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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:46 pm

Another damning case of government-industry knowledge about a vaccine-autism connection is a leaked December 16, 2011 document from GlaxoSmithKline, one of the world’s largest vaccine manufacturers. The text admits the corporation has been aware of the autistic risks associated with its Infanrix vaccine, which combines diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis, hepatitis B, inactivated polio and haemophilus influenza viruses. The report details adverse effects associated with autism, including encephalitis, developmental delays, altered states of consciousness, speech delays and other adverse reactions.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/new-vaccin ... it/5573951
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:48 pm

Loads of links here ..........

VACCINES and AUTISM

https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C1 ... 4ldpikfXy4
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Stooo » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:55 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Loads of links here ..........

VACCINES and AUTISM

https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C1 ... 4ldpikfXy4


Give it up Jack, anti-vaxers are on the same level as homoeopaths... :roll:
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Kizzie » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:27 pm

I'm not one for flogging a dead horse most people don't see these things until it's affected them.
I was once the same as those who roll their eyes but now my eyes are opened. I had an ex who was always banging on about antibiotics being a cause of ill health. Laughed at him took so little notice of what he said that I became a victim of very ill health due to antibiotics. And its only through looking into Alt health that I cured myself but it made me look deeper.

I know those here won't read the links or watch the videos I posted, but if I didn't try I will feel even worse. but if I cannot convince my own daughter who will not use toothpaste with fluoride, any supermarket shampoos, soaps, everything has to be clean and organic same with their food, that vaccines are damaging our children, then I'm not going to convince anyone.

Maybe I pushed too hard although I don't feel I pushed at (maybe others did) all. I only bought her a book and asked her to please read it for me it was not anti-vax it was how to fully prepare your child's immune system before they have their vaccinations and how to have those vaccinations done I know she didn't if she had she would not have had that many injections together or so young.

Anway once again for those thinking about having a baby or who have just had a baby or people becoming grandparents, just watch these videos. It's not been done by quacks but people who are medically trained or legal trained who once thought vaccines safe. It's not anti-vax but anti unsafe vaccinations.







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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Stooo » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:34 pm

Measles has been scientifically proven to give people brain damage and blindness, snake oil is bullshit.

Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine.

If you want to risk your own kids and grandkids that's down to you but keep them away from mine. I don't want my extended family to be at risk from life changing and preventable diseases TVM.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Kizzie » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:53 pm

Stooo wrote:Measles has been scientifically proven to give people brain damage and blindness, snake oil is bullshit.

Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine.

If you want to risk your own kids and grandkids that's down to you but keep them away from mine. I don't want my extended family to be at risk from life changing and preventable diseases TVM.


All my kids and grandkids are vaccinated. I'm not anti vax, but see that never goes into people's head when they read my posts. oh, you have questions and doubts? You are a anti-vaxxer and I refuse to read or look any further.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Stooo » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:15 pm

Feline wrote:
Stooo wrote:Measles has been scientifically proven to give people brain damage and blindness, snake oil is bullshit.

Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine.

If you want to risk your own kids and grandkids that's down to you but keep them away from mine. I don't want my extended family to be at risk from life changing and preventable diseases TVM.


All my kids and grandkids are vaccinated. I'm not anti vax, but see that never goes into people's head when they read my posts. oh, you have questions and doubts? You are a anti-vaxxer and I refuse to read or look any further.


My youngest has been type 1 diabetic since he was three and has been fully vaccinated from his early days. I fail to see any correlation between vaxing and his disorder, faulty genes are possibly my fault but I'd rather have him as he is rather than disabled by a treatable illness.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:36 pm

Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Loads of links here ..........

VACCINES and AUTISM

https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C1 ... 4ldpikfXy4


Give it up Jack, anti-vaxers are on the same level as homoeopaths... :roll:

I'm not anti vax though.
I'm pro safe vax.
Have you watched any of the senate hearings?
Where experts under oath say they down't and won't let their own kids have todays vaccines.
You haven't read the inserts you haven't done any research you just believe.
Funny how people are fussy about what ingredients are in their food but turn a blind eye to what is injected into them.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:23 pm

60 Lab Studies Now Confirm Cancer Link to a Vaccine You Probably Had as a Child

The International Medical Council on Vaccination
I had a new patient today, a 10 month old baby- the mother was totally pro vaccine, had no issues with it. I asked if she noticed any reactions, she announced – “She had the Rotavirus vaccine, the next day her poo was green and slimy, the day after she was bleeding from the anus”……it amazed me that parents are so indoctrinated to be pro vaccine they ignore massive red flags like this.
http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/ ... s-a-child/
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:24 pm

Feline wrote:I'm not one for flogging a dead horse most people don't see these things until it's affected them.
I was once the same as those who roll their eyes but now my eyes are opened. I had an ex who was always banging on about antibiotics being a cause of ill health. Laughed at him took so little notice of what he said that I became a victim of very ill health due to antibiotics. And its only through looking into Alt health that I cured myself but it made me look deeper.

I know those here won't read the links or watch the videos I posted, but if I didn't try I will feel even worse. but if I cannot convince my own daughter who will not use toothpaste with fluoride, any supermarket shampoos, soaps, everything has to be clean and organic same with their food, that vaccines are damaging our children, then I'm not going to convince anyone.

Maybe I pushed too hard although I don't feel I pushed at (maybe others did) all. I only bought her a book and asked her to please read it for me it was not anti-vax it was how to fully prepare your child's immune system before they have their vaccinations and how to have those vaccinations done I know she didn't if she had she would not have had that many injections together or so young.

Anway once again for those thinking about having a baby or who have just had a baby or people becoming grandparents, just watch these videos. It's not been done by quacks but people who are medically trained or legal trained who once thought vaccines safe. It's not anti-vax but anti unsafe vaccinations.



excuse me but what business is it of grandparents if children are vaccinated? grandparents have no legal rights & can butt the f**k out of telling parents not to vaxx because of scaremongers like you. wind your neck in ffs.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:15 pm

My interest in all of this was sparked by being told my T2 diabetes was probably set off by taking statins for around a year.
I tried 3 different kinds.
Some people have no problem with them but I had huge hospitalization issues with them and had to stop taking them.
Still left with T2 though.
Or am I?
I like to think I beat T2 diabetes by the research and effort I put in but I may have just helped in speeding up a healing process that started once I quit the statins.
I eat more or less normally now and to the amazement of my surgery team I keep showing as none diabetic.
Was it just the low carb high fat diet or was it the cessation of the statins more than anything.
I'll probably never know.
I carried out some work for a local council that was disgusting but I had the experience the willingness the paper work the licenses etc.
This was before the T2 and the tumours on my spinal cord problems.
When my doc heard what I was about to do she demaded I have a mass of vaccinations all at once in her office.
Diptheria Hep polio tetanus and others I can't remember just now.
First adverse affect was a collapsed right shoulder.
Shoulder still worked but drooped to chest level and below ... that was a reaction to the tetanus vaccine.
That's okay now.
Within a year my health was going down hill fast.
Every blood test showed massive inflamation in my body which was unidentified.
The readings got worse by the month.
My spinal cord is riddled with tumours and I have demylenation on some nerves.
I was forced into early retirement.
Impossible to identify what went wrong and why.
What it taught me was that all western medicine is frought with toxic danger.
The crap I take now is highly toxic and I've gotten it down to the bare minimum.
I discovered that vaccines are as toxic and risky as the pills and caps.
Being a vaccine doesn't make it magically safe and to think otherwise defies logic science and common sense.
All vaccines are toxic and carry dangers.
People have to way up which is the biggest threat the vaccine or the disease that might one day threaten you.
Trouble is the public cannot make an informed decision because without research they do not have the information to make an informed decision.
Just ask to read the insert that alone can be an eye opener.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Kizzie » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:27 am

Guest wrote:
Feline wrote:I'm not one for flogging a dead horse most people don't see these things until it's affected them.
I was once the same as those who roll their eyes but now my eyes are opened. I had an ex who was always banging on about antibiotics being a cause of ill health. Laughed at him took so little notice of what he said that I became a victim of very ill health due to antibiotics. And its only through looking into Alt health that I cured myself but it made me look deeper.

I know those here won't read the links or watch the videos I posted, but if I didn't try I will feel even worse. but if I cannot convince my own daughter who will not use toothpaste with fluoride, any supermarket shampoos, soaps, everything has to be clean and organic same with their food, that vaccines are damaging our children, then I'm not going to convince anyone.

Maybe I pushed too hard although I don't feel I pushed at (maybe others did) all. I only bought her a book and asked her to please read it for me it was not anti-vax it was how to fully prepare your child's immune system before they have their vaccinations and how to have those vaccinations done I know she didn't if she had she would not have had that many injections together or so young.

Anway once again for those thinking about having a baby or who have just had a baby or people becoming grandparents, just watch these videos. It's not been done by quacks but people who are medically trained or legal trained who once thought vaccines safe. It's not anti-vax but anti unsafe vaccinations.



excuse me but what business is it of grandparents if children are vaccinated? grandparents have no legal rights & can butt the f**k out of telling parents not to vaxx because of scaremongers like you. wind your neck in ffs.



Fuck off and learn to read and take info in.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Guest » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:03 am

Feline wrote:
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Feline wrote:I'm not one for flogging a dead horse most people don't see these things until it's affected them.
I was once the same as those who roll their eyes but now my eyes are opened. I had an ex who was always banging on about antibiotics being a cause of ill health. Laughed at him took so little notice of what he said that I became a victim of very ill health due to antibiotics. And its only through looking into Alt health that I cured myself but it made me look deeper.

I know those here won't read the links or watch the videos I posted, but if I didn't try I will feel even worse. but if I cannot convince my own daughter who will not use toothpaste with fluoride, any supermarket shampoos, soaps, everything has to be clean and organic same with their food, that vaccines are damaging our children, then I'm not going to convince anyone.

Maybe I pushed too hard although I don't feel I pushed at (maybe others did) all. I only bought her a book and asked her to please read it for me it was not anti-vax it was how to fully prepare your child's immune system before they have their vaccinations and how to have those vaccinations done I know she didn't if she had she would not have had that many injections together or so young.

Anway once again for those thinking about having a baby or who have just had a baby or people becoming grandparents, just watch these videos. It's not been done by quacks but people who are medically trained or legal trained who once thought vaccines safe. It's not anti-vax but anti unsafe vaccinations.



excuse me but what business is it of grandparents if children are vaccinated? grandparents have no legal rights & can butt the f**k out of telling parents not to vaxx because of scaremongers like you. wind your neck in ffs.



Fuck off and learn to read and take info in.


yes that's all very nice & well done for using big words but you still haven't said what it is you expect grandparents to do.

you never convert people by telling them to fuck off btw, it just makes you look stupid.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Kizzie » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:23 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:My interest in all of this was sparked by being told my T2 diabetes was probably set off by taking statins for around a year.
I tried 3 different kinds.
Some people have no problem with them but I had huge hospitalization issues with them and had to stop taking them.
Still left with T2 though.
Or am I?
I like to think I beat T2 diabetes by the research and effort I put in but I may have just helped in speeding up a healing process that started once I quit the statins.
I eat more or less normally now and to the amazement of my surgery team I keep showing as none diabetic.
Was it just the low carb high fat diet or was it the cessation of the statins more than anything.
I'll probably never know.
I carried out some work for a local council that was disgusting but I had the experience the willingness the paper work the licenses etc.
This was before the T2 and the tumours on my spinal cord problems.
When my doc heard what I was about to do she demaded I have a mass of vaccinations all at once in her office.
Diptheria Hep polio tetanus and others I can't remember just now.
First adverse affect was a collapsed right shoulder.
Shoulder still worked but drooped to chest level and below ... that was a reaction to the tetanus vaccine.
That's okay now.
Within a year my health was going down hill fast.
Every blood test showed massive inflamation in my body which was unidentified.
The readings got worse by the month.
My spinal cord is riddled with tumours and I have demylenation on some nerves.
I was forced into early retirement.
Impossible to identify what went wrong and why.
What it taught me was that all western medicine is frought with toxic danger.
The crap I take now is highly toxic and I've gotten it down to the bare minimum.
I discovered that vaccines are as toxic and risky as the pills and caps.
Being a vaccine doesn't make it magically safe and to think otherwise defies logic science and common sense.
All vaccines are toxic and carry dangers.
People have to way up which is the biggest threat the vaccine or the disease that might one day threaten you.
Trouble is the public cannot make an informed decision because without research they do not have the information to make an informed decision.
Just ask to read the insert that alone can be an eye opener.



