trans children’.

While the article reflects Badenoch’s views, her decision to publish it may also be linked to her desire to neutralise criticism of the guidance (jointly signed off by Badenoch and Keegan) from rightwing Tories. Yesterday Liz Truss, the former PM, said it did not do enough to protect children. And Suella Braverman, the former home secretary, said social transitioning in schools should be banned. She posted these messages on X.

First, it is concerning that the guidance still enables social transitioning to take place in schools. No child is born in the wrong body and gender ideology should have no place in schools.

This serious weakness needs to be addressed so that there is no room for doubt.

— Suella Braverman MP (@SuellaBraverman) December 19, 2023
First, it is concerning that the guidance still enables social transitioning to take place in schools. No child is born in the wrong body and gender ideology should have no place in schools.

This serious weakness needs to be addressed so that there is no room for doubt.

Second, it is disappointing that schools will still be obliged to address gender-questioning children by their preferred pronouns in some circumstances. This should be totally prohibited.

Lastly and more generally, too much discretion is left to individual schools and teachers. Given the many exceptions and caveats throughout, the guidance is open to many different interpretations and loopholes will be easily exploited.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/dec/20/gavin-williamson-boris-johnson-covid-inquiry-schools-closures-junior-doctors-rishi-sunak-keir-starmer-uk-politics-latest?page=with:block-6582d7178f08de6aa1100a9c#:~:text=Teaching%20children%20that%20you%20can,to%20medical%20or%20social%20transition.
Bit of a blow for the wokes bit of common sense at last for Joe Public.

It's hard to tell if your posts are your own words or someone else's that you've copied.

[Rolluplostinspace]

The women and equalities minister defends the guidance, but also claims telling children they are born in the wrong body is ‘harmful’
Teaching children that you can be born in the ‘wrong’ body is harmful. Teachers and carers should be reminded that just because a child does not conform to stereotypes associated with being a girl or a boy, that does not mean they should be put on a path to medical or social transition. While legislation exists that allows adults to go through a process to change their legal sex, children’s legal sex is always the same as their biological sex.

So, we should be wary of those who speak casually about ‘trans children’.

While the article reflects Badenoch’s views, her decision to publish it may also be linked to her desire to neutralise criticism of the guidance (jointly signed off by Badenoch and Keegan) from rightwing Tories. Yesterday Liz Truss, the former PM, said it did not do enough to protect children. And Suella Braverman, the former home secretary, said social transitioning in schools should be banned. She posted these messages on X.

First, it is concerning that the guidance still enables social transitioning to take place in schools. No child is born in the wrong body and gender ideology should have no place in schools.

This serious weakness needs to be addressed so that there is no room for doubt.

— Suella Braverman MP (@SuellaBraverman) December 19, 2023
First, it is concerning that the guidance still enables social transitioning to take place in schools. No child is born in the wrong body and gender ideology should have no place in schools.

This serious weakness needs to be addressed so that there is no room for doubt.

Second, it is disappointing that schools will still be obliged to address gender-questioning children by their preferred pronouns in some circumstances. This should be totally prohibited.

Lastly and more generally, too much discretion is left to individual schools and teachers. Given the many exceptions and caveats throughout, the guidance is open to many different interpretations and loopholes will be easily exploited.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/dec/20/gavin-williamson-boris-johnson-covid-inquiry-schools-closures-junior-doctors-rishi-sunak-keir-starmer-uk-politics-latest?page=with:block-6582d7178f08de6aa1100a9c#:~:text=Teaching%20children%20that%20you%20can,to%20medical%20or%20social%20transition.
Bit of a blow for the wokes bit of common sense at last for Joe Public.

It's hard to tell if your posts are your own words or someone else's that you've copied.

You must be new!
The link shows it's a Guardian piece

[Cactus Jack]

Just to put this out there.

Science tells us there are at least seven different genetic and developmental triggers that affect what we call gender, and what is more if all seven are fully 'male' the person thus afflicted would be so severely autistic they would be functionally unable to communicate.

Which means if you are a man and you think you are able to communicate somewhat coherently at some level you're identifying yourself, in some respects, as either gender neutral or female.

Which is good news for at least one person who identifies as male on this thread.

[Red Okktober]

Which means if you are a man and you think you are able to communicate somewhat coherently at some level you're identifying yourself, in some respects, as either gender neutral or female.

Which is good news for at least one person who identifies as male on this thread.

People have no right to 'identify themselves' in a society where they interact with others - they are what they are, and society, in order to function, needs to recognise them for what they are.

Many of these people who self ID as something else are either mentally ill or perverted sex criminals, and not fit to impose their self ID onto others. Yet you woke lot lap it up as if it were a normal thing to do.