Over diagnosis of illness.

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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby rollup » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:30 pm

Random wrote:
rollup wrote:Why are so Many Healthy People Dying from the Flu After Receiving the Flu Vaccine Shot?

In the video above, he explains that the flu shot causes Guillain-Barré Syndrome, and that the flu shot is not very effective in preventing the flu. He also explains that the CDC does not follow the law for vaccines in requiring long-term safety testing for the influenza vaccine like they do with other vaccines, as it is impossible to test a vaccine that changes every year. So the flu vaccine is basically an experimental vaccine that they want to give out to 300 million people every year. There are also no studies showing the safety of giving the flu vaccine to the same person every single year. However, Dr. Geier points out that the CDC is in the business of distributing flu vaccines, because they represent 300 million doses per year, whereas all the childhood vaccines together only number 20 million.

Dr. Geier goes on to explain that flu is “the wrong thing to vaccinate against” because you have to keep re-vaccinating against it every year, unlike childhood infectious diseases, such as smallpox, that are only vaccinated for once. Dr. Geier points out how ridiculous it is spend billions of dollars on a vaccine that might, at its best, save about 50 lives a year, when there are far more serious problems causing death that are more worthy of that kind of expenditure.
More>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-are-so-many-healthy-people-dying-from-the-flu-after-receiving-the-flu-vaccine-shot/5485757


The flu jab is dead jack, which means you won't get any flu symptoms from having it.

I know.
The people caught the flu after having the jab.
Did you know that last years flu jab was only effective in 25%of the people having it?
Did you know the flu vaccine is classed as experimental?
It's not like the polio vaccine that has been rigorously tested simply because it's a different vaccine that's produced every year so it can't go through rigorous testing which any other vaccine would have to fo through?
The reason it isn't very effective is because it's last years strain which is mostly useless against this years strain but ....it's very profitable.
I have never had the vaccine and don't intend doing so. I've had flu once in my life and very unpleasant it was too ....very!
The world got this far without the flu vaccine so I'm hoping my immune system works for me as it has for all these years.
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby Gabby » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:33 pm

Trapper John wrote:
Poca wrote:There's a new Viagra drug just been made available over the counter due to popular demand........ it's called Mycoxaflopin! :thumbsup:


:mrgreen:

I reckon it needs a nice trendy, catchy name for the mass market sell - I suggest 'Flag Pole'


A little too presumptuous me thinks :gigglesnshit: ...... maybe 'Half Mast'! :gigglesnshit:
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby Random » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:05 pm

rollup wrote:
Random wrote:
rollup wrote:Why are so Many Healthy People Dying from the Flu After Receiving the Flu Vaccine Shot?

In the video above, he explains that the flu shot causes Guillain-Barré Syndrome, and that the flu shot is not very effective in preventing the flu. He also explains that the CDC does not follow the law for vaccines in requiring long-term safety testing for the influenza vaccine like they do with other vaccines, as it is impossible to test a vaccine that changes every year. So the flu vaccine is basically an experimental vaccine that they want to give out to 300 million people every year. There are also no studies showing the safety of giving the flu vaccine to the same person every single year. However, Dr. Geier points out that the CDC is in the business of distributing flu vaccines, because they represent 300 million doses per year, whereas all the childhood vaccines together only number 20 million.

Dr. Geier goes on to explain that flu is “the wrong thing to vaccinate against” because you have to keep re-vaccinating against it every year, unlike childhood infectious diseases, such as smallpox, that are only vaccinated for once. Dr. Geier points out how ridiculous it is spend billions of dollars on a vaccine that might, at its best, save about 50 lives a year, when there are far more serious problems causing death that are more worthy of that kind of expenditure.
More>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-are-so-many-healthy-people-dying-from-the-flu-after-receiving-the-flu-vaccine-shot/5485757


The flu jab is dead jack, which means you won't get any flu symptoms from having it.

I know.
The people caught the flu after having the jab.
Did you know that last years flu jab was only effective in 25%of the people having it?
Did you know the flu vaccine is classed as experimental?
It's not like the polio vaccine that has been rigorously tested simply because it's a different vaccine that's produced every year so it can't go through rigorous testing which any other vaccine would have to fo through?
The reason it isn't very effective is because it's last years strain which is mostly useless against this years strain but ....it's very profitable.
I have never had the vaccine and don't intend doing so. I've had flu once in my life and very unpleasant it was too ....very!
The world got this far without the flu vaccine so I'm hoping my immune system works for me as it has for all these years.

25% effective isn't bad for a little prick! And as you said, you have had the flu once and it is very unpleasant.

People in this Country are so ungrateful for the care they receive. Moaning and whinging.. Try moving to a third world Country where there is nothing, or even America where you have to pay silly amounts for basic care. Yes the poor moan about being given healthcare that in a true capitalist society only the very rich could afford.

If it were up to me Jack, anyone that moans would be shown the door ,or... Referred to a psychiatrist.
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby rollup » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:26 pm

All I have done is exercise my choice not to have something.
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby Random » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:34 pm

rollup wrote:All I have done is exercise my choice not to have something.

