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Re: DVLA

Postby Grafenwalder » Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:59 pm

Maddog wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:80% in total. You'd not last five minutes here before going into meltdown. As for "free stuff" I know you're referring to the NHS, a healthcare system built on socialism which has long been the envy of the world, much to the annoyance of capitalists who do their utmost to destroy it.

It's not free, neither has it ever been.



It's not just NHS, all of that tax on petrol, that YOU were whining about goes for God knows what? Good service at the DVLA?

No it's meant to be spent on road maintenance. UK is one of the highest taxed countries in the west and always has been. It is NOT a cheap country to live in.
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Re: DVLA

Postby Maddog » Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:37 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:80% in total. You'd not last five minutes here before going into meltdown. As for "free stuff" I know you're referring to the NHS, a healthcare system built on socialism which has long been the envy of the world, much to the annoyance of capitalists who do their utmost to destroy it.

It's not free, neither has it ever been.



It's not just NHS, all of that tax on petrol, that YOU were whining about goes for God knows what? Good service at the DVLA?

No it's meant to be spent on road maintenance. UK is one of the highest taxed countries in the west and always has been. It is NOT a cheap country to live in.



Do you think we drive on dirt roads?


You're overtaxed for no better service then you whine a little but defend it in the end..

That's just weird...
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Re: DVLA

Postby Grafenwalder » Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:53 pm

Maddog wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:80% in total. You'd not last five minutes here before going into meltdown. As for "free stuff" I know you're referring to the NHS, a healthcare system built on socialism which has long been the envy of the world, much to the annoyance of capitalists who do their utmost to destroy it.

It's not free, neither has it ever been.



It's not just NHS, all of that tax on petrol, that YOU were whining about goes for God knows what? Good service at the DVLA?

No it's meant to be spent on road maintenance. UK is one of the highest taxed countries in the west and always has been. It is NOT a cheap country to live in.



Do you think we drive on dirt roads?

I expect some in the outback amount to that. No idea as i've never been.


You're overtaxed for no better service then you whine a little but defend it in the end..

That's just weird...

No i'm not 'defending' it at all. You asked what the tax was for so I told you. I doubt you'd find one motorist here who thinks the tax is fair, reasonable and justified, but the choice is go without a car and that won't work for everyone. Public transport isn't cheap and not always practical (eg it's useless if you're a shift worker).
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Re: DVLA

Postby Maddog » Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:10 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:80% in total. You'd not last five minutes here before going into meltdown. As for "free stuff" I know you're referring to the NHS, a healthcare system built on socialism which has long been the envy of the world, much to the annoyance of capitalists who do their utmost to destroy it.

It's not free, neither has it ever been.



It's not just NHS, all of that tax on petrol, that YOU were whining about goes for God knows what? Good service at the DVLA?

No it's meant to be spent on road maintenance. UK is one of the highest taxed countries in the west and always has been. It is NOT a cheap country to live in.



Do you think we drive on dirt roads?

I expect some in the outback amount to that. No idea as i've never been.


You're overtaxed for no better service then you whine a little but defend it in the end..

That's just weird...

No i'm not 'defending' it at all. You asked what the tax was for so I told you. I doubt you'd find one motorist here who thinks the tax is fair, reasonable and justified, but the choice is go without a car and that won't work for everyone. Public transport isn't cheap and not always practical (eg it's useless if you're a shift worker).


The choice is to fucking demand lower taxes and less "help".

The choice is to not defend nor support the worthless fucks that confiscate your wealth.

You have choices, but your conditioning makes you powerless to exercise them.

So you do what you always do. Whine about a shit system, while supporting it at the same, because they give you enough rations to keep you appeased.
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Re: DVLA

Postby Grafenwalder » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:16 pm

Maddog wrote:The choice is to fucking demand lower taxes and less "help".

The choice is to not defend nor support the worthless fucks that confiscate your wealth.

You have choices, but your conditioning makes you powerless to exercise them.

So you do what you always do. Whine about a shit system, while supporting it at the same, because they give you enough rations to keep you appeased.

Johnson promised to build 40 new hospitals if elected to PM. He got elected over two years ago. He hasn't dug a foundation or laid a single brick. He promised cheaper household bills if Brits backed Brexit and left the EU. 17 million dummies backed Brexit - and now the country has seen its largest energy price increase ever of over 50%.

