Guest wrote:Im sure Agent Cob will condemn this soon
NastyNickers wrote:I was just reading about that.
Call me naive, but every time I read about spies I am always amazed it actually happens and isn’t just something in a James Bond film.
Grafenwalder wrote:NastyNickers wrote:I was just reading about that.
Call me naive, but every time I read about spies I am always amazed it actually happens and isn’t just something in a James Bond film.
Oh it's all very real though not so much James Bond, but for anyone into espionage one guy who comes really close to the glamour lifestyle portrayed by Bond, the true life story of Eddie Chapman is well worth reading up on. Ex-safe blower he was doing time in prison when war broke out until SIS offered him a 'job'. He took it and worked as a double agent throughout the war under the codename of Agent Zigzag, possibly one of Britains most successful. He's also the only Briton to be awarded the German Iron Cross. That's how bloody convincing he was!
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/eddie-chapman
Full documentary he appeared in here which is well worth watching. He's quite a character! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ESP4dR-ek&t=354s
NastyNickers wrote:Grafenwalder wrote:NastyNickers wrote:I was just reading about that.
Call me naive, but every time I read about spies I am always amazed it actually happens and isn’t just something in a James Bond film.
Oh it's all very real though not so much James Bond, but for anyone into espionage one guy who comes really close to the glamour lifestyle portrayed by Bond, the true life story of Eddie Chapman is well worth reading up on. Ex-safe blower he was doing time in prison when war broke out until SIS offered him a 'job'. He took it and worked as a double agent throughout the war under the codename of Agent Zigzag, possibly one of Britains most successful. He's also the only Briton to be awarded the German Iron Cross. That's how bloody convincing he was!
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/eddie-chapman
Full documentary he appeared in here which is well worth watching. He's quite a character! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ESP4dR-ek&t=354s
Ah cheers, Graf. I’ll have a watch later on. Sounds interesting. I wasn’t aware we had people so deep in!
It’s strange. I just never considered spying was something we’d do on such a scale these days. I remember Litvinenko. Surely Russia just can’t go about poisoning all the spies on foreign soil? He was released in a prisoner swap a decade ago, wasn’t he? I don’t understand why they have killed him so many years later, when he’s in Britain. And what will we do about it?
Grafenwalder wrote:NastyNickers wrote:Grafenwalder wrote:NastyNickers wrote:I was just reading about that.
Call me naive, but every time I read about spies I am always amazed it actually happens and isn’t just something in a James Bond film.
Oh it's all very real though not so much James Bond, but for anyone into espionage one guy who comes really close to the glamour lifestyle portrayed by Bond, the true life story of Eddie Chapman is well worth reading up on. Ex-safe blower he was doing time in prison when war broke out until SIS offered him a 'job'. He took it and worked as a double agent throughout the war under the codename of Agent Zigzag, possibly one of Britains most successful. He's also the only Briton to be awarded the German Iron Cross. That's how bloody convincing he was!
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/eddie-chapman
Full documentary he appeared in here which is well worth watching. He's quite a character! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ESP4dR-ek&t=354s
Ah cheers, Graf. I’ll have a watch later on. Sounds interesting. I wasn’t aware we had people so deep in!
It’s strange. I just never considered spying was something we’d do on such a scale these days. I remember Litvinenko. Surely Russia just can’t go about poisoning all the spies on foreign soil? He was released in a prisoner swap a decade ago, wasn’t he? I don’t understand why they have killed him so many years later, when he’s in Britain. And what will we do about it?
Chapman's life story is simply mind boggling and knocks any spy thriller movie into a cocked hat. Won't tell you too much in case you watch that documentary but as a character he was very much a ladies man and rogue, and women were drawn to him too. He was a natural charmer.
There's a lot that 'goes on' which most of the public remain totally unaware of. Without the cipher code breaking station at Bletchley Park during 2nd ww Britain and it's allies would not have seen VE day - and that place and it's work remained so top secret after the war, nobody apart from those who worked there (over 10,000), ever knew about it for years. Even relatives, families etc never knew as those who had worked there were bound under the Official Secrets Act. Word gradually began to seep out in the late 70's and Bletchley today is open to the public. https://bletchleypark.org.uk/our-story GC&CS as it was known is the forerunner of today's GCHQ.
I doubt Russia saw Skripal as a threat to security any longer but just sought revenge. Britain will do a bit of sabre rattling through diplomatic circles but beyond that very little else as they've had their moneys worth from Skripal and were paying him a pension they won't need pay out any longer as he appears to have no family here. The business involving Litvinenko was very serious due to the radioactive poison used, Polonium 210, which spread a trail from UK to Eastern Europe back into Russia.
Snookerballs wrote:Its starting to read like a Carre Spy novel,
The woman found with Sergei Skripal is his daughter. His wife, son and older brother have all died in the last two years.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43297638
Snookerballs wrote:Its starting to read like a Carre Spy novel,
The woman found with Sergei Skripal is his daughter. His wife, son and older brother have all died in the last two years.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43297638
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