Margaret Fleming.

Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:37 am

Police Scotland are continuing to dig up the garden of a vulnerable woman who hasn't been seen by anyone but her carers for 17 years.

Margaret Fleming is 36 years old and hasn't been seen in public since 1999 at a family gathering.

A woman who is friends with Margaret's carers and often visited their house and even went on holiday with them, has never met Margaret.

Edward Cairney and April Jones had been caring for Margaret since her dad died.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/292406/cops-dig-up-inverkip-garden-of-missing-margaret-fleming-as-it-emerges-family-havent-seen-her-for-17-years/
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:39 am

Reading between the lines.

I reckon these two murdered Margaret years ago and have been pocketing the Carers Allowance.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:42 am

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This is the interview with the woman who is friends with the couple.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/margaret-fleming-mystery-close-pal-9453145
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby PinkSmurf » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:18 pm

Terrible. I've read other stories about so called carers abusing vulnerable people and have experienced it personally. There was one elderly woman who was force fed talc while in bed at home. Her family put a camera in her room but the carers still got off lightly.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby PinkSmurf » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:30 pm

I think they only reported her missing because of new benefit rules and going from DLA to PIP and the face to face interviews that go with it. I agree they've probably been taking her money and getting other money from the DWP for years.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:18 am

Margaret Fleming was only reported missing after benefits staff went to her carers home to visit her.

The Department Of Work and pensions had paid out thousands of pounds to Margaret over the years, but after receiving an application for more money, they decided to go and speak to her.

The house was described as being "Vomit Inducing"

I'm telling you, these two murdered Margaret years ago.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/vanished-margaret-fleming-only-reported-9466357
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:19 am

The house Margaret was supposed to be living in.

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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby PinkSmurf » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:58 pm

Victoria wrote:Margaret Fleming was only reported missing after benefits staff went to her carers home to visit her.

The Department Of Work and pensions had paid out thousands of pounds to Margaret over the years, but after receiving an application for more money, they decided to go and speak to her.

The house was described as being "Vomit Inducing"

I'm telling you, these two murdered Margaret years ago.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/vanished-margaret-fleming-only-reported-9466357

I agree. They will have killed her many years ago and have been taking money meant for her plus the money carers get. What a pair of callous bastard scumbags. I hope they don't get away with it. They deserve life in jail. I believe the police will find her body. Poor woman. I wonder how many others have suffered at the hands of so called carers.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby PinkSmurf » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:00 pm

What's the longest sentence they could get in Scotland?
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:22 pm

PinkSmurf wrote:What's the longest sentence they could get in Scotland?


They can't get a whole life tariff, but they could get sentences that would make being released highly unlikely.

Angus Sinclair is one case that springs to mind, he'll be a 106 before he can apply for parole.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:29 pm

Actually the 37 year sentence given to Angus Sinclair was the longest sentence ever handed down by a Judge in Scotland.

Sinclair is a monster.

http://murderpedia.org/male.S/s/sinclair-angus.htm
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:42 am

Eddie Cairney and Avril Jones have been charged with Margaret Fleming's murder.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:41 pm

Eddie Cairney and Avril Jones have appeared in court charged with murder, fraud, abduction and assault.

It's alleged the two of them murdered Margaret in January 2000.

The court heard that between November 1997 and January 2000, they kept Margaret tied up in a bedroom and collected her benefits money.

It's believed they murdered Margaret by inflicting blunt force injury on her by means currently unknown.

The Sheriff denied the pair bail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5057283/Carers-woman-not-seen-1999-accused-murder.html
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:56 am

Of course having a murder trial without a body can be difficult, but I can think of at least two cases when people have been convicted of murder in Scotland without a body.

Nat Fraser was convicted of killing his wife Arlene and Andrew Hunter was convicted of killing his wife Linda.

Andrew Hunter even went on Crimewatch, asking the public for help in finding his missing wife.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Guest » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:21 am

They should throw away the key. These cruel bastards had her tied up for two months before killing that poor vulnerable women. Whole life tariff for these two inhumane cunts, nothing less.
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