I didn't vote for the shit system, folks like Rags and Red did so direct your ire at them.
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Re: DVLA

Postby Maddog » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:49 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:The choice is to fucking demand lower taxes and less "help".

The choice is to not defend nor support the worthless fucks that confiscate your wealth.

You have choices, but your conditioning makes you powerless to exercise them.

So you do what you always do. Whine about a shit system, while supporting it at the same, because they give you enough rations to keep you appeased.

Johnson promised to build 40 new hospitals if elected to PM. He got elected over two years ago. He hasn't dug a foundation or laid a single brick. He promised cheaper household bills if Brits backed Brexit and left the EU. 17 million dummies backed Brexit - and now the country has seen its largest energy price increase ever of over 50%.

I didn't vote for the shit system, folks like Rags and Red did so direct your ire at them.


Your shit system goes back to before you wore long britches.

Go back and read my previous post. It's directed at you and flew right over your fucking head.

You have an extreme case of cognitive dissonance.
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Re: DVLA

Postby ArchieG » Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:15 pm

Maddog wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:The choice is to fucking demand lower taxes and less "help".

The choice is to not defend nor support the worthless fucks that confiscate your wealth.

You have choices, but your conditioning makes you powerless to exercise them.

So you do what you always do. Whine about a shit system, while supporting it at the same, because they give you enough rations to keep you appeased.

Johnson promised to build 40 new hospitals if elected to PM. He got elected over two years ago. He hasn't dug a foundation or laid a single brick. He promised cheaper household bills if Brits backed Brexit and left the EU. 17 million dummies backed Brexit - and now the country has seen its largest energy price increase ever of over 50%.

I didn't vote for the shit system, folks like Rags and Red did so direct your ire at them.


Your shit system goes back to before you wore long britches.

Go back and read my previous post. It's directed at you and flew right over your fucking head.

You have an extreme case of cognitive dissonance.

He’s so angry at the mere existence of the Tory party, he seems, just for starters, to have missed the world being on hold for nearly 2 years. Some might say that Boris having both hands tied behind his back was a good thing, but Graf seems to actually want full on Tory, just so he can moan about it.
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Re: DVLA

Postby Raggamuffin » Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:22 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:The choice is to fucking demand lower taxes and less "help".

The choice is to not defend nor support the worthless fucks that confiscate your wealth.

You have choices, but your conditioning makes you powerless to exercise them.

So you do what you always do. Whine about a shit system, while supporting it at the same, because they give you enough rations to keep you appeased.

Johnson promised to build 40 new hospitals if elected to PM. He got elected over two years ago. He hasn't dug a foundation or laid a single brick. He promised cheaper household bills if Brits backed Brexit and left the EU. 17 million dummies backed Brexit - and now the country has seen its largest energy price increase ever of over 50%.

I didn't vote for the shit system, folks like Rags and Red did so direct your ire at them.


I didn't vote for an energy price increase.

You'll just have to put another jumper on if you can't afford heating. :snooty:
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Re: DVLA

Postby Grafenwalder » Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:38 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:The choice is to fucking demand lower taxes and less "help".

The choice is to not defend nor support the worthless fucks that confiscate your wealth.

You have choices, but your conditioning makes you powerless to exercise them.

So you do what you always do. Whine about a shit system, while supporting it at the same, because they give you enough rations to keep you appeased.

Johnson promised to build 40 new hospitals if elected to PM. He got elected over two years ago. He hasn't dug a foundation or laid a single brick. He promised cheaper household bills if Brits backed Brexit and left the EU. 17 million dummies backed Brexit - and now the country has seen its largest energy price increase ever of over 50%.

I didn't vote for the shit system, folks like Rags and Red did so direct your ire at them.


I didn't vote for an energy price increase.

You'll just have to put another jumper on if you can't afford heating. :snooty:

Yeah you weren't told by leaving the EU you'd lose access to the internal energy market which subsidizes wholesale energy rises, keeping prices low. You were being LIED to all the time but couldn't see it, didn't want to, because getting your Brexit was more important than anything else. Now it's all going pearshaped you try to joke your way out of it.
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Re: DVLA

Postby Raggamuffin » Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:51 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:The choice is to fucking demand lower taxes and less "help".

