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General train talk.

Postby jra » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:03 pm

I read an interesting article today by Andrew Adonis.

http://www.ukpol.co.uk/andrew-adonis-20 ... -beeching/

I agree with pretty much everything he says and I'd like your views.

Things I would be interested in knowing from any posters on here is were any railway lines closed in your very local area, how it affected the local community, how it affected the local economy and do you think the line(s) should be reinstated?

Also, I'd be interested to know is how do you feel about bi-mode trains being used as an excuse to curtail or shelve electrification projects? A couple of notable examples being Cardiff - Swansea and Market Harborough - Derby/Nottingham/Sheffield.

How do you feel about HS2?

etc.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby Dean » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:17 pm

I use the train a lot. Much cheaper and faster than driving for work.

I’ve also worked on HS2. It’s created loads of jobs in Brum...
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Re: General train talk.

Postby Fletch » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:50 pm

I've been on one too. :canny:
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Re: General train talk.

Postby HobbitFeet » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:55 pm

troll it and I won't hesitate

got it?
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Re: General train talk.

Postby Dean » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:07 pm

HobbitFeet wrote:troll it and I won't hesitate

got it?


Shouldn’t you at least wait for a rule to be broken before you start the dictator act?

You do realise you’ve probably just killed any chance of a proper chat about trains now in your haste to show everybody who is the boss?
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Re: General train talk.

Postby HobbitFeet » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:11 pm

oh come on

fletch was already on it

but hey take take your ball if you like, your perogative


you try so hard to troll elsewhere it's kinda sweet, but keep it out of here
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Re: General train talk.

Postby Dean » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:14 pm

I made a perfectly valid and on topic post. Because of your over moderation and control freak tendencies, I won’t bother now. Well done for ruining another thread.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby HobbitFeet » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:15 pm

yes you absolutely did

did anyone dispute that? :roll:
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Re: General train talk.

Postby Dean » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:19 pm

HobbitFeet wrote:yes you absolutely did

did anyone dispute that? :roll:


So why the need to ‘stamp your authority’? Why can’t you just let people post in peace without having to constantly remind everyone you’re Admin? Until your interjection, this was a troll free thread. Well done again...
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Re: General train talk.

Postby jra » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:28 pm

Dean wrote:I use the train a lot. Much cheaper and faster than driving for work.

I’ve also worked on HS2. It’s created loads of jobs in Brum...


That's good for the local economy. London Euston is being (partly) rebuilt as part of the HS2 project, as the original station was demolished in the '60s (including the Doric/Euston Arch) and replaced with what only can be called a concrete monstrosity. Industrial vandalism IMO. We can only be thankful that St. Pancras didn't go the same way and was saved from demolition mainly by Sir John Betjeman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euston_ra ... #Criticism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Betj ... chitecture
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Re: General train talk.

Postby HobbitFeet » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:31 pm

jra wrote:
Dean wrote:I use the train a lot. Much cheaper and faster than driving for work.

I’ve also worked on HS2. It’s created loads of jobs in Brum...


That's good for the local economy. London Euston is being (partly) rebuilt as part of the HS2 project, as the original station was demolished in the '60s (including the Doric/Euston Arch) and replaced with what only can be called a concrete monstrosity. Industrial vandalism IMO. We can only be thankful that St. Pancras didn't go the same way and was saved from demolition mainly by Sir John Betjeman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euston_ra ... #Criticism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Betj ... chitecture



we're travelling into Euston at the end of August, you could just see the work starting when we last went in May - I'm hoping there isn't too much disruption

isn't the HS2 under some sort of jeopardy again? I saw a headline maybe yesterday, but it isn't in my remit so I just glanced
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Re: General train talk.

Postby Dean » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:33 pm

jra wrote:
Dean wrote:I use the train a lot. Much cheaper and faster than driving for work.

I’ve also worked on HS2. It’s created loads of jobs in Brum...


That's good for the local economy. London Euston is being (partly) rebuilt as part of the HS2 project, as the original station was demolished in the '60s (including the Doric/Euston Arch) and replaced with what only can be called a concrete monstrosity. Industrial vandalism IMO. We can only be thankful that St. Pancras didn't go the same way and was saved from demolition mainly by Sir John Betjeman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euston_ra ... #Criticism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Betj ... chitecture


I’m working in Birmingham city centre at the moment, there’s an awful lot of road closures and roadworks being done to accommodate HS2.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby McAz » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:44 pm

We use cars here - a necessity, not a choice.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby jra » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:47 pm

HobbitFeet wrote:
jra wrote:
Dean wrote:I use the train a lot. Much cheaper and faster than driving for work.

I’ve also worked on HS2. It’s created loads of jobs in Brum...


That's good for the local economy. London Euston is being (partly) rebuilt as part of the HS2 project, as the original station was demolished in the '60s (including the Doric/Euston Arch) and replaced with what only can be called a concrete monstrosity. Industrial vandalism IMO. We can only be thankful that St. Pancras didn't go the same way and was saved from demolition mainly by Sir John Betjeman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euston_ra ... #Criticism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Betj ... chitecture



we're travelling into Euston at the end of August, you could just see the work starting when we last went in May - I'm hoping there isn't too much disruption

isn't the HS2 under some sort of jeopardy again? I saw a headline maybe yesterday, but it isn't in my remit so I just glanced


Unfortunately, there is inevitably going to be some significant disruption at various times for a project as large as this, just like there was on the WCML upgrade and Thameslink Programme. AFAIK phase 1 of HS2 is too far advanced now for it to be reversed/cancelled, but for phase 2 and beyond, just like with many past rail projects in the UK, they are often curtailed/cut short or cancelled due to the usual excuse of cost overruns.

The UK IMO has a very short-sighted blinkered view (short terminism) on major upgrades, electrification and other projects as in not looking forward enough into the future.

As for rail disruption, just check on the relevant TOC website for current disruptions or engineering work.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:51 pm

The following song was used by British Rail in a tv ad late 70's.
I instantly had to find out who was singing this little gem .... went out and bought three albums.
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