My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby rollio » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:31 pm

You're right I knew nothing tuill I started having problems.
When I was diagnosed with T2 I was shocked.
Never overweight never had a sweet tooth not a snacker not the person who should be getting diabetes at all. Not the way I understood it anyway.
I've near as dam it cut out all sugar.
When I first saw the diabetic nurse I told her that I had gotten eighty quids worth of books was studying the disease and found the Glysemic lod index very helpful.
You mean glycemic index she said.
No I mean glycemic load it's more informative than the index.
No such thing the books must be rubbish.
I stood up and told her she was ten years out of date doesn't have a clue what she's talking about and I won't be having any more dealings with her.
Turns out alot of people refuse to be seen for all manner of things by her.
My doc admitted that everyone following her advice gets fatter and sicker and the medication goes up and up.
She even admitted to me that most GP's are largely ignorant abot diabetes.
They give conflicting advice.
More and more of them are now sugesting Low Carb High Fat.
I've never been into herbal/alternative medicines but have started taking an interest.
I might be about to explore lettuce opium.
Less addictive than poppy opium but not sure if it will be strong enough for my needs.
Might be good with other stuff though ... gotta do more research.
I'm heavily into cinnamon just now as another blood sugar control thing.
Not sure I really need it though because I'm having no diabetic symptoms.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Feline » Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:26 am

rollio wrote:You're right I knew nothing tuill I started having problems.
When I was diagnosed with T2 I was shocked.
Never overweight never had a sweet tooth not a snacker not the person who should be getting diabetes at all. Not the way I understood it anyway.
I've near as dam it cut out all sugar.
When I first saw the diabetic nurse I told her that I had gotten eighty quids worth of books was studying the disease and found the Glysemic lod index very helpful.
You mean glycemic index she said.
No I mean glycemic load it's more informative than the index.
No such thing the books must be rubbish.
I stood up and told her she was ten years out of date doesn't have a clue what she's talking about and I won't be having any more dealings with her.
Turns out alot of people refuse to be seen for all manner of things by her.
My doc admitted that everyone following her advice gets fatter and sicker and the medication goes up and up.
She even admitted to me that most GP's are largely ignorant abot diabetes.
They give conflicting advice.
More and more of them are now sugesting Low Carb High Fat.
I've never been into herbal/alternative medicines but have started taking an interest.
I might be about to explore lettuce opium.
Less addictive than poppy opium but not sure if it will be strong enough for my needs.
Might be good with other stuff though ... gotta do more research.
I'm heavily into cinnamon just now as another blood sugar control thing.
Not sure I really need it though because I'm having no diabetic symptoms.


Cinnamon is good for other reasons as well so its all good, not heared of the lettuce opium but since starting this new (lets say thing) my pain is down ( and energy is up) and having just got myself rid of a strong painkiller addiction ( daft GP giving someone like me something addictive, but it's ok you know because it's prescribed) I'm not going to try anything else for pain just yet, see how it all feels once the winter is here. The only time I have been in a lot of pain lately is when I am looking after the baby, she is a little unsettled and so I have to walk up and down either bouncing or rocking her and it's awful on my joints but gone by the next day (so far).

Hope your health continues to grow.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:07 pm

The worst thing I'm on I've been on for years now so should I have to go without I'll be in a serious withdrawal situation.
Hence the interest in Lettuce opium as opposed to poppy opium.

Tapentadol prolonged release (Palexia® SR) is recommended as an option for restricted use within NHS Wales, only in the following subpopulation within its licensed indication: Patients with severe chronic pain, in whom morphine sulphate modified release has failed to provide adequate pain control or is not tolerated. Tapentadol prolonged release (Palexia® SR) is not recommended for the management of severe chronic pain in adults, which can be adequately managed only with opioid analgesics, outside of the subpopulation described above. AWMSG is of the opinion that tapentadol prolonged release (Palexia® SR) should be initially prescribed by a specialist*. Prescribing may be continued in primary care with appropriate communication and specialist input. *Specialist implies specialist team or GP with special interest (GPwSI) with appropriate accreditation from the specialist faculty.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Feline » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:46 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:The worst thing I'm on I've been on for years now so should I have to go without I'll be in a serious withdrawal situation.
Hence the interest in Lettuce opium as opposed to poppy opium.

Tapentadol prolonged release (Palexia® SR) is recommended as an option for restricted use within NHS Wales, only in the following subpopulation within its licensed indication: Patients with severe chronic pain, in whom morphine sulphate modified release has failed to provide adequate pain control or is not tolerated. Tapentadol prolonged release (Palexia® SR) is not recommended for the management of severe chronic pain in adults, which can be adequately managed only with opioid analgesics, outside of the subpopulation described above. AWMSG is of the opinion that tapentadol prolonged release (Palexia® SR) should be initially prescribed by a specialist*. Prescribing may be continued in primary care with appropriate communication and specialist input. *Specialist implies specialist team or GP with special interest (GPwSI) with appropriate accreditation from the specialist faculty.


