Cannydc wrote:So come on - how was my comment 'nonsense', Roc ?
What use are they, when they can only confirm that a chemical attack took place (65 dead, independent witnesses, so quite likely) and what was used (again, witnesses speak of a strong Chlorine smell on victims) ???
Cannydc wrote:Didge wrote:Russia said a visit by chemical weapons inspectors to the site of a suspected gas attack in Syria's Douma today had been delayed as a result of Western air strikes. The British delegation to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons said Russia and Syria had not yet allowed access.
But Dmitry Peskov, Vladimir Putin's spokesman, said: 'We consider such accusations against Russia to be groundless,' adding that Moscow was in favour of 'an impartial investigation'.
The British delegation said in a statement posted on Twitter: 'Unfettered access [is] essential. Russia and Syria must cooperate.'
Britain's ambassador to the OPCW also said Russian assertions about why a team of inspectors had so far been unable to reach Douma were incorrect.
Russian officials have said that the inspectors were unable to reach Douma because they had not been cleared by the United Nations and because of US-led strikes carried out on targets in Syria on Saturday prevented them.
But Ambassador Peter Wilson said at a news conference in The Hague that the United Nations had cleared the inspectors to go, and they had been unable to reach Douma because Syria and Russia had been unable to guarantee their safety.
Earlier, Russia vowed not to interfere in the work of a fact-finding mission sent to Syria by OPWC.
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Clearly stalling, so they can cover up the evidence
The main flaw in all of this is that although ALL parties seem to agree that a chemical attack took place, the presence of OPCW would benefit no-one.
Reason being, they are not permitted to apportion blame on anyone.
Therefore they are as useful as a chocolate fireguard, and extolling their benefits is pointless.
Didge wrote:Cannydc wrote:Didge wrote:Russia said a visit by chemical weapons inspectors to the site of a suspected gas attack in Syria's Douma today had been delayed as a result of Western air strikes. The British delegation to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons said Russia and Syria had not yet allowed access.
But Dmitry Peskov, Vladimir Putin's spokesman, said: 'We consider such accusations against Russia to be groundless,' adding that Moscow was in favour of 'an impartial investigation'.
The British delegation said in a statement posted on Twitter: 'Unfettered access [is] essential. Russia and Syria must cooperate.'
Britain's ambassador to the OPCW also said Russian assertions about why a team of inspectors had so far been unable to reach Douma were incorrect.
Russian officials have said that the inspectors were unable to reach Douma because they had not been cleared by the United Nations and because of US-led strikes carried out on targets in Syria on Saturday prevented them.
But Ambassador Peter Wilson said at a news conference in The Hague that the United Nations had cleared the inspectors to go, and they had been unable to reach Douma because Syria and Russia had been unable to guarantee their safety.
Earlier, Russia vowed not to interfere in the work of a fact-finding mission sent to Syria by OPWC.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z5CrBl6hZY
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Clearly stalling, so they can cover up the evidence
The main flaw in all of this is that although ALL parties seem to agree that a chemical attack took place, the presence of OPCW would benefit no-one.
Reason being, they are not permitted to apportion blame on anyone.
Therefore they are as useful as a chocolate fireguard, and extolling their benefits is pointless.
They are there to confirm whether chemical weapons have been used
So they are very uselful and have before tell what kinds of weapon was used, which is very telling, without having to point the finger, but shows obviously who would have carried out the attack.
As they have previously in 2017
Just as the UN did in 2014, in their fact finding mission. Which found that the trajectory of rockets, could have only come from the Syrian Governement forces
Then we have other intelligence for this latest attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mide ... SKBN1HL0N1
Cannydc wrote:Didge wrote:Cannydc wrote:Didge wrote:Russia said a visit by chemical weapons inspectors to the site of a suspected gas attack in Syria's Douma today had been delayed as a result of Western air strikes. The British delegation to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons said Russia and Syria had not yet allowed access.
But Dmitry Peskov, Vladimir Putin's spokesman, said: 'We consider such accusations against Russia to be groundless,' adding that Moscow was in favour of 'an impartial investigation'.
The British delegation said in a statement posted on Twitter: 'Unfettered access [is] essential. Russia and Syria must cooperate.'
Britain's ambassador to the OPCW also said Russian assertions about why a team of inspectors had so far been unable to reach Douma were incorrect.
Russian officials have said that the inspectors were unable to reach Douma because they had not been cleared by the United Nations and because of US-led strikes carried out on targets in Syria on Saturday prevented them.
But Ambassador Peter Wilson said at a news conference in The Hague that the United Nations had cleared the inspectors to go, and they had been unable to reach Douma because Syria and Russia had been unable to guarantee their safety.
Earlier, Russia vowed not to interfere in the work of a fact-finding mission sent to Syria by OPWC.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z5CrBl6hZY
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Clearly stalling, so they can cover up the evidence
The main flaw in all of this is that although ALL parties seem to agree that a chemical attack took place, the presence of OPCW would benefit no-one.
Reason being, they are not permitted to apportion blame on anyone.
Therefore they are as useful as a chocolate fireguard, and extolling their benefits is pointless.
They are there to confirm whether chemical weapons have been used
So they are very uselful and have before tell what kinds of weapon was used, which is very telling, without having to point the finger, but shows obviously who would have carried out the attack.
As they have previously in 2017
Just as the UN did in 2014, in their fact finding mission. Which found that the trajectory of rockets, could have only come from the Syrian Governement forces
Then we have other intelligence for this latest attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mide ... SKBN1HL0N1
So they cannot apportion actual blame, and are therefore next to useless. The rest can come from various witnesses. It's actual proof of the aggressor's identity that is needed.
Didge wrote:Cannydc wrote:Didge wrote:Cannydc wrote:Didge wrote:Russia said a visit by chemical weapons inspectors to the site of a suspected gas attack in Syria's Douma today had been delayed as a result of Western air strikes. The British delegation to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons said Russia and Syria had not yet allowed access.
But Dmitry Peskov, Vladimir Putin's spokesman, said: 'We consider such accusations against Russia to be groundless,' adding that Moscow was in favour of 'an impartial investigation'.
The British delegation said in a statement posted on Twitter: 'Unfettered access [is] essential. Russia and Syria must cooperate.'
Britain's ambassador to the OPCW also said Russian assertions about why a team of inspectors had so far been unable to reach Douma were incorrect.
Russian officials have said that the inspectors were unable to reach Douma because they had not been cleared by the United Nations and because of US-led strikes carried out on targets in Syria on Saturday prevented them.
But Ambassador Peter Wilson said at a news conference in The Hague that the United Nations had cleared the inspectors to go, and they had been unable to reach Douma because Syria and Russia had been unable to guarantee their safety.
Earlier, Russia vowed not to interfere in the work of a fact-finding mission sent to Syria by OPWC.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z5CrBl6hZY
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Clearly stalling, so they can cover up the evidence
The main flaw in all of this is that although ALL parties seem to agree that a chemical attack took place, the presence of OPCW would benefit no-one.
Reason being, they are not permitted to apportion blame on anyone.
Therefore they are as useful as a chocolate fireguard, and extolling their benefits is pointless.
They are there to confirm whether chemical weapons have been used
So they are very uselful and have before tell what kinds of weapon was used, which is very telling, without having to point the finger, but shows obviously who would have carried out the attack.
As they have previously in 2017
Just as the UN did in 2014, in their fact finding mission. Which found that the trajectory of rockets, could have only come from the Syrian Governement forces
Then we have other intelligence for this latest attack
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mide ... SKBN1HL0N1
So they cannot apportion actual blame, and are therefore next to useless. The rest can come from various witnesses. It's actual proof of the aggressor's identity that is needed.
Only in your eyes, after you clearly seem to fail to graps anything
I mean are you denying chemical weapons have been used?
Who do you think made them in Syria?
Assad by any chance?
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