Yeah I know. Chill :mrgreen:
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby rollup » Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:37 pm

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rollup wrote:There's a book I read part of online years ago and can't remember the name of it or the author or find anything about it now but it was about one of big pharmas top men of the twentieth century.
His life ambition was to develop a drug that would be be prescribed to everyone before they had anything wrong with them.
It's thought that statins could be it or as near as damn it.
Statins are suspected of causing diabetes too.
I can't take them as I have bad reactions to them but only since developing T2 diabetes after being on statins for over a year.
But I managed to get the bad cholesterol down and the good cholesterol slowly going up by eating a low carb high fat diet and lowered my blood pressure too at the same time.
My diabetes is almost none existent now.
The big drug industry is very corrupt.
Scientists professors etc that speak out 0f company line have their careers destroyed.


Although some medicines are vital some are definitely given out willy nilly. The mistake some GPs make is that they think that's all patients want.
I decided to get off everything, particularly painkillers, earlier this year- which I've been taking in one form or another since 2008. With other healthier lifestyle changes I feel fine, been off the tapentadol for 8 months. :canny:

Why were you on Tapentadol?
It is only prescribed by specialists at first then if you can tolerate it and if your GP has certain specialities he/she can then prescribe it for you.
I had to sign a contract before I could be prescribed it and it is only prescribed when morphine has failed or cannot be tolerated.
I have to get mine from the hospital once a month as no one at my surgery qualifies to prescribe it for me.
Not the kind of drug I would have thought you'd get prescribed and then just walk away from and replace with a few lifestyle changes.
You sure it was Tapentadol?

Tapentadol prolonged release (Palexia® SR) is recommended as an option for restricted use within NHS Wales, only in the following subpopulation within its licensed indication: Patients with severe chronic pain, in whom morphine sulphate modified release has failed to provide adequate pain control or is not tolerated. Tapentadol prolonged release (Palexia® SR) is not recommended for the management of severe chronic pain in adults, which can be adequately managed only with opioid analgesics, outside of the subpopulation described above. AWMSG is of the opinion that tapentadol prolonged release (Palexia® SR) should be initially prescribed by a specialist*. Prescribing may be continued in primary care with appropriate communication and specialist input. *Specialist implies specialist team or GP with special interest (GPwSI) with appropriate accreditation from the specialist faculty.
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby Lady Murasaki » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:11 am

Yes I'm sure I was on it Jack. My GP put me on it because other painkillers were not working on their own and I was not able to drive while having a combo of painkillers. So he decided this one would be enough, he said it was blacklisted so I had to sign twice for it. I was on it for a year but with some major lifestyle changes I'd decided to see how I'd cope without it. So far so good. It was a gradual change not an overnight one.
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby rollup » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:42 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:Yes I'm sure I was on it Jack. My GP put me on it because other painkillers were not working on their own and I was not able to drive while having a combo of painkillers. So he decided this one would be enough, he said it was blacklisted so I had to sign twice for it. I was on it for a year but with some major lifestyle changes I'd decided to see how I'd cope without it. So far so good. It was a gradual change not an overnight one.

You have it mixed up I think with something else because it can only be specialist prescribed for the first few months before your surgery can prescribe it.
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby Lady Murasaki » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:50 pm

Sorry jack, you're wrong. Maybe different surgeries have different rules. I'm not an imbecile I know what medicines I've taken. Anyway, I'm off it now. :thumbsup:
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby rollup » Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:10 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:Sorry jack, you're wrong. Maybe different surgeries have different rules. I'm not an imbecile I know what medicines I've taken. Anyway, I'm off it now. :thumbsup:

The prescribing rules might be different in England.
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby Vicky » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:36 am

My cousins wife was rushed to hospital yesterday after suffering a stroke.

They've been told to expect the worst.

She's only 51 and has two daughters of 16 and 17 and a son of 22.

It's terrible how life can change so quickly.
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby Keyser » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:55 am

Victoria wrote:My cousins wife was rushed to hospital yesterday after suffering a stroke.

They've been told to expect the worst.

She's only 51 and has two daughters of 16 and 17 and a son of 22.

It's terrible how life can change so quickly.


I am very sorry to hear that Vicky.

Life can be a real bastard. :sad:
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby Vicky » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:24 am

Keyser wrote:
Victoria wrote:My cousins wife was rushed to hospital yesterday after suffering a stroke.

They've been told to expect the worst.

She's only 51 and has two daughters of 16 and 17 and a son of 22.

It's terrible how life can change so quickly.


I am very sorry to hear that Vicky.

Life can be a real bastard. :sad:


It certainly can Keys.
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby Kat » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:26 pm

Sorry Victoria to hear your sad news x omg that made me shudder .cos I know a man here that had a stroke massive on Monday .he usually drops thee paper off for someone I know anyway Monday it was a no show so rang his sister to see if he was ill cos he's always on time .anyway he must have had a massive stroke some to!e during Monday !morning sister raised alarm after I'd called her
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Re: Over diagnosis of illness.

Postby Vicky » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:45 am

Kat wrote:Sorry Victoria to hear your sad news x omg that made me shudder .cos I know a man here that had a stroke massive on Monday .he usually drops thee paper off for someone I know anyway Monday it was a no show so rang his sister to see if he was ill cos he's always on time .anyway he must have had a massive stroke some to!e during Monday !morning sister raised alarm after I'd called her


I hope he's okay Kat.

My cousin's wife has shown a few encouraging signs, fingers crossed they'll both be okay. x
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