Hmm, my GP offered me these to replace the tramadol (Iwas taking slow release and normal release) that I was coming off of. Luckily I now know to look these things up.

I actually found it pretty easy to come off the tramadol but its always the same once I make my mind up. ( Now if only sugar addiction was as easy. ) First time ever I did things properly rather than cold turkey..
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:08 pm

Yeah I came off Tramadol without problems but this stuff is in a different league.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:18 pm

My daughter has never been vaccinated against anything and has never been sick. I came up against some pressure for the cervical cancer jab ( she was the only one in the year to not have it. But stood my ground and stated I'd rather teach self respect.

I'm the only one at work in my dpt to refuse the flu jab. Again came up against some pressure ( not nice) you might be putting others at risk etc arguments. I don't want germs putting into my body. I eat healthy and have an adequate amount of alcohol to kill it.


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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Feline » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:37 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Yeah I came off Tramadol without problems but this stuff is in a different league.


I was very lucky and this time lm lucky I did my homework and know that GPs don't have time to research into things anymore. That is down to us all of us to now not just take what is given and not just believe that GPs know what is bad for us and I don't trust big pharma anymore, not one bit

My daughter's GP had a small breakdown in his office because she asked if such and such was ok while breastfeeding. he almost cried and said "I cannot do this much longer I am not given enough time to do my job anymore" Elderly old school Dr, this was a few years ago now..

I have a few times being given pills by a GP and when I have gone to certain pharmacist they have said "you should not be taking this" or "that is the wrong dose", or "those two pills are not compatible" A few I has been taking for a long time.

I think I might go talk to a few independent pharmacists and asked them advice on vaccines and see what I can pick up.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:55 pm

Feline wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Yeah I came off Tramadol without problems but this stuff is in a different league.


I was very lucky and this time lm lucky I did my homework and know that GPs don't have time to research into things anymore. That is down to us all of us to now not just take what is given and not just believe that GPs know what is bad for us and I don't trust big pharma anymore, not one bit

My daughter's GP had a small breakdown in his office because she asked if such and such was ok while breastfeeding. he almost cried and said "I cannot do this much longer I am not given enough time to do my job anymore" Elderly old school Dr, this was a few years ago now..

I have a few times being given pills by a GP and when I have gone to certain pharmacist they have said "you should not be taking this" or "that is the wrong dose", or "those two pills are not compatible" A few I has been taking for a long time.

I think I might go talk to a few independent pharmacists and asked them advice on vaccines and see what I can pick up.


You can ask all you want but it's your daughters decision. You'd do well to voice your own concerns but support her in whatever decision she makes. My daughter hated me for a week when she was the only one to not have the cervical cancer jab. I had made her the odd one out at a time in the teens when they are seeking their own identity and fitting in. The topic was too complex to explain in 5 minutes why I made that decision and she was too angry at me to listen. So I had to back off and bit by bit I explained and showed why I made that decision and why it was for her own good. It took time but she understood in the end. Made me feel like shit for a bit but that's a small price to pay.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Feline » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:34 am

Guest wrote:
Feline wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Yeah I came off Tramadol without problems but this stuff is in a different league.


I was very lucky and this time lm lucky I did my homework and know that GPs don't have time to research into things anymore. That is down to us all of us to now not just take what is given and not just believe that GPs know what is bad for us and I don't trust big pharma anymore, not one bit

My daughter's GP had a small breakdown in his office because she asked if such and such was ok while breastfeeding. he almost cried and said "I cannot do this much longer I am not given enough time to do my job anymore" Elderly old school Dr, this was a few years ago now..

I have a few times being given pills by a GP and when I have gone to certain pharmacist they have said "you should not be taking this" or "that is the wrong dose", or "those two pills are not compatible" A few I has been taking for a long time.

I think I might go talk to a few independent pharmacists and asked them advice on vaccines and see what I can pick up.


You can ask all you want but it's your daughters decision. You'd do well to voice your own concerns but support her in whatever decision she makes.
My daughter hated me for a week when she was the only one to not have the cervical cancer jab. I had made her the odd one out at a time in the teens when they are seeking their own identity and fitting in. The topic was too complex to explain in 5 minutes why I made that decision and she was too angry at me to listen. So I had to back off and bit by bit I explained and showed why I made that decision and why it was for her own good. It took time but she understood in the end. Made me feel like shit for a bit but that's a small price to pay.


I already do that. I never said anything to my daughter after she had the jabs done. I just asked her to read a book while she was pregnant,


I also have a duty to my grandkids as well as to their mum, I have looked after them since they were born. I am expected to do what is best for them at all times. keep them safe keep them from harm I can just imagine if anything happened and my daughter felt I didn't do enough to advise her. You cannot just switch off when you know the chances of harm are high and getting higher every new vaccine they introduce.

They want to give new borns Gardasil and some children, boys, as well as girls, are being vaccinated without parental consent (might just be the USA so far) if people cannot see how dangerous Gardasil is then there really isn't any hope for getting them to see about other vaccines, the damage Gardasil is doing is in your face.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Big Fat Frosty » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:06 pm

snake oil at best
poison at worst
humans got this far without sticking needles of toxic chemicals into babies ffs..
feeding them with crops grown without pesticides
now look what is happening
1 in 70 children autistic
toxic poisons in everyday products
leeching into the water
its a chemical onslaught
on human biology
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Feline » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:05 am

Vaccine caused or substantially contributed to cot death,

https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/s ... v0611-73-0


In the United States Court of Federal Claims

After carefully analyzing and weighing all of the evidence and testimony presented in this case in accordance with the applicable legal standards, the undersigned finds that petitioners have met their legal burden. Petitioners have put forth preponderant evidence that the vaccines
J.B. received on September 2, 2011 actually caused or substantially contributed to his death

Not the first or the last.

£3.5m paid out in vaccine damages

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4356027.stm
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Lady Murasaki » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:05 am

I think GPs do the best they can with the resources they have but they are not Gods. My local practice has virtually broken down in the last few years , 2 gps have died and 2 taken early retirement, it's near impossible to get an appointment. Luckily we all have good health atm.
I came off tapentadol over two years ago after being on it for a year for my chronic fatigue, no withdrawal problems. Coming off Gabapentin and amytriptaline the previous year, however, was a nightmare.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Feline » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:10 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:I think GPs do the best they can with the resources they have but they are not Gods. My local practice has virtually broken down in the last few years , 2 gps have died and 2 taken early retirement, it's near impossible to get an appointment. Luckily we all have good health atm.
I came off tapentadol over two years ago after being on it for a year for my chronic fatigue, no withdrawal problems. Coming off Gabapentin and amytriptaline the previous year, however, was a nightmare.



Gabapentin was another the GP put me on. I read up on it and people's experience on it and didn't take it. I found Amytripaline amazing for getting me into a sleep routine but was only on a very small dose came off of it when I read that its one of the things that can lead to dementia.

People taking anticholinergic drugs over a long period of time may be at greater risk of developing dementia.



https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2017/05 ... gic-drugs/
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Lady Murasaki » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:12 pm

Feline wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:I think GPs do the best they can with the resources they have but they are not Gods. My local practice has virtually broken down in the last few years , 2 gps have died and 2 taken early retirement, it's near impossible to get an appointment. Luckily we all have good health atm.
I came off tapentadol over two years ago after being on it for a year for my chronic fatigue, no withdrawal problems. Coming off Gabapentin and amytriptaline the previous year, however, was a nightmare.



Gabapentin was another the GP put me on. I read up on it and people's experience on it and didn't take it. I found Amytripaline amazing for getting me into a sleep routine but was only on a very small dose came off of it when I read that its one of the things that can lead to dementia.

People taking anticholinergic drugs over a long period of time may be at greater risk of developing dementia.



https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2017/05 ... gic-drugs/


Oh I didn't know that. I was on both gaba and amy at the same time for 2 years so I don't know which one was the bugger that cause withdrawal problems but my Amy was a low dose at the time.
I suppose anything taken that affects your brain long term would have some detrimental effect.
But like a I said tapentadol was the better pain killer- didn't make me drowsy or high just dealt with the pain and was easier to come off.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Feline » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:28 pm

Cleveland Clinic Doctor is Silenced for Questioning Vaccine Safety

http://info.cmsri.org/blog/cleveland-cl ... ine-safety


So let me be clear - vaccines can be helpful when used properly. But the vaccination timing and understanding one's epigenetics (how your genes interact with the environment) are all critical to our risk of developing chronic disease. Please talk to your doctor about the optimal timing of vaccinations for your children, and therefore reduce your risk of raising a child with a neurologic complication.

For those who want to dive in further, help me understand why we vaccinate newborns for hepatitis B - a sexually transmitted disease. Any exposure to this virus is unlikely to happen before our second decade of life, but we expose our precious newborns to toxic aluminum (an adjuvant in the vaccine) at one day of life.
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