Snookerballs wrote:Another forgotten problem looming in the Background concernining Brexit is Gibraltar.
This could be more of a problem than Northern Ireland, Spain wants total control over Gibraltar Airport , which means we will lose total sovereignty of the Island, is it going to be worth it ???
"Brexit whats it all about ?"
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gibraltar-brexit-northern-ireland-border-spain-theresa-may-a8234516.html
Grafenwalder wrote:Snookerballs wrote:Another forgotten problem looming in the Background concernining Brexit is Gibraltar.
This could be more of a problem than Northern Ireland, Spain wants total control over Gibraltar Airport , which means we will lose total sovereignty of the Island, is it going to be worth it ???
"Brexit whats it all about ?"
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gibraltar-brexit-northern-ireland-border-spain-theresa-may-a8234516.html
They've tried to forget from the beginning but like Ireland, it won't go away. Worth remembering it was one of the first to declare with a 95.91% Remain vote after one of the highest turnouts. So May had better come up with something damn good but given her track record over Windrush i don't hold much hope for Gibraltarians. I don't think Gibraltar ever got mentioned during the campaigning. Nobody fully knew or understood exactly what they were voting for, it was all based on feeding the xenophobes rubbish they wanted to hear about immigration, a £350m a week lie, and "taking our country back".
It's been a very expensive lesson in how to be very silly and the children have had their 'fun'. Article 50 is reversible so a stop should be put to all the nonsense now and we should get back to rebuilding a prospective future with our EU partners.
Cannydc wrote:The row over Jeremy Corbyn’s approach to Brexit has exploded after five MPs from the party’s northern heartlands broke ranks and openly demanded a new referendum on the UK’s withdrawal deal.
The MPs from the Northeast – which heavily backed Leave in the 2016 referendum – said a new vote is essential because the true nature of Brexit is only just emerging.
They warn plans to leave the single market will devastate family living standards as the future of major manufacturers and employers in their region is thrown into doubt.
With most projections showing the UK worse off outside the EU’s existing structures, the five northeast MPs have decided to publicly contradict their leader’s position and call for a “people’s vote” on the eventual deal.
The MPs in particular highlight how firms like Nissan in Sunderland, Hitachi in County Durham and in the chemicals industry on Teesside, providing thousands of jobs, see their future within the EU customs union and single market.
Fancy that - The Sunderland Massive being given a dose of reality by their own MPs.
Step up, Jeremy Corbyn. Time to shelve your hopes of re-nationalisation for now (can't happen in the Customs Union) and prioritise jobs and the UK economy by coming out in favour of a referendum on the deal that we are obviously not going to get...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 43746.html
Guest wrote:Cannydc wrote:The row over Jeremy Corbyn’s approach to Brexit has exploded after five MPs from the party’s northern heartlands broke ranks and openly demanded a new referendum on the UK’s withdrawal deal.
The MPs from the Northeast – which heavily backed Leave in the 2016 referendum – said a new vote is essential because the true nature of Brexit is only just emerging.
They warn plans to leave the single market will devastate family living standards as the future of major manufacturers and employers in their region is thrown into doubt.
With most projections showing the UK worse off outside the EU’s existing structures, the five northeast MPs have decided to publicly contradict their leader’s position and call for a “people’s vote” on the eventual deal.
The MPs in particular highlight how firms like Nissan in Sunderland, Hitachi in County Durham and in the chemicals industry on Teesside, providing thousands of jobs, see their future within the EU customs union and single market.
Fancy that - The Sunderland Massive being given a dose of reality by their own MPs.
Step up, Jeremy Corbyn. Time to shelve your hopes of re-nationalisation for now (can't happen in the Customs Union) and prioritise jobs and the UK economy by coming out in favour of a referendum on the deal that we are obviously not going to get...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 43746.html
Re-nationalisation can happen but not 100% re-nationalisation. For example, if they nationalised the railways but left Northern Rail as private the EU would accept that.
Snookerballs wrote:Another forgotten problem looming in the Background concernining Brexit is Gibraltar.
This could be more of a problem than Northern Ireland, Spain wants total control over Gibraltar Airport , which means we will lose total sovereignty of the Island, is it going to be worth it ???
"Brexit whats it all about ?"
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gibraltar-brexit-northern-ireland-border-spain-theresa-may-a8234516.html
The Falkland Islands’ government has sounded the alarm over leaving the EU single market, warning that the territory would take a “catastrophic” economic hit if it faces new tariffs and quotas as a result of Brexit.
The Independent understands that representatives of the islands’ fishing industry and government have been lobbying British politicians over the dangers of losing seamless access to the EU – where the vast majority of the territory’s exports go.
Cannydc wrote:Grafenwalder wrote:Snookerballs wrote:Another forgotten problem looming in the Background concernining Brexit is Gibraltar.
This could be more of a problem than Northern Ireland, Spain wants total control over Gibraltar Airport , which means we will lose total sovereignty of the Island, is it going to be worth it ???
"Brexit whats it all about ?"
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gibraltar-brexit-northern-ireland-border-spain-theresa-may-a8234516.html
They've tried to forget from the beginning but like Ireland, it won't go away. Worth remembering it was one of the first to declare with a 95.91% Remain vote after one of the highest turnouts. So May had better come up with something damn good but given her track record over Windrush i don't hold much hope for Gibraltarians. I don't think Gibraltar ever got mentioned during the campaigning. Nobody fully knew or understood exactly what they were voting for, it was all based on feeding the xenophobes rubbish they wanted to hear about immigration, a £350m a week lie, and "taking our country back".
It's been a very expensive lesson in how to be very silly and the children have had their 'fun'. Article 50 is reversible so a stop should be put to all the nonsense now and we should get back to rebuilding a prospective future with our EU partners.
Gibraltar was certainly mentioned, but along with N. Ireland, the car industry, a slump in the GBP, etc, etc, it was buried under the heading Project Fear.
Guest wrote:Same applies for utilities, all could be privatised and leave Southern Water, Electric and Gas aziz.
MungoBrush wrote:Guest wrote:Same applies for utilities, all could be privatised and leave Southern Water, Electric and Gas aziz.
Hooray!
While you are at it, lets resurrect British Road Services
And the National Coal Board
And BEA
And the egg marketing board
And British Rail
And British Steel
and British Leyland
etc etc
And hundreds of other massive loss making enterprises that cost the taxpayers billions to bail out year after year.
Billions that could have been spent on the NHS for example.
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