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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Vam » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:54 pm

@ Maddog...thanks for that Michael Graham article - fascinating, and it does make perfect sense.

I get how wheeling out Obama right now, especially in the run-up to the Midterms, might
prove counterproductive. Trump's Neanderthal core base no longer take kindly to being patronised. So Obama's smug "Hush now. Papa knows best!" oratory style is sure to have them doubling down even more, and bristling with indignation.

Despite understanding the reasons why a truly woeful, unsophisticated, utterly uninformed, sociopathic dumbass is now presiding over the Oval Office, I still can't quite manage to believe he's there!

I honestly cringe every time I hear this clown speak (to be fair, that could also be down to that creepy 'thing' his mouth does), because of his inherent ignorance, his lies, and his inability to complete a whole sentence before digressing onto various rambling tangents.

Btw - 4,229 false or misleading claims, by day 558. But I guess you already knew that :wink:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/08/01/president-trump-has-made-4229-false-or-misleading-claims-in-558-days/?utm_term=.ed3a3ba08876
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Cannydc » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:09 pm

"How did America get Trump? Eight years of sanctimony and elitism, along with hostility toward the basic cultural values of a significant part of the country -- and the promise that Hillary Clinton would bring even more of that.

How do you get Trump for four more years? See above."


Nah, for my money, The Who were right on the money with this one....

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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Vam » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:37 pm

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:lol:


The main reason I wanted to post in this thread was to show some appreciation for that clip (then I forgot to do that).

Good find! :thumbsup: :gigglesnshit:
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Stooo » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:52 pm

Vam wrote:@ Maddog...thanks for that Michael Graham article - fascinating, and it does make perfect sense.

I get how wheeling out Obama right now, especially in the run-up to the Midterms, might
prove counterproductive. Trump's Neanderthal core base no longer take kindly to being patronised. So Obama's smug "Hush now. Papa knows best!" oratory style is sure to have them doubling down even more, and bristling with indignation.

Despite understanding the reasons why a truly woeful, unsophisticated, utterly uninformed, sociopathic dumbass is now presiding over the Oval Office, I still can't quite manage to believe he's there!

I honestly cringe every time I hear this clown speak (to be fair, that could also be down to that creepy 'thing' his mouth does), because of his inherent ignorance, his lies, and his inability to complete a whole sentence before digressing onto various rambling tangents.

Btw - 4,229 false or misleading claims, by day 558. But I guess you already knew that :wink:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/08/01/president-trump-has-made-4229-false-or-misleading-claims-in-558-days/?utm_term=.ed3a3ba08876


Trump regret is a thing. Obama's appearance is there to reassure and encourage the Democrat base to vote, there are people walking away from the orange shit gibbon who will also be reassured that people make mistakes and the Country is more important than dwelling on the fact that they helped to balls it up (hopefully in the short term).

With the blatant gerrymandering that's going, every vote will count and needs to be encouraged. Go high with optimism rather than low with hate and isolation.
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Vam » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:38 pm

Kamala Harris is being very hotly tipped and looking good as a possible antidote in 2020.

Real fire in her belly type, and I like everything I've seen of her so far...
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Guest » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:33 pm

Maddog wrote:
Stooo wrote:Prayers?

You've got a really stupid gangster running your country and getting paid by Russia.

Oh wait, prayers are your best bet :pmsl:


I think running the country isn't really the right phrase. He's no doubt not an intellectual but the Russian shit is a big nothing burger. And as Tom has aluded, things are going very well over here. Presidents get far too much blame and credit, but the fears of him screwing up everything were overblown. I think what people are starting to do is just ignore most of what he says and just look at the general conditions in the country. I.know that can be a problem because authoritarians can actually make things run well for a while, but our system is healthy enough to keep the lunatic on a leash.



Is that why they call it 'obamacare' :roll:
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Guest » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:41 pm

Maddog wrote:Every week I host a radio show in Great Britain, so great is their interest in our politics during the Trump era. And every week, the recurring question is, "How did America get Donald Trump in the first place?" This week, I finally had a satisfactory answer. I played the audio of Barack Obama's speech.

The former president returned to the stump last week with a major speech to college students in Illinois. "Listen to that speech," I told my British audience. "It's all there."

What is "it?" President Obama's fans—and he has far more than Donald Trump does at the moment— heard the return of intellectualism, sophistication and style. A Los Angeles Times columnist described Obama as "Sleek Dog," in contrast to President Bill Clinton, a.k.a., the "Big Dog."

But Trump voters heard something else in Obama's speech, which sounded all too familiar from the years of his presidency: condescension, arrogance. You might think they're just imagining it, but to the Republicans who picked Trump, it's very real.

In Trump's America, where talk radio and Fox News are a steady part of the information stream, Obama's previous, perceived slights toward them are as well-known as Hillary Clinton's infamous "baskets of deplorables" comment. When Clinton made that remark during the 2016 campaign, many conservative pundits immediately noted how it echoed candidate Obama's dismissive tone in 2008 regarding "bitter" blue-collar voters in rural America who "cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

As Obama spoke in Illinois, conservatives heard Obama's characterization of middle America as "basically decent," people who "get confused sometimes" as an insult.

"You know, they listen to the wrong talk radio shows or watch the wrong TV networks, um, but they're, they're basically decent, they're basically sound," he said.

And that's the context in which they see Obama and Donald Trump today.

When President Obama described the Republican Party as the "home" of "the politics of division, of resentment and paranoia," it sounded all too familiar. Just days after his speech at Sen. John McCain's funeral, where he praised the Republican senator for rising above harsh, implacable partisanship, Obama seemed to indulge in exactly that. Ask activist Trump supporters what they think of Obama's presidency. They'll tell you it was eight years of bare-knuckle partisanship beneath of the velvet glove of a winning smile and friendly media coverage. Are they right? Maybe, maybe not. But it's what they believe.

When President Obama said, "I complained plenty about Fox News – but you never heard me threaten to shut them down, or call them enemies of the people," conservatives who watch that "wrong TV network" and listen to the "wrong radio" burst into laughter. They know the many times the Obama White House tried to get Fox News marginalized as a media source. They recall the Obama administration spying on Associate Press reporters, labeling Fox News's James Rosen a "criminal co-conspirator" over his coverage of North Korea policy and investigating his family. Obama opened more "Espionage Act" investigations into the working press than all previous administrations combined.

Even the Washington Post conceded, "Shocked by Trump aggression against reporters and sources? The blueprint was drawn by Obama."

When Obama wondered aloud, "What has happened to the Republican Party" and complained that the Trump administration is "undermining our alliances, cozying up to Russia," some Trump supporters tweeted each other "Did the 1980s get their foreign policy back?" That was a reference to Obama's mockery of Mitt Romney during their 2012 debate, when Romney called Russia America's greatest geo-political threat. Others posted pictures of the big red button Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov with "reset" written in Russia across the top. (As Lavrov noted, Hillary's button actually had the wrong Russian word.)

And when President Obama tried to take credit for the current economic boom— "When you hear how great the economy's doing right now, let's just remember when this recovery started"— you could practically hear the heads exploding across Trump Country. Yes, it's true that the economy recovered after the Great Recession. What Trump supporters know but people who rarely consume conservative media content likely don't, is that the economic recovery under Barack Obama was the slowest since World War II.

Obama's recovery was so awful that in August of 2011— two years after the $1 trillion stimulus was passed—the economy added zero jobs.

What makes the Obama experience so maddening isn't his behavior, or his questionable claims—that's just politics. It's the self-righteousness of it all, the suggestion that the U.S. under Obama was divided, not between liberals and conservatives, but rather "people who agreed with Obama and his allies," and "bad people." "Bad" as in "confused," "bitter," "clinging to guns and religion," "deplorable."

The return of Barack Obama to the national stage will remind many people who chose a problematic presidential candidate like Donald Trump why they made that choice to begin with. Viewing Donald Trump in a political vacuum, it seems almost impossible to imagine how he was ever elected. But compare him to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, and you don't have to have a #MAGA hat on to see how appealing he becomes.

How did America get Trump? Eight years of sanctimony and elitism, along with hostility toward the basic cultural values of a significant part of the country -- and the promise that Hillary Clinton would bring even more of that.

How do you get Trump for four more years? See above.




https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary ... -of-trump/




What a trained seal for your uk sycophants :roll:

I notice you conveniently leave out the fact that Trump is more popular at this point in his presidency than either obama or bush. But that would be called context, obviously a foreign concept to you. As is all the corruption being exposed in obamas doj and fbi, which you also ignore. :roll:
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Guest » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:49 pm

Vam wrote:Kamala Harris is being very hotly tipped and looking good as a possible antidote in 2020.

Real fire in her belly type, and I like everything I've seen of her so far...




Suddenly, The Left Loves Selectively Edited Videos

https://www.google.com/amp/s/townhall.c ... 3famp=true


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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Maddog » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:57 am

Stooo wrote:
Vam wrote:@ Maddog...thanks for that Michael Graham article - fascinating, and it does make perfect sense.

I get how wheeling out Obama right now, especially in the run-up to the Midterms, might
prove counterproductive. Trump's Neanderthal core base no longer take kindly to being patronised. So Obama's smug "Hush now. Papa knows best!" oratory style is sure to have them doubling down even more, and bristling with indignation.

Despite understanding the reasons why a truly woeful, unsophisticated, utterly uninformed, sociopathic dumbass is now presiding over the Oval Office, I still can't quite manage to believe he's there!

I honestly cringe every time I hear this clown speak (to be fair, that could also be down to that creepy 'thing' his mouth does), because of his inherent ignorance, his lies, and his inability to complete a whole sentence before digressing onto various rambling tangents.

Btw - 4,229 false or misleading claims, by day 558. But I guess you already knew that :wink:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/08/01/president-trump-has-made-4229-false-or-misleading-claims-in-558-days/?utm_term=.ed3a3ba08876


Trump regret is a thing. Obama's appearance is there to reassure and encourage the Democrat base to vote, there are people walking away from the orange shit gibbon who will also be reassured that people make mistakes and the Country is more important than dwelling on the fact that they helped to balls it up (hopefully in the short term).

With the blatant gerrymandering that's going, every vote will count and needs to be encