Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby McAz » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:03 pm

Are you sure you meant it that way round? :dunno:
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby Stooo » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:31 pm

McAz wrote:Are you sure you meant it that way round? :dunno:


Cheers.

The people slagging Clegg off are obviously the one's who would rather he had sided with Labour at the time to make a minority government in the middle of the biggest economic disaster to strike the Western World. Rounding off the biggest excesses of the Tories and introducing things such as the pupil premium, gay marriage, raising the tax threshold for low earners, etc in the middle of huge turmoil for the country.

But he and the Party will be vilified by Corbyn because of that decision, I caught plenty of the barbs during the run up to the election. Tuition fees are big news in my household but so is the knowledge that Labour introduced them and the tories increased them. The LDs said that they wouldn't increase them if elected and they weren't elected. Please remind me of the tory promises during the last election, death taxes etc.

Clegg actually earned this Honour (if it's true) rather than being a master barber or a financial contributor to the party in power, things would have turned out far worse for us if he didn't fall on his sword at the time.
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:43 pm

Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:Are you sure you meant it that way round? :dunno:


Cheers.

The people slagging Clegg off are obviously the one's who would rather he had sided with Labour at the time to make a minority government in the middle of the biggest economic disaster to strike the Western World. Rounding off the biggest excesses of the Tories and introducing things such as the pupil premium, gay marriage, raising the tax threshold for low earners, etc in the middle of huge turmoil for the country.

But he and the Party will be vilified by Corbyn because of that decision, I caught plenty of the barbs during the run up to the election. Tuition fees are big news in my household but so is the knowledge that Labour introduced them and the tories increased them. The LDs said that they wouldn't increase them if elected and they weren't elected. Please remind me of the tory promises during the last election, death taxes etc.

Clegg actually earned this Honour (if it's true) rather than being a master barber or a financial contributor to the party in power, things would have turned out far worse for us if he didn't fall on his sword at the time.

If he'd formed a government with Labour we might he avoided austerity politics on such a scale thereby enabling the then 3% economic growth we were then experiencing to partly stay intact.
Money would have been borrowed for infrastructure/housing spending.
The money would have been borrowed at the lowest interest rates possible and the tax take would have risen.
Tackling tax avoidance would have been different to pay toward all the damage done to our economy.
We could have hundreds of thousands of council houses better roads a still state run NHS and the deb not having been doubled for no benefit to the country and the Libs may well have been the next government after that one.
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby Stooo » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:51 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:Are you sure you meant it that way round? :dunno:


Cheers.

The people slagging Clegg off are obviously the one's who would rather he had sided with Labour at the time to make a minority government in the middle of the biggest economic disaster to strike the Western World. Rounding off the biggest excesses of the Tories and introducing things such as the pupil premium, gay marriage, raising the tax threshold for low earners, etc in the middle of huge turmoil for the country.

But he and the Party will be vilified by Corbyn because of that decision, I caught plenty of the barbs during the run up to the election. Tuition fees are big news in my household but so is the knowledge that Labour introduced them and the tories increased them. The LDs said that they wouldn't increase them if elected and they weren't elected. Please remind me of the tory promises during the last election, death taxes etc.

Clegg actually earned this Honour (if it's true) rather than being a master barber or a financial contributor to the party in power, things would have turned out far worse for us if he didn't fall on his sword at the time.

If he'd formed a government with Labour we might he avoided austerity politics on such a scale thereby enabling the then 3% economic growth we were then experiencing to partly stay intact.
Money would have been borrowed for infrastructure/housing spending.
The money would have been borrowed at the lowest interest rates possible and the tax take would have risen.
Tackling tax avoidance would have been different to pay toward all the damage done to our economy.
We could have hundreds of thousands of council houses better roads a still state run NHS and the deb not having been doubled for no benefit to the country and the Libs may well have been the next government after that one.


Where would you borrow money from and at what rate of interest during a global financial crisis?
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:58 pm

Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:Are you sure you meant it that way round? :dunno:


Cheers.

The people slagging Clegg off are obviously the one's who would rather he had sided with Labour at the time to make a minority government in the middle of the biggest economic disaster to strike the Western World. Rounding off the biggest excesses of the Tories and introducing things such as the pupil premium, gay marriage, raising the tax threshold for low earners, etc in the middle of huge turmoil for the country.

But he and the Party will be vilified by Corbyn because of that decision, I caught plenty of the barbs during the run up to the election. Tuition fees are big news in my household but so is the knowledge that Labour introduced them and the tories increased them. The LDs said that they wouldn't increase them if elected and they weren't elected. Please remind me of the tory promises during the last election, death taxes etc.

Clegg actually earned this Honour (if it's true) rather than being a master barber or a financial contributor to the party in power, things would have turned out far worse for us if he didn't fall on his sword at the time.

If he'd formed a government with Labour we might he avoided austerity politics on such a scale thereby enabling the then 3% economic growth we were then experiencing to partly stay intact.
Money would have been borrowed for infrastructure/housing spending.
The money would have been borrowed at the lowest interest rates possible and the tax take would have risen.
Tackling tax avoidance would have been different to pay toward all the damage done to our economy.
We could have hundreds of thousands of council houses better roads a still state run NHS and the deb not having been doubled for no benefit to the country and the Libs may well have been the next government after that one.


Where would you borrow money from and at what rate of interest during a global financial crisis?

The Tories have had no problem borrowing it have they?
Not all countries went the austerity road and the banks were still lending it's how they make money and they were suddenly awash with the stuff.
The interest rates globally were especially low and lending to a country that had a 3% growth rate solidly running at that point wul have been attractive.
We till had a gold plated credit rating back then Of course I would be wanting the government to declare they were going to create the money themselves interest free but none have the bottle.
I think Hitler was the last westerner to pull that one off.
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby McAz » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:59 pm

Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:Are you sure you meant it that way round? :dunno:


Cheers.

The people slagging Clegg off are obviously the one's who would rather he had sided with Labour at the time to make a minority government in the middle of the biggest economic disaster to strike the Western World. Rounding off the biggest excesses of the Tories and introducing things such as the pupil premium, gay marriage, raising the tax threshold for low earners, etc in the middle of huge turmoil for the country.

But he and the Party will be vilified by Corbyn because of that decision, I caught plenty of the barbs during the run up to the election. Tuition fees are big news in my household but so is the knowledge that Labour introduced them and the tories increased them. The LDs said that they wouldn't increase them if elected and they weren't elected. Please remind me of the tory promises during the last election, death taxes etc.

Clegg actually earned this Honour (if it's true) rather than being a master barber or a financial contributor to the party in power, things would have turned out far worse for us if he didn't fall on his sword at the time.

If he'd formed a government with Labour we might he avoided austerity politics on such a scale thereby enabling the then 3% economic growth we were then experiencing to partly stay intact.
Money would have been borrowed for infrastructure/housing spending.
The money would have been borrowed at the lowest interest rates possible and the tax take would have risen.
Tackling tax avoidance would have been different to pay toward all the damage done to our economy.
We could have hundreds of thousands of council houses better roads a still state run NHS and the deb not having been doubled for no benefit to the country and the Libs may well have been the next government after that one.


Where would you borrow money from and at what rate of interest during a global financial crisis?


Where did the Tories borrow it from to fund increased inequity?
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby Stooo » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:01 pm

McAz wrote:
Where did the Tories borrow it from to fund increased inequity?


Do tell :dunno:
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:02 pm

Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:
Where did the Tories borrow it from to fund increased inequity?


Do tell :dunno:

The banks?
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby Stooo » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:06 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:
Where did the Tories borrow it from to fund increased inequity?


Do tell :dunno:

The banks?


They paid off the banks.
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby McAz » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:11 pm

Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:
Where did the Tories borrow it from to fund increased inequity?


Do tell :dunno:

The banks?


They paid off the banks.


The government borrows by issuing bonds, securities etc which are bought by the private sector, the exception being quantative easing - you know that, so why the question? :dunno:

There were political reasons why Clegg could not go with Labour - please don't kid yourself that going with the Tories was the best choice for the country or its people.
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby Stooo » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:19 pm

McAz wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:
Where did the Tories borrow it from to fund increased inequity?


Do tell :dunno:

The banks?


They paid off the banks.


The government borrows by issuing bonds, securities etc which are bought by the private sector, the exception being quantative easing - you know that, so why the question? :dunno:

There were political reasons why Clegg could not go with Labour - please don't kid yourself that going with the Tories was the best choice for the country or its people.


As a party the LDs are left of centre, far more than Labour during the coalition years. Of course it was political and of course it was for the country.
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby McAz » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:22 pm

Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:The government borrows by issuing bonds, securities etc which are bought by the private sector, the exception being quantative easing - you know that, so why the question? :dunno:

There were political reasons why Clegg could not go with Labour - please don't kid yourself that going with the Tories was the best choice for the country or its people.


As a party the LDs are left of centre, far more than Labour during the coalition years. Of course it was political and of course it was for the country.


I said "best choice for the country" - it was not - arguably we wouldn't have Brexit for a start. An argument can be made that going with Labour was not really politically acceptable - if I was a LD I'd content myself with that rather than attempting to rewrite history.

I agree with you that the LDs can be more left than Labour - but that's not a factor here.
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby Viper » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:16 am

McAz wrote:
Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:The government borrows by issuing bonds, securities etc which are bought by the private sector, the exception being quantative easing - you know that, so why the question? :dunno:

There were political reasons why Clegg could not go with Labour - please don't kid yourself that going with the Tories was the best choice for the country or its people.


As a party the LDs are left of centre, far more than Labour during the coalition years. Of course it was political and of course it was for the country.


I said "best choice for the country" - it was not - arguably we wouldn't have Brexit for a start. An argument can be made that going with Labour was not really politically acceptable - if I was a LD I'd content myself with that rather than attempting to rewrite history.

I agree with you that the LDs can be more left than Labour - but that's not a factor here.


Lol. Labour shitey shambles they were/are did not have the foresight to develop a coalition agreement.

Conservatives by virtue of being scientifically cleverer did.

Tbf im just poking clegg. He has my admiration for coalition. His brexit stuff is bs though obvs and a waste of his time.

But compared on an avhievement basis alone farage is premiership clegg is conference.
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Re: Should Nigel Farage be knighted?

Postby McAz » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:32 pm

Viper wrote:
McAz wrote:
Stooo wrote:
McAz wrote:The government borrows by issuing bonds, securities etc which are bought by the private sector, the exception being quantative easing - you know that, so why the question? :dunno:

There were political reasons why Clegg could not go with Labour - please don't kid yourself that going with the Tories was the best choice for the country or its people.


As a party the LDs are left of centre, far more than Labour during the coalition years. Of course it was political and of course it was for the country.


I said "best choice for the country" - it was not - arguably we wouldn't have Brexit for a start. An argument can be made that going with Labour was not really politically acceptable - if I was a LD I'd content myself with that rather than attempting to rewrite history.

I agree with you that the LDs can be more left than Labour - but that's not a factor here.


Lol. Labour shitey shambles they were/are did not have the foresight to develop a coalition agreement.

Conservatives by virtue of being scientifically cleverer did.

Tbf im just poking clegg. He has my admiration for coalition. His brexit stuff is bs though obvs and a waste of his time.

But compared on an avhievement basis alone farage is premiership clegg is conference.



Is it possible to have that in English? :dunno:
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