Raggamuffin wrote:I can understand that people with mental health issue may well find it difficult to travel, but are they doing their best to overcome their issues? It's not like they're confined to a wheelchair and can't do anything about it. Psychological problems can be overcome and treated.
Guest wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I can understand that people with mental health issue may well find it difficult to travel, but are they doing their best to overcome their issues? It's not like they're confined to a wheelchair and can't do anything about it. Psychological problems can be overcome and treated.
Being confined to a wheelchair isn't often a problem these days, they have electric powered ones that enable you to go out and lead a normal life.
Stooo wrote:Guest wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I can understand that people with mental health issue may well find it difficult to travel, but are they doing their best to overcome their issues? It's not like they're confined to a wheelchair and can't do anything about it. Psychological problems can be overcome and treated.
Being confined to a wheelchair isn't often a problem these days, they have electric powered ones that enable you to go out and lead a normal life.
Apart from the walking and stuff, obviously?
Guest wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I can understand that people with mental health issue may well find it difficult to travel, but are they doing their best to overcome their issues? It's not like they're confined to a wheelchair and can't do anything about it. Psychological problems can be overcome and treated.
Being confined to a wheelchair isn't often a problem these days, they have electric powered ones that enable you to go out and lead a normal life.
Guest wrote:Stooo wrote:Guest wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I can understand that people with mental health issue may well find it difficult to travel, but are they doing their best to overcome their issues? It's not like they're confined to a wheelchair and can't do anything about it. Psychological problems can be overcome and treated.
Being confined to a wheelchair isn't often a problem these days, they have electric powered ones that enable you to go out and lead a normal life.
Apart from the walking and stuff, obviously?
Yes..but Psychological problems can't always be overcome and treated. Often the medications can cause people problems as well.
Raggamuffin wrote:Guest wrote:Stooo wrote:Guest wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I can understand that people with mental health issue may well find it difficult to travel, but are they doing their best to overcome their issues? It's not like they're confined to a wheelchair and can't do anything about it. Psychological problems can be overcome and treated.
Being confined to a wheelchair isn't often a problem these days, they have electric powered ones that enable you to go out and lead a normal life.
Apart from the walking and stuff, obviously?
Yes..but Psychological problems can't always be overcome and treated. Often the medications can cause people problems as well.
I agree, but still an effort should be made. If a person with such problems just gets money to stay at home, they have no incentive to try to improve their problems. Medication can cause some side effects, but they can also be very effective, as can counselling.
Guest wrote:
Every effort should be made if the individual feels up to it, they shouldn't be forced though and they are almost certainly going to be in the esa support group where there is no requirement to attend sessions etc anyway.
Raggamuffin wrote:Guest wrote:
Every effort should be made if the individual feels up to it, they shouldn't be forced though and they are almost certainly going to be in the esa support group where there is no requirement to attend sessions etc anyway.
In order to claim PIP, they must have been affected for three months - three months where they could have asked for help and treatment. PIP is supposed to help with extra expenses for those who have disabilities, it's not supposed to be for normal living expenses. What extra expenses would such a person have? They might also be getting ESA, so they're not going to be destitute.
With any chronic illess or condition, if it can be treated and/or controlled, is it not reasonable to expect someone to try to lessen the problem so that they don't need these benefits?
Guest wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:Guest wrote:
Every effort should be made if the individual feels up to it, they shouldn't be forced though and they are almost certainly going to be in the esa support group where there is no requirement to attend sessions etc anyway.
In order to claim PIP, they must have been affected for three months - three months where they could have asked for help and treatment. PIP is supposed to help with extra expenses for those who have disabilities, it's not supposed to be for normal living expenses. What extra expenses would such a person have? They might also be getting ESA, so they're not going to be destitute.
With any chronic illess or condition, if it can be treated and/or controlled, is it not reasonable to expect someone to try to lessen the problem so that they don't need these benefits?
The extra expenses would probably be taxis or mini cabs so that they can get about more as social anxieties would mean that they are unable to travel on public forms of transport.
They would have already tried treatments as to qualify for PIP they would need to show medical evidence and a history that they are in need of it.
Raggamuffin wrote:Guest wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:Guest wrote:
Every effort should be made if the individual feels up to it, they shouldn't be forced though and they are almost certainly going to be in the esa support group where there is no requirement to attend sessions etc anyway.
In order to claim PIP, they must have been affected for three months - three months where they could have asked for help and treatment. PIP is supposed to help with extra expenses for those who have disabilities, it's not supposed to be for normal living expenses. What extra expenses would such a person have? They might also be getting ESA, so they're not going to be destitute.
With any chronic illess or condition, if it can be treated and/or controlled, is it not reasonable to expect someone to try to lessen the problem so that they don't need these benefits?
The extra expenses would probably be taxis or mini cabs so that they can get about more as social anxieties would mean that they are unable to travel on public forms of transport.
They would have already tried treatments as to qualify for PIP they would need to show medical evidence and a history that they are in need of it.
First bit - isn't that just compounding the problem though rather than helping it? They are being encouraged to carry on with their anxiety by getting money in order to do so.
I don't think they need to have tried treatment, they just need a diagnosis, and an indication of how severe their problem is. That's not the same as having treatment. There are also physical conditions which can be debilitating but can be eased or modified via drugs.
Stooo wrote:Guest wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I can understand that people with mental health issue may well find it difficult to travel, but are they doing their best to overcome their issues? It's not like they're confined to a wheelchair and can't do anything about it. Psychological problems can be overcome and treated.
Being confined to a wheelchair isn't often a problem these days, they have electric powered ones that enable you to go out and lead a normal life.
Apart from the walking and stuff, obviously?
Raggamuffin wrote:Guest wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:Guest wrote:
Every effort should be made if the individual feels up to it, they shouldn't be forced though and they are almost certainly going to be in the esa support group where there is no requirement to attend sessions etc anyway.
In order to claim PIP, they must have been affected for three months - three months where they could have asked for help and treatment. PIP is supposed to help with extra expenses for those who have disabilities, it's not supposed to be for normal living expenses. What extra expenses would such a person have? They might also be getting ESA, so they're not going to be destitute.
With any chronic illess or condition, if it can be treated and/or controlled, is it not reasonable to expect someone to try to lessen the problem so that they don't need these benefits?
The extra expenses would probably be taxis or mini cabs so that they can get about more as social anxieties would mean that they are unable to travel on public forms of transport.
They would have already tried treatments as to qualify for PIP they would need to show medical evidence and a history that they are in need of it.
First bit - isn't that just compounding the problem though rather than helping it? They are being encouraged to carry on with their anxiety by getting money in order to do so.
I don't think they need to have tried treatment, they just need a diagnosis, and an indication of how severe their problem is. That's not the same as having treatment. There are also physical conditions which can be debilitating but can be eased or modified via drugs.
Guest wrote:Stooo wrote:Guest wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:I can understand that people with mental health issue may well find it difficult to travel, but are they doing their best to overcome their issues? It's not like they're confined to a wheelchair and can't do anything about it. Psychological problems can be overcome and treated.
Being confined to a wheelchair isn't often a problem these days, they have electric powered ones that enable you to go out and lead a normal life.
Apart from the walking and stuff, obviously?
Why some people in wheelchairs even win medals at sports events.
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