Jon Venables.

Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Lady Murasaki » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:01 pm

That doesn't mean a chef will kill you ceno.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Keyser » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:24 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:That doesn't mean a chef will kill you ceno.


I know.

Over one in a hundred people is a psychopath and very few become killers - although they are superficially charming, 'popular', highly manipulative and often subtly destroy people/rivals in order to get get to the top of their chosen profession.

If they all became murderers the world would be in an even bigger mess than it already is.

It's remarkable how easily they pull the wool over people's eyes.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Lambert » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:43 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:^^to both guest and Lamby, I'm not saying psychopathy is a bad thing because everyone has the potential to do harm
Is it the psychopathy part that makes them driven or is that the part that makes them commit the crime?
I agree being cold can be an advantage in certain areas of life but to be so cold that you would murder another is the part that could be 'tweaked', surely?
Lamby, you have written them off but you don't know about how successfully some have been 'tweaked' to be less murderous because there's no statistical evidence for it. ie. A crime was not committed.


It's not that I've written them off. I'm just telling you that you can't turn a psychopath into a non-psychopath. Remember, 'psychopath' is not a medical diagnosis. The term refers to a specific collection of personality traits. Someone who exhibits psychopathic behaviour could most likely be diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder, which is kind of, but not quite, the 'official' medical diagnosis for psychopathy. A diagnosis of ASPD requires a history of antisocial and/or criminal behaviour. Where I agree is that behaviour can possibly be altered via therapy, but that's not the same as turning someone into a non-psychopath.

By the way, here's an interesting little test for people to take. It's called the Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale, and is considered a fairly decent measurement of someone's psychopathic traits: https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/LSRP.php
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Stooo » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:10 pm

Lambert wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:^^to both guest and Lamby, I'm not saying psychopathy is a bad thing because everyone has the potential to do harm
Is it the psychopathy part that makes them driven or is that the part that makes them commit the crime?
I agree being cold can be an advantage in certain areas of life but to be so cold that you would murder another is the part that could be 'tweaked', surely?
Lamby, you have written them off but you don't know about how successfully some have been 'tweaked' to be less murderous because there's no statistical evidence for it. ie. A crime was not committed.


It's not that I've written them off. I'm just telling you that you can't turn a psychopath into a non-psychopath. Remember, 'psychopath' is not a medical diagnosis. The term refers to a specific collection of personality traits. Someone who exhibits psychopathic behaviour could most likely be diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder, which is kind of, but not quite, the 'official' medical diagnosis for psychopathy. A diagnosis of ASPD requires a history of antisocial and/or criminal behaviour. Where I agree is that behaviour can possibly be altered via therapy, but that's not the same as turning someone into a non-psychopath.

By the way, here's an interesting little test for people to take. It's called the Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale, and is considered a fairly decent measurement of someone's psychopathic traits: https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/LSRP.php


Fuck, I always fill those damn things in, let's see...

You have completed the Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale.

The LSRP measures two scales.

Scores range from 1 (low) to 5 (high).

Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 1.8. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.

Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.5. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.

You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 35.37% of people who have taken this test.

You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 49.13% of people who have taken this test.


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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Keyser » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:42 pm

Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 5.0. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.

Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 5.0. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behaviour.

You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 99.99% of people who have taken this test.

You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 99.99% of people who have taken this test. :trollface:

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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Major » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:37 pm

Slapper, scrounging singul mothers who breed this type of scum with every Tom, Dick and Abdul and do not or will not name the fathers are responsible for a lot of crime, can you imagine the low life 'some' poor little souls may have which drives them to crime.

Before you throw ya toys outa ya pram, I AIN'T STICKING UP FOR VENABLES, just trying to edificate some of you..
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Gabby » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:47 pm

Major Starbold wrote:Slapper, scrounging singul mothers who breed this type of scum with every Tom, Dick and Abdul and do not or will not name the fathers are responsible for a lot of crime, can you imagine the low life 'some' poor little souls may have which drives them to crime.

Before you throw ya toys outa ya pram, I AIN'T STICKING UP FOR VENABLES, just trying to edificate some of you..


Do you class all single mothers as scrounging slappers??
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Stooo » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:11 pm

Poca wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:Slapper, scrounging singul mothers who breed this type of scum with every Tom, Dick and Abdul and do not or will not name the fathers are responsible for a lot of crime, can you imagine the low life 'some' poor little souls may have which drives them to crime.

Before you throw ya toys outa ya pram, I AIN'T STICKING UP FOR VENABLES, just trying to edificate some of you..


Do you class all single mothers as scrounging slappers??


Parents. :snooty:
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Guest » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:45 pm

Major Starbold wrote:Slapper, scrounging singul mothers who breed this type of scum with every Tom, Dick and Abdul and do not or will not name the fathers are responsible for a lot of crime, can you imagine the low life 'some' poor little souls may have which drives them to crime.

Before you throw ya toys outa ya pram, I AIN'T STICKING UP FOR VENABLES, just trying to edificate some of you..


So you think if they name the fathers then a lot less crime would happen? And that it is because of these absent fathers these children descend into this life of crime and all things hellish? And that these children have such a low life because the father isn't there so that crime becomes the only option? Your opinion of men seems to be at an all time low. Yes we all know that there are a lot of irresponsible men in the world and that loads of them (like you) are basically useless pieces of shit. But to blame the entire dis-functioning of a young child onto his dad hardly seems fair old chap
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Markey mark » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:45 pm

Poca wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:Slapper, scrounging singul mothers who breed this type of scum with every Tom, Dick and Abdul and do not or will not name the fathers are responsible for a lot of crime, can you imagine the low life 'some' poor little souls may have which drives them to crime.

Before you throw ya toys outa ya pram, I AIN'T STICKING UP FOR VENABLES, just trying to edificate some of you..


Do you class all single mothers as scrounging slappers??



Most around here that I know off are slappers , and most children by different fathers ,
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Guest » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:56 pm

Markey mark wrote:
Poca wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:Slapper, scrounging singul mothers who breed this type of scum with every Tom, Dick and Abdul and do not or will not name the fathers are responsible for a lot of crime, can you imagine the low life 'some' poor little souls may have which drives them to crime.

Before you throw ya toys outa ya pram, I AIN'T STICKING UP FOR VENABLES, just trying to edificate some of you..


Do you class all single mothers as scrounging slappers??



Most around here that I know off are slappers , and most children by different fathers ,


There must be an awful lot of irresponsible young men about there as well then. Young men that know that they have a baby yet decide to do fuck all about it.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby LordRaven » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:40 pm

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Jon Venables who was one of the sadistic murderers of toddler James Bulger, has been thrown back in prison.

Venables has once again been caught with child porn.

Venables along with his accomplice Robert Thompson were both freed in 2001 after serving only eight years for the horrific crime.

Venables was jailed again in 2010 for possessing indecent images of children.

Since his release, he's been given four new identities at a cost of £250,000 each time to the taxpayer.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/23/james-bulger-killer-jon-venables-back-in-jail-after-being-caught-with-abuse-images-again

Is it not about time the key was thrown away on this 35 year old man, who is clearly a serious danger to children?

And to think, instead of a grateful nation giving him a knighthood, Alan Turin was chemically castrated to the point he took a bite out of a poisoned apple to end his own life - plus he was only recently posthumously pardoned.
This odious venables should be exiled to a remote Scottish island as Crofter, all on his own I might add.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Cannydc » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:16 pm

I would much rather he were in jail - at least the rest of the population knows where he is, then.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Major » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:43 pm

Poca wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:Slapper, scrounging singul mothers who breed this type of scum with every Tom, Dick and Abdul and do not or will not name the fathers are responsible for a lot of crime, can you imagine the low life 'some' poor little souls may have which drives them to crime.

Before you throw ya toys outa ya pram, I AIN'T STICKING UP FOR VENABLES, just trying to edificate some of you..


Do you class all single mothers as scrounging slappers??


Only those who do not work, will not work, go around with their legs in the wide open position, get wee weed up, trip up men and dive under them before they hit the ground and do not use birth control then expect me to pay for their backward thinking sexual experiences and their more than likely council house uncontrollable brats.

I suppose there might be an odd one somewhere who I would not put into this class, Poca.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Alexa » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:16 pm

Major Starbold wrote:
Poca wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:Slapper, scrounging singul mothers who breed this type of scum with every Tom, Dick and Abdul and do not or will not name the fathers are responsible for a lot of crime, can you imagine the low life 'some' poor little souls may have which drives them to crime.

Before you throw ya toys outa ya pram, I AIN'T STICKING UP FOR VENABLES, just trying to edificate some of you..


Do you class all single mothers as scrounging slappers??


Only those who do not work, will not work, go around with their legs in the wide open position, get wee weed up, trip up men and dive under them before they hit the ground and do not use birth control then expect me to pay for their backward thinking sexual experiences and their more than likely council house uncontrollable brats.

I suppose there might be an odd one somewhere who I would not put into this class, Poca.



My goodness :yikes: :shake head:
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