The choice is to not defend nor support the worthless fucks that confiscate your wealth.

You have choices, but your conditioning makes you powerless to exercise them.

So you do what you always do. Whine about a shit system, while supporting it at the same, because they give you enough rations to keep you appeased.

Johnson promised to build 40 new hospitals if elected to PM. He got elected over two years ago. He hasn't dug a foundation or laid a single brick. He promised cheaper household bills if Brits backed Brexit and left the EU. 17 million dummies backed Brexit - and now the country has seen its largest energy price increase ever of over 50%.

I didn't vote for the shit system, folks like Rags and Red did so direct your ire at them.


I didn't vote for an energy price increase.

You'll just have to put another jumper on if you can't afford heating. :snooty:

Yeah you weren't told by leaving the EU you'd lose access to the internal energy market which subsidizes wholesale energy rises, keeping prices low. You were being LIED to all the time but couldn't see it, didn't want to, because getting your Brexit was more important than anything else. Now it's all going pearshaped you try to joke your way out of it.


I wasn't joking. Weren't you ever told to put a jumper on if you were cold?

isn't this a global issue anyway?
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Re: DVLA

Postby Grafenwalder » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:14 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:The choice is to fucking demand lower taxes and less "help".

The choice is to not defend nor support the worthless fucks that confiscate your wealth.

You have choices, but your conditioning makes you powerless to exercise them.

So you do what you always do. Whine about a shit system, while supporting it at the same, because they give you enough rations to keep you appeased.

Johnson promised to build 40 new hospitals if elected to PM. He got elected over two years ago. He hasn't dug a foundation or laid a single brick. He promised cheaper household bills if Brits backed Brexit and left the EU. 17 million dummies backed Brexit - and now the country has seen its largest energy price increase ever of over 50%.

I didn't vote for the shit system, folks like Rags and Red did so direct your ire at them.


I didn't vote for an energy price increase.

You'll just have to put another jumper on if you can't afford heating. :snooty:

Yeah you weren't told by leaving the EU you'd lose access to the internal energy market which subsidizes wholesale energy rises, keeping prices low. You were being LIED to all the time but couldn't see it, didn't want to, because getting your Brexit was more important than anything else. Now it's all going pearshaped you try to joke your way out of it.


I wasn't joking. Weren't you ever told to put a jumper on if you were cold?

isn't this a global issue anyway?

I worked bloody hard for 45 years paying my taxes etc and expected to retire to a reasonable lifestyle of whatever I have left to enjoy. Not sit in the house dressed in layers of cardies and wooly overcoats.
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Re: DVLA

Postby ArchieG » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:19 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:
Maddog wrote:The choice is to fucking demand lower taxes and less "help".

The choice is to not defend nor support the worthless fucks that confiscate your wealth.

You have choices, but your conditioning makes you powerless to exercise them.

So you do what you always do. Whine about a shit system, while supporting it at the same, because they give you enough rations to keep you appeased.

Johnson promised to build 40 new hospitals if elected to PM. He got elected over two years ago. He hasn't dug a foundation or laid a single brick. He promised cheaper household bills if Brits backed Brexit and left the EU. 17 million dummies backed Brexit - and now the country has seen its largest energy price increase ever of over 50%.

I didn't vote for the shit system, folks like Rags and Red did so direct your ire at them.


I didn't vote for an energy price increase.

You'll just have to put another jumper on if you can't afford heating. :snooty:

Yeah you weren't told by leaving the EU you'd lose access to the internal energy market which subsidizes wholesale energy rises, keeping prices low. You were being LIED to all the time but couldn't see it, didn't want to, because getting your Brexit was more important than anything else. Now it's all going pearshaped you try to joke your way out of it.

Sadly, even being a member of the EU wouldnt save us from the current price rises. Unless we’d managed to kick the Germans into agreeing the Baltic pipeline. Russia are holding the EU to ransom over it. They wont pump more gas until it’s sorted.
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Re: DVLA

Postby Raggamuffin » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:26 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:I worked bloody hard for 45 years paying my taxes etc and expected to retire to a reasonable lifestyle of whatever I have left to enjoy. Not sit in the house dressed in layers of cardies and wooly overcoats.


It's better not to have expectations - then you won't be disappointed. :laughing:
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