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Re: General train talk.

Postby jra » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:52 pm

McAz wrote:We use cars here - a necessity, not a choice.


Yes, we know McAz, but this is a thread about trains, not cars.

Did you read the original article I posted? It mentions how some significant rail lines were closed in the Lake District/Cumbria area.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby McAz » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:54 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:The following song was used by British Rail in a tv ad late 70's.
I instantly had to find out who was singing this little gem .... went out and bought three albums.


I remember that ad - the music was better than the trains which were anything but relaxing.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby McAz » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:54 pm

jra wrote:
McAz wrote:We use cars here - a necessity, not a choice.


Yes, we know McAz, but this is a thread about trains, not cars.

Did you read the original article I posted? It mentions how some significant rail lines were closed in the Lake District/Cumbria area.


It's relevant because it cites the lack of trains.

It's not appropriate to discuss your linked article here since it is political.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby jra » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:57 pm

McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:We use cars here - a necessity, not a choice.


Yes, we know McAz, but this is a thread about trains, not cars.

Did you read the original article I posted? It mentions how some significant rail lines were closed in the Lake District/Cumbria area.


It's relevant because it cites the lack of trains.


Fair enough. They were going to electrify Oxenholme to Windermere, but that got shelved. You have to ask just why. It's only a short section of line.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby McAz » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:59 pm

jra wrote:
McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:We use cars here - a necessity, not a choice.


Yes, we know McAz, but this is a thread about trains, not cars.

Did you read the original article I posted? It mentions how some significant rail lines were closed in the Lake District/Cumbria area.


It's relevant because it cites the lack of trains.


Fair enough. They were going to electrify Oxenholme to Windermere, but that got shelved. You have to ask just why. It's only a short section of line.

I recall you mentioned this some time ago - are there new developments? :scratch:
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Re: General train talk.

Postby jra » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:32 am

McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:We use cars here - a necessity, not a choice.


Yes, we know McAz, but this is a thread about trains, not cars.

Did you read the original article I posted? It mentions how some significant rail lines were closed in the Lake District/Cumbria area.


It's relevant because it cites the lack of trains.


Fair enough. They were going to electrify Oxenholme to Windermere, but that got shelved. You have to ask just why. It's only a short section of line.

I recall you mentioned this some time ago - are there new developments? :scratch:


Not as far as I know, other than using class 769 Flex trains.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windermer ... n_proposal

Funnily enough, class 319's were primarily used on the Bedford - Luton - London St Pancras - Brighton, plus the Sutton loop services, with class 377 and 387 used as an interim measure, until the class 700's were rolled out. The former units have been cascaded elsewhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_700

Northern Rail are due to receive a large batch of new trains in the near future, including getting rid of the Pacer trains which do not meet DDA standards. Plus, they're crap trains anyway, known as 'nodding donkeys'.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby jra » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:50 am

McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:We use cars here - a necessity, not a choice.


Yes, we know McAz, but this is a thread about trains, not cars.

Did you read the original article I posted? It mentions how some significant rail lines were closed in the Lake District/Cumbria area.


It's relevant because it cites the lack of trains.

It's not appropriate to discuss your linked article here since it is political.


Missed this bit. I don't think it a hard and fast rule that anything political can't be discussed in other forums.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby McAz » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:30 pm

jra wrote:
McAz wrote:I recall you mentioned this some time ago - are there new developments? :scratch:


Not as far as I know...


jra wrote:You might want to lobby Chris Grayling as to why he cancelled the Oxenholme - Windermere electrification project.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windermere_branch_line
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/ne ... 44966.html

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Re: General train talk.

Postby McAz » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:33 pm

jra wrote:
McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:We use cars here - a necessity, not a choice.


Yes, we know McAz, but this is a thread about trains, not cars.

Did you read the original article I posted? It mentions how some significant rail lines were closed in the Lake District/Cumbria area.


It's relevant because it cites the lack of trains.

It's not appropriate to discuss your linked article here since it is political.


