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jp761 wrote:

Guest wrote:

jp761 wrote:

Guest wrote:
I'd ban his ass just for being him and as offensive has his opinion on that thread is I didn't see anything jail worthy.

What you do Jippy?

Haha funny.

Someone is having a good cry right now that's what I did.

You're the one in jail.

It's often not about guilt on DS! That's been proven time and time again, by many a poster.

What was it for?

Guest wrote:I often find it annoying when people stay quiet for so long, although it is understandable if someone was raped. But if someone receives inappropriate unwanted touches/gropes, they should speak-out straight away. People like Weinstein say it is what they are used to, there is an audio clip of him saying exactly this, I think it's fair to say this is because some women have let people like him get used to it, by not saying anything. Attitudes such as ahhh it's just Weinstein, it's just him, wont do anyone any favours. I'd bet that some females did have that kind of attitude at one point. Like I say, it's not the way to go.

Looks like victims blaming to me. Or haven't I read it properly?

Doomlord2 wrote:

Guest wrote:

jp761 wrote:

Guest wrote:
I'd ban his ass just for being him and as offensive has his opinion on that thread is I didn't see anything jail worthy.

What you do Jippy?

Haha funny.

Someone is having a good cry right now that's what I did.

You're the one in jail.

A good news story.
I can't see why a person who sends creepy PM's has been jailed for their input on a thread about sex pests.

jp761 wrote:

Guest wrote:I often find it annoying when people stay quiet for so long, although it is understandable if someone was raped. But if someone receives inappropriate unwanted touches/gropes, they should speak-out straight away. People like Weinstein say it is what they are used to, there is an audio clip of him saying exactly this, I think it's fair to say this is because some women have let people like him get used to it, by not saying anything. Attitudes such as ahhh it's just Weinstein, it's just him, wont do anyone any favours. I'd bet that some females did have that kind of attitude at one point. Like I say, it's not the way to go.

Looks like victims blaming to me. Or haven't I read it properly?

You actually haven't. Go read my other recent posts as well. Be a good fellow.

Guest wrote:penelope_smith proving she is a cunt in that Weinstein thread;.

jp761 wrote:

Guest wrote:I often find it annoying when people stay quiet for so long, although it is understandable if someone was raped. But if someone receives inappropriate unwanted touches/gropes, they should speak-out straight away. People like Weinstein say it is what they are used to, there is an audio clip of him saying exactly this, I think it's fair to say this is because some women have let people like him get used to it, by not saying anything. Attitudes such as ahhh it's just Weinstein, it's just him, wont do anyone any favours. I'd bet that some females did have that kind of attitude at one point. Like I say, it's not the way to go.

Looks like victims blaming to me. Or haven't I read it properly?

You actually haven't. Go read my other recent posts as well. Be a good fellow.

Guest wrote:

Guest wrote:penelope_smith proving she is a cunt in that Weinstein thread;.

No surprise there then.

And so is palmav!olet. There's something very familiar about them, I wonder who they were in a past life.

jp761 wrote:No I've actually been advocating different things that need to be discussed. Obviously I had to outline one of these things in order to discuss it.

The fact is if enough people let tw*** like Weinstein get away with unwanted groping time and time again... And they didn't say anything to him at the time! It's possible a guy will think it's fine. Him saying "it's what he's used to", says a lot.

Sure a guy does have to be a bit of a dick in the first place, to believe it's fine. But in my view, these things still need discussing. Can't you follow this, this is what I've
been discussing.

Also look at the jokes made about him at award ceremonies for years, 'men' and 'women' laughing in the audience. What a shit example that obviously sets. People have to always try and speak-out straight away when these guys take liberties. As I've said I'm not referring to rape, everyone knows why people may not speak-out straight away when it comes to rape.

NastyNickers wrote:

jp761 wrote:No I've actually been advocating different things that need to be discussed. Obviously I had to outline one of these things in order to discuss it.

The fact is if enough people let tw*** like Weinstein get away with unwanted groping time and time again... And they didn't say anything to him at the time! It's possible a guy will think it's fine. Him saying "it's what he's used to", says a lot.

Sure a guy does have to be a bit of a dick in the first place, to believe it's fine. But in my view, these things still need discussing. Can't you follow this, this is what I've
been discussing.

Also look at the jokes made about him at award ceremonies for years, 'men' and 'women' laughing in the audience. What a shit example that obviously sets. People have to always try and speak-out straight away when these guys take liberties. As I've said I'm not referring to rape, everyone knows why people may not speak-out straight away when it comes to rape.

I think your underestimating the impact that groping can have. And the predicament these women were in when it happened.

By saying that the women let him do it, and that's why it continued, you're effectively victim blaming.

If you're in a position of power, a boss or an interviewer, or a coworker, you should be nothing but professional. He shouldn't have done what he did. It is his fault. It's not the fault of those who didn't speak up, and they shouldn't be blamed for not speaking up.

It does need discussing. And it does need to be more transparent. But the victims aren't to blame for not speaking up, the culture surrounding rape, assault and groping is to blame. It is that that put these women in the position where they couldn't speak up.

Guest wrote:Jp talking about women is ironic. Kinda like when Micky was doing his Swiss Toni act.

Feline wrote:Some very crass and uninformed opinions on the Hollywood sexual abuse allegations thread.

Vam wrote:

Guest wrote:

Guest wrote:penelope_smith proving she is a cunt in that Weinstein thread;.

No surprise there then.

And so is palmav!olet. There's something very familiar about them, I wonder who they were in a past life.

Nes?

*cue the onslaught*

Guest wrote:

NastyNickers wrote:

jp761 wrote:No I've actually been advocating different things that need to be discussed. Obviously I had to outline one of these things in order to discuss it.

The fact is if enough people let tw*** like Weinstein get away with unwanted groping time and time again... And they didn't say anything to him at the time! It's possible a guy will think it's fine. Him saying "it's what he's used to", says a lot.

Sure a guy does have to be a bit of a dick in the first place, to believe it's fine. But in my view, these things still need discussing. Can't you follow this, this is what I've
been discussing.

Also look at the jokes made about him at award ceremonies for years, 'men' and 'women' laughing in the audience. What a shit example that obviously sets. People have to always try and speak-out straight away when these guys take liberties. As I've said I'm not referring to rape, everyone knows why people may not speak-out straight away when it comes to rape.

I think your underestimating the impact that groping can have. And the predicament these women were in when it happened.

By saying that the women let him do it, and that's why it continued, you're effectively victim blaming.

If you're in a position of power, a boss or an interviewer, or a coworker, you should be nothing but professional. He shouldn't have done what he did. It is his fault. It's not the fault of those who didn't speak up, and they shouldn't be blamed for not speaking up.

It does need discussing. And it does need to be more transparent. But the victims aren't to blame for not speaking up, the culture surrounding rape, assault and groping is to blame. It is that that put these women in the position where they couldn't speak up.

Piss off with the 'victim blaming'. Even the thickest biimbo knows to say 'no' if a man asks you to give him a massage.

Boundaries are immediately broken and invite worse behaviour. As if the cheat of thinking he could ask wasn't enough.

And then there was the oral sex. Perfect opportunity to poke his eye out with a stiletto.