My heart goes out to you. I have heared so many stories like yours and like mine, as well as 100 of others as you probably have as well, once you see the truth of you join groups and disscusions about alt medicine ( No Stooo you won't find this medicine that works on your GP list or in the pharmacy, many years ago you would, but not enough money in it for today's medicine )

I bet like me, before this happened you just followed your GP's or consultant instructions, they know best after all. even when we think, hold on you just contradicted yourself but let's not make a fuss.
GPs and specialists don't treat the condition they treat the symptoms and the pills create more symptoms that they either give you more pills for or they send you to yet another consultant specialist to treat those symptoms and so you are diagnosed with yet another condition. This is how it went for me.

I thought shit, I'm dying im just getting sicker by the day I had been diagnosed with many autoimmune diseases every time I went to the hospital I was told I had another one and given more pills and inhalers. I was on so many pills and inhalers they filled two carrier bags every mth. :yikes:

Now if only GPs and specialists did a little research they would have known that antibiotics kill the good your body needs as well as the bad that it doesn't if they know that, then they could have advised me how to heal my gut with a few simple steps and my problems would have stopped there and then.
But funnily enough, the medical world says there is no such thing as leaky gut. But it's what I researched after stumbling on it and found my own cure.
The Alt medical profession not only knows about leaky gut they also know that all good and bad health starts in the guts. The info is all out there and its free.

Im ok now but fine tuning as have nerve and joint damage left over from that time. Its very interesting treatment and with something we have been taught for many years to believe is very toxic, in fact, its something that was used for 1000s of years to treat many things. even in my childhood, it was used by the elderly but that ase knowledge has been pushed out.

firstly its stopped my sugar cravings in their tracks and another effect that I have not yet seen anyone else talk about but going to look into it today, I had many floaters in my eyes and even see them with open eyes and they got worse every year, Drs say they are mainly age related but you can have laser surgery to help lessen them. They vanished on the first day. I am very intrigued, today is day 4 of this treatment I feel calm without the normal anxiety, my joint pain is less. I will carry on and see what happens and then I have two other treatments to try.

I also eat a high fat very low carb diet, not for diabetes but for depression, I keep myself in ketosis, it's not easy when you are addicted to sugar and so very happy that this treatment so far has stopped the cravings I get at certain times. But it's early days and just might be a fluke.

If you want to help those tumours go back to eating a diet without sugar or grains.

I wish you luck on your journey and if there is anything I can do to help just ask.
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Re: My 7 week old grandaughter just had 8 vaccinations :(

Postby Kizzie » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:25 am

Guest wrote:
Feline wrote:
Guest wrote:
Feline wrote:I'm not one for flogging a dead horse most people don't see these things until it's affected them.
I was once the same as those who roll their eyes but now my eyes are opened. I had an ex who was always banging on about antibiotics being a cause of ill health. Laughed at him took so little notice of what he said that I became a victim of very ill health due to antibiotics. And its only through looking into Alt health that I cured myself but it made me look deeper.

I know those here won't read the links or watch the videos I posted, but if I didn't try I will feel even worse. but if I cannot convince my own daughter who will not use toothpaste with fluoride, any supermarket shampoos, soaps, everything has to be clean and organic same with their food, that vaccines are damaging our children, then I'm not going to convince anyone.

Maybe I pushed too hard although I don't feel I pushed at (maybe others did) all. I only bought her a book and asked her to please read it for me it was not anti-vax it was how to fully prepare your child's immune system before they have their vaccinations and how to have those vaccinations done I know she didn't if she had she would not have had that many injections together or so young.

Anway once again for those thinking about having a baby or who have just had a baby or people becoming grandparents, just watch these videos. It's not been done by quacks but people who are medically trained or legal trained who once thought vaccines safe. It's not anti-vax but anti unsafe vaccinations.



excuse me but what business is it of grandparents if children are vaccinated? grandparents have no legal rights & can butt the f**k out of telling parents not to vaxx because of scaremongers like you. wind your neck in ffs.



Fuck off and learn to read and take info in.


yes that's all very nice & well done for using big words but you still haven't said what it is you expect grandparents to do.

you never convert people by telling them to fuck off btw, it just makes you look stupid.


I dont want to convert that guest if its ok with you.
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