Rolluplostinspace wrote:In bed with Putin is utter bollox.
calitom wrote:hey geniuses......the usa is not imposing tariffs out of nothing. Look at the tariffs already on american goods. It is just an evening out of the playing field.
Is that a tough concept for you? Or are you just too lazy or too mind numbed from reading these ridiculous publications that dont state the facts.
When one side(for example China) tariffs the hell out of you and restricts imports of goods---and the other side(for example the USA doesnt tariff their goods--creating huge trade deficits and loss of jobs)
then it is perfectly reasonable to tariff China in order to create a fair playing field.
Is that so difficult to understand??
The ignorance on TSD is just appalling at times.
Cannydc wrote:calitom wrote:hey geniuses......the usa is not imposing tariffs out of nothing. Look at the tariffs already on american goods. It is just an evening out of the playing field.
Is that a tough concept for you? Or are you just too lazy or too mind numbed from reading these ridiculous publications that dont state the facts.
When one side(for example China) tariffs the hell out of you and restricts imports of goods---and the other side(for example the USA doesnt tariff their goods--creating huge trade deficits and loss of jobs)
then it is perfectly reasonable to tariff China in order to create a fair playing field.
Is that so difficult to understand??
The ignorance on TSD is just appalling at times.
WE AREN'T CHINA, YOU CRETIN !!
Do you really not understand the FREE TRADE concept ?
Be as protectionist as you like - you are harming your own workers and economy too...
I don't care - I never buy anything American (the whisky is vile, like the coffee and the scruffy jeans).
Rolluplostinspace wrote:I think the only American thing in the house is Windows 10.
Oh and a Ford transit made in S Africa.
Cannydc wrote:The US is to impose tariffs on steel and aluminium imports from key allies in Europe and North America.
The US said a 25% tax on steel and 10% tax on aluminium from the EU, Mexico and Canada will start at midnight.
The move immediately triggered vows of retaliation from Mexico, Canada and the EU, which called the tariffs "protectionism, pure and simple".
The UK said it was "deeply disappointed" by the US decision, which followed weeks of negotiations.
Which look like a practice run for our post-Brexit negotiations for free trade agreements.
That is, a shambles.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44320221
Stooo wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:I think the only American thing in the house is Windows 10.
Oh and a Ford transit made in S Africa.
I thought that the Transit factory was in Belgium? Remember the heady days of Dagenham?
Rolluplostinspace wrote:At the same time Europe are refusing to follow Americas dictat the we stop trading with Iran.
It's looking like most of the civilised world is backing away from the empire of chaos.
Fuck the dollar we'll trade in Euros and Yuan.
Fuck America.
Fuck NATO.
That is what Trump is now creating and his handlers must know what they're doing.
Europe is being pushed eastward.
Is this the long slow birth of the Eurasian empire starting to really take off thanks to America?
Where will the UK stand?
Alone in between America and Eurasia.
Eurasia dwarfs America for resources manpower and wealth.
Dangerous times.
If America becomes much more isolationist it may well trigger the withdrawal of America troops from the middle east so they can take over the south American continent for all its needs.
Crazy?
Maybe.
Cannydc wrote:There was me thinking that USA are our prime target for a FREE TRADE agreement, post-Brexit.
I wonder what Plan B is...
Cannydc wrote:calitom wrote:hey geniuses......the usa is not imposing tariffs out of nothing. Look at the tariffs already on american goods. It is just an evening out of the playing field.
Is that a tough concept for you? Or are you just too lazy or too mind numbed from reading these ridiculous publications that dont state the facts.
When one side(for example China) tariffs the hell out of you and restricts imports of goods---and the other side(for example the USA doesnt tariff their goods--creating huge trade deficits and loss of jobs)
then it is perfectly reasonable to tariff China in order to create a fair playing field.
Is that so difficult to understand??
The ignorance on TSD is just appalling at times.
WE AREN'T CHINA, YOU CRETIN !!
Do you really not understand the FREE TRADE concept ?
Be as protectionist as you like - you are harming your own workers and economy too...
I don't care - I never buy anything American (the whisky is vile, like the coffee and the scruffy jeans).
Guest wrote:Cannydc wrote:The US is to impose tariffs on steel and aluminium imports from key allies in Europe and North America.
The US said a 25% tax on steel and 10% tax on aluminium from the EU, Mexico and Canada will start at midnight.
The move immediately triggered vows of retaliation from Mexico, Canada and the EU, which called the tariffs "protectionism, pure and simple".
The UK said it was "deeply disappointed" by the US decision, which followed weeks of negotiations.
Which look like a practice run for our post-Brexit negotiations for free trade agreements.
That is, a shambles.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44320221
I was born in England, and moved to the U.S 20 years ago. I love the place, glad I got out of the shit that Britain was and It's only got worse since then.
America will survive, It's a waiting game. Europe is on the verge of imploding and pretty soon you will be at each others throats fighting for scraps. Were big enough that we can make and use any materials we want to rebuild renew our infa-structure at home.
What do you do, put a tariff on Harley davidson a company that's going out of business anyway here lol.
How do you think Britain will do in a trade war with anyone. You produce fuck all and what you do produce can and is made cheaper else where.
Canada can't sustain a trade war with as nor can Mexico.
It might be that Trump wants to close the borders so that no one who is illegal gets in from both borders.
Wait and see Mexico be the first to beg Trump to stop and offer anything Trump wants.
We might be heading to ww111, and it will begin again in Europe. Don't bet On America bailing you out this time.
Guest wrote:Cannydc wrote:The US is to impose tariffs on steel and aluminium imports from key allies in Europe and North America.
The US said a 25% tax on steel and 10% tax on aluminium from the EU, Mexico and Canada will start at midnight.
The move immediately triggered vows of retaliation from Mexico, Canada and the EU, which called the tariffs "protectionism, pure and simple".
The UK said it was "deeply disappointed" by the US decision, which followed weeks of negotiations.
Which look like a practice run for our post-Brexit negotiations for free trade agreements.
That is, a shambles.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44320221
I was born in England, and moved to the U.S 20 years ago. I love the place, glad I got out of the shit that Britain was and It's only got worse since then.
America will survive, It's a waiting game. Europe is on the verge of imploding and pretty soon you will be at each others throats fighting for scraps. Were big enough that we can make and use any materials we want to rebuild renew our infa-structure at home.
What do you do, put a tariff on Harley davidson a company that's going out of business anyway here lol.
How do you think Britain will do in a trade war with anyone. You produce fuck all and what you do produce can and is made cheaper else where.
Canada can't sustain a trade war with as nor can Mexico.
It might be that Trump wants to close the borders so that no one who is illegal gets in from both borders.
Wait and see Mexico be the first to beg Trump to stop and offer anything Trump wants.
We might be heading to ww111, and it will begin again in Europe. Don't bet On America bailing you out this time.
Keyser wrote:Harold Wilson was the last UK PM to stand up to America when he told Lyndon B. Johnson that the UK would not be sending troops into Vietnam.
May is pitiful.
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