Missed this bit. I don't think it a hard and fast rule that anything political can't be discussed in other forums.


I won't take the risk - political debates get heated and the Snug is traditionally for nice things like new-born lambs and crocheting.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby HobbitFeet » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:43 pm

that reminds me of an obituary the local paper ran many years ago, a missed comma means the world

'she loved watching her cats knitting'
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Re: General train talk.

Postby McAz » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:58 pm

:smilin:
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Re: General train talk.

Postby jra » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:58 pm

McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:I recall you mentioned this some time ago - are there new developments? :scratch:


Not as far as I know...


jra wrote:You might want to lobby Chris Grayling as to why he cancelled the Oxenholme - Windermere electrification project.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windermere_branch_line
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/ne ... 44966.html



I know why Chris Grayling cancelled various electrification projects, citing bi-mode trains were sufficient and electrification was too disruptive. Most of western Europe begs to differ, notably France, Germany, Italy and Spain.

Bi-mode trains have their uses, but shouldn't be used as an excuse to cancel electrification projects.

Bi-mode trains have disadvantages over electric-only traction.

They are less energy efficient in diesel mode.
They are less environmentally friendly in diesel mode.
They have poorer acceleration in diesel mode.
They are more expensive to produce than electric-only trains, as they also have diesel engines, which also adds to the weight.
They are more expensive to maintain.
They are noisier than electric-only trains especially if there are underfloor engines.

Having said that the class 800s are pretty good in diesel mode regarding noise and acceleration, but still under par compared when in electric mode.
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Re: Zero members logged in, Friday night thread...

Postby LordRaven » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:24 pm

jra wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:
You don't - learned people do. :thumbsup:


Yes McAz. You've already said that once. I'm not a five-year-old, so try and stop talking to me as if I am. And I am learned, so you can't use that as a scoring mechanism. We just have a difference of opinion. Just because people don't agree with you, doesn't automatically make them thick/stupid. :thumbsup:


No, you're a genuine idiot. Stick to trolling, whoring and trains. :thumbsup:


Did you forget anything?


Just let the old drug-addled fool get on with it.

Oh and I forgot to wish you a happy birthday, old bean. :thumbsup:

Thanks jra :thumbsup: I had a good time over quite a few days. :more beer:
I am having a rest of booze today with my liver and kidneys drying out on the radiator. :smilin:
I am doing so because I have a trip to Hereford on GWR to go a brother's birthday next weekend.
That will be a session. :awesome:
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Re: Zero members logged in, Friday night thread...

Postby jra » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:34 pm

LordRaven wrote:
jra wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
Yes McAz. You've already said that once. I'm not a five-year-old, so try and stop talking to me as if I am. And I am learned, so you can't use that as a scoring mechanism. We just have a difference of opinion. Just because people don't agree with you, doesn't automatically make them thick/stupid. :thumbsup:


No, you're a genuine idiot. Stick to trolling, whoring and trains. :thumbsup:


Did you forget anything?


Just let the old drug-addled fool get on with it.

Oh and I forgot to wish you a happy birthday, old bean. :thumbsup:

Thanks jra :thumbsup: I had a good time over quite a few days. :more beer:
I am having a rest of booze today with my liver and kidneys drying out on the radiator. :smilin:
I am doing so because I have a trip to Hereford on GWR to go a brother's birthday next weekend.
That will be a session. :awesome:


Have a good time. You were asking me about trains. Let me know how it went on Great Wanker Railway in the Snug.
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Re: General train talk.

Postby calitom » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:54 am

McAz wrote:
jra wrote:
McAz wrote:We use cars here - a necessity, not a choice.


Yes, we know McAz, but this is a thread about trains, not cars.

Did you read the original article I posted? It mentions how some significant rail lines were closed in the Lake District/Cumbria area.


It's relevant because it cites the lack of trains.

It's not appropriate to discuss your linked article here since it is political.


o thats rich on this forum aka trump derangement headquarters
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