Lionel Jesse wrote: That most people shouldn't even be in the back of an ambulance. This would be part of the entitled culture of today I guess.
Lionel Jesse wrote:Not my views, the views of Paramedics interviewed by The Guardian. Of ever 12 people in the back of their ambulance, 8 should have never been there.
As for how does it relate to our entitlement culture.... how about in the same way as those people with a sniffle who clog up doctors and A&E departments, or those with minor injuries that can be treated away from the A&E or even at home. And thats just the tip of the ice berg.
Lionel Jesse wrote:As this is neither made clear, reported or anything but two random no marks online claiming it... Any actually evidence.
There's also the view from paramedics themselves. That most people shouldn't even be in the back of an ambulance. This would be part of the entitled culture of today I guess. The Guardian reported it as 66% of people who call for an ambulance don't need one.
But yeh, if you have something that confirms the hospital's communicate over where there is room to take a patient rather than have then sat in an ambulance or on a trolly. I of course hope it happens as it would be logical... But logic and the NHS aren't two things that often go together.
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Cannydc wrote:Lionel Jesse wrote:As this is neither made clear, reported or anything but two random no marks online claiming it... Any actually evidence.
There's also the view from paramedics themselves. That most people shouldn't even be in the back of an ambulance. This would be part of the entitled culture of today I guess. The Guardian reported it as 66% of people who call for an ambulance don't need one.
But yeh, if you have something that confirms the hospital's communicate over where there is room to take a patient rather than have then sat in an ambulance or on a trolly. I of course hope it happens as it would be logical... But logic and the NHS aren't two things that often go together.
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12.....A rather small sample, wouldn't you agree ??
Sadly, rather than some daft idea that most people call ambulances due to 'entitlement' perhaps you should consider the 'safety first' attitude of many who answer the 111 calls. Diagnosis over the phone is fraught with danger - but cheap as chips.
Lionel Jesse wrote:Not my views, the views of Paramedics interviewed by The Guardian. Of ever 12 people in the back of their ambulance, 8 should have never been there.
As for how does it relate to our entitlement culture.... how about in the same way as those people with a sniffle who clog up doctors and A&E departments, or those with minor injuries that can be treated away from the A&E or even at home. And thats just the tip of the ice berg.
Lionel Jesse wrote:Fletch wrote:HOW MANY PATIENTS HAVE BEEN STUCK IN THE BACK OF AMBULANCES OUTSIDE A&E UNITS THIS WINTER?
NHS England data, collected from all 137 trusts across the country, show the overall number of patients who were stuck in ambulances outside busy A&E units for more than half an hour for each week this winter.
January 22-28 11,061
January 15-21 11,019
January 8-14 12,559
January 1-7 16,690
December 25-31 16,893
December 18-24 11,852
December 11-17 14,323
December 4-10 11,852
November 27-3 10,184
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... ing-E.html
Were any efforts at all made to find new beds at nearby hospitals. It says doctors haggle for beds but it seems to be within the hospital they work. Also, who is directing ambulances to A&E departments that are full? Wheres the communication? They all have radios, surely theres someone on the other end who can liaise with hospitals to see if theres space?
One issue I have with the doctor spilling all to the Mail is this...
He can barely afford to buy a hot chocolate or coffee because his rent is a quarter of his salary and he is drowning in debt from six years of medical school
I am sorry but this is bollocks. And irrelevant in the grand scheme. I always wonder how these people would cope in other industries with lower starting wages, no allowance for medical school debt being paid back only once reaching set thresholds etc.
Also odd how he or she has gone to the Mail, of all papers.....
Cannydc wrote:The Government raided £1bn from NHS funds to keep services running this year, Treasury papers reveal. The money had been earmarked for maintenance and repairs of ageing NHS buildings and equipment,
NHS funds for essential modernisation shrank by 8 per cent in 2017-18, despite the Treasury pledging £500m for equipment like state-of-the-art scanners and IT upgrades.
The raids were permitted even though official figures show hospitals need to spend £1bn just for “high risk” repairs, which if left unaddressed could lead to “catastrophic” equipment failures or major disruption of care.
Nearly £4bn has been “redeployed” from NHS capital spending in the last four years, as ministers are forced to shore up services that have been left stretched to breaking point by years of underfunding.
Anyone remember the crumbling hospitals Labour inherited in 1997 ?
They had to build over 100 new hospitals to replaced infrastructure allowed to rot for 18 disastrous Tory years.
Here we go again. Rob Peter to pay Paul. Starve investment in infrastructure. It's the Tory way.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/healt ... 11226.html
Viper wrote:Cannydc wrote:Viper wrote:Tl;dr and no citation. Likely yet another monologue from partisan source painted up as insider such as this previous effort....
https://order-order.com/2018/01/03/bbc- ... orbynista/
NHS in wales is ten times worse. Under direct labour administration.
Uncomfortable facts for labour.
Please use citations so we can check your fake news.
Fuck off and troll somewhere else.
If you haven't seen similar scenes described in every news outlet (bar the Sun) you are blind as well as stupid.
You dont deal well with having your views challenged. Typical leftie.
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