DS and DTV Part 62

[Cobs]

One of my layers has gone broody. Currently on caged 24/7 lockdown.

[Guest]

Paul Jenkins back in jail.

[Zero Gravitas]

Paul Jenkins back in jail.

Oh dear oh dear oh deary me, what a shame eh.

Naaaaaaa!!

[GUEST]

Benjaminge has apologised, sort of, to Marella. Gatling-gob must be sober.

Gard thread. post 7416.

[Fiz]

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2232801/would-you-accept-a-reduction-in-food-standards-in-exchange-for-a-trade-deal-with-the-usa/p1

So, like, there are people who want us to have shitter food

My problems with this "shitter" food argument is that whenever I've been to the US the food is generally great. Obviously if you're buying food from the $1 menu you're not getting great meat

But I challenge anyone to go to a "Chick-Fil-A" and say it's not the best Chicken Sandwich they've ever tasted

Why assume that? I'm not talking about taste, I'm talking about quality, what's added to it and how it's been handled. The two aren't mutually exclusive. The best steak I've had was in a steak house in the US, but I bet that cow was pumped full of shit.

Lol at Chick-Fil-A though, I don't think fast food belongs in this discussion if I'm entirely honest. That's like arguing for healthy food with Skittles.

Eggs in America taste weird though, and they are bleached white, and they have to be chilled, and they have higher salmonella because the process exposes the eggs to bacteria.

The eggs are washed in a chlorine solution, but not bleached white. They just favour hens that lay white eggs. When I was a kid eggs here were white then some twit said Brown was healthier so our favoured hens were ones who laid brown eggs.

We do not wash our eggs here because of the risk, Americans think we are mad to not wash eggs or even keep them in the fridge. They have to keep theirs in a fridge but for us its personal choice. I never put mine in the fridge and they keep for a very long time.

Is that true? I was always under the impression is was the cleaning process. I'll have to look it up.

[Fiz]

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2232801/would-you-accept-a-reduction-in-food-standards-in-exchange-for-a-trade-deal-with-the-usa/p1

So, like, there are people who want us to have shitter food

My problems with this "shitter" food argument is that whenever I've been to the US the food is generally great. Obviously if you're buying food from the $1 menu you're not getting great meat

But I challenge anyone to go to a "Chick-Fil-A" and say it's not the best Chicken Sandwich they've ever tasted

Why assume that? I'm not talking about taste, I'm talking about quality, what's added to it and how it's been handled. The two aren't mutually exclusive. The best steak I've had was in a steak house in the US, but I bet that cow was pumped full of shit.

Lol at Chick-Fil-A though, I don't think fast food belongs in this discussion if I'm entirely honest. That's like arguing for healthy food with Skittles.

Eggs in America taste weird though, and they are bleached white, and they have to be chilled, and they have higher salmonella because the process exposes the eggs to bacteria.

I get mine from Chernobyl.

LOOOOL


That would last you a while tho... hmmm

[Keyser]

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2232801/would-you-accept-a-reduction-in-food-standards-in-exchange-for-a-trade-deal-with-the-usa/p1

So, like, there are people who want us to have shitter food

My problems with this "shitter" food argument is that whenever I've been to the US the food is generally great. Obviously if you're buying food from the $1 menu you're not getting great meat

But I challenge anyone to go to a "Chick-Fil-A" and say it's not the best Chicken Sandwich they've ever tasted

Why assume that? I'm not talking about taste, I'm talking about quality, what's added to it and how it's been handled. The two aren't mutually exclusive. The best steak I've had was in a steak house in the US, but I bet that cow was pumped full of shit.

Lol at Chick-Fil-A though, I don't think fast food belongs in this discussion if I'm entirely honest. That's like arguing for healthy food with Skittles.

Eggs in America taste weird though, and they are bleached white, and they have to be chilled, and they have higher salmonella because the process exposes the eggs to bacteria.

I get mine from Chernobyl.

LOOOOL


That would last you a while tho... hmmm

[Kizzie]

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2232801/would-you-accept-a-reduction-in-food-standards-in-exchange-for-a-trade-deal-with-the-usa/p1

So, like, there are people who want us to have shitter food

My problems with this "shitter" food argument is that whenever I've been to the US the food is generally great. Obviously if you're buying food from the $1 menu you're not getting great meat

But I challenge anyone to go to a "Chick-Fil-A" and say it's not the best Chicken Sandwich they've ever tasted

Why assume that? I'm not talking about taste, I'm talking about quality, what's added to it and how it's been handled. The two aren't mutually exclusive. The best steak I've had was in a steak house in the US, but I bet that cow was pumped full of shit.

Lol at Chick-Fil-A though, I don't think fast food belongs in this discussion if I'm entirely honest. That's like arguing for healthy food with Skittles.

Eggs in America taste weird though, and they are bleached white, and they have to be chilled, and they have higher salmonella because the process exposes the eggs to bacteria.

The eggs are washed in a chlorine solution, but not bleached white. They just favour hens that lay white eggs. When I was a kid eggs here were white then some twit said Brown was healthier so our favoured hens were ones who laid brown eggs.

We do not wash our eggs here because of the risk, Americans think we are mad to not wash eggs or even keep them in the fridge. They have to keep theirs in a fridge but for us its personal choice. I never put mine in the fridge and they keep for a very long time.

Is that true? I was always under the impression is was the cleaning process. I'll have to look it up.

Yes. I buy lots of eggs from the local free range farm. I get a lovely mix of white, brown, bluish eggs, none are washed. the colour depends on the breed of hen.

[Guest]

Seems the children are trying to find the oldest posts and re-awakening them, responding to a thread 15 years old and 10 years after the subject of the reply last posted


https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... t_87163004

[Guest]

Seems to be making a habit of it

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... t_87163063
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... t_87163052
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... t_87163020

[Zero Gravitas]

Seems to be making a habit of it

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... t_87163063
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... t_87163052
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... t_87163020

hotchocolate97 may not have long left in this world by the look of things.

[Zero Gravitas]

I like Steffan_Leach, but he is having a bit of a blitzkrieg on the forum.
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... hread/p159
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... -17#latest

[Guest]

all the trolls have woken up again - how come the "mostly come out at night...mostly"

[NastyNickers]

Bollywood is driving me crackers.

She's just repeating the same shit over and over and over.

The case itself is heartbreaking, but that thread is in a timezone all of its own

Mostly sensible posters and then the odd funny wonder logging in and posting shite.

Its uncannily like the McCann thread, only missing Penny

Yeah I just want to add my stance on it all (because I didn't do that with the McCann shit and I have definitely learnt from that mistake! )
I feel dreadful for the parents. Really, really dreadful. I have always felt that those in the wrong here are the enablers, those giving them hope when none is to be found. They need support, not blind allegiance. Sometimes support comes in the form of preparing you and persuading you to face something unthinkable. I think Connie especially needs someone guiding her, not people to cheer as she spends more time away from her son fighting a pointless battle.

And this battle is pointless. I can barely get my head around why you'd even consider transferring someone on life support like Charlie. My brother was transferred between hospitals (from a generic A&E to a specialised hospital for treatment) whilst on life support, and it took HOURS. There were so many risks, and he had to be stabilised again once reaching the specialist hospital.
When we decided to turn him off, moving him again didn't even cross our minds. We were saying goodbye, we didn't want to add any more stress to that.


I can't help but feel that this is Connies last desperate attempt to avoid facing up the inevitable, not so much to get him home, but to avoid the reality of his death.

My feelings of anger are towards those who gave the false hope. Never to the parents. Someone gave them hope and they clung to it like anyone would have. We have no idea what was said to the parents by the American Dr or the father of the other child.
I do understand why they want him to die at home, my one fear with my sister was that she would die where she felt she had been let down. I'm not saying GOSH let Charlie down but the relationship between GOSH and the parents has broken down. They don't trust them.

I can understand that. But at the same time surely what is best for Charlie should override all the feelings of anger towards GOSH? Sorry to go back to my brother, again, but at the end our concern was only for him and what would be easiest for him. Moving him would have been unquestionable. The sheer amount of machines and wires keeping him going, it was difficult to watch them changing things, never mind moving them.

I really think they need support, gentle words to make them realise that they really don't need any more disruption. It doesn't matter where it happens. It matters only that it's peaceful and full of love.

[Keyser]

Bollywood is driving me crackers.

She's just repeating the same shit over and over and over.

The case itself is heartbreaking, but that thread is in a timezone all of its own

Mostly sensible posters and then the odd funny wonder logging in and posting shite.

Its uncannily like the McCann thread, only missing Penny

Yeah I just want to add my stance on it all (because I didn't do that with the McCann shit and I have definitely learnt from that mistake! )
I feel dreadful for the parents. Really, really dreadful. I have always felt that those in the wrong here are the enablers, those giving them hope when none is to be found. They need support, not blind allegiance. Sometimes support comes in the form of preparing you and persuading you to face something unthinkable. I think Connie especially needs someone guiding her, not people to cheer as she spends more time away from her son fighting a pointless battle.

And this battle is pointless. I can barely get my head around why you'd even consider transferring someone on life support like Charlie. My brother was transferred between hospitals (from a generic A&E to a specialised hospital for treatment) whilst on life support, and it took HOURS. There were so many risks, and he had to be stabilised again once reaching the specialist hospital.
When we decided to turn him off, moving him again didn't even cross our minds. We were saying goodbye, we didn't want to add any more stress to that.


I can't help but feel that this is Connies last desperate attempt to avoid facing up the inevitable, not so much to get him home, but to avoid the reality of his death.

My feelings of anger are towards those who gave the false hope. Never to the parents. Someone gave them hope and they clung to it like anyone would have. We have no idea what was said to the parents by the American Dr or the father of the other child.
I do understand why they want him to die at home, my one fear with my sister was that she would die where she felt she had been let down. I'm not saying GOSH let Charlie down but the relationship between GOSH and the parents has broken down. They don't trust them.

I can understand that. But at the same time surely what is best for Charlie should override all the feelings of anger towards GOSH? Sorry to go back to my brother, again, but at the end our concern was only for him and what would be easiest for him. Moving him would have been unquestionable. The sheer amount of machines and wires keeping him going, it was difficult to watch them changing things, never mind moving them.

I really think they need support, gentle words to make them realise that they really don't need any more disruption. It doesn't matter where it happens. It matters only that it's peaceful and full of love.

Beautifully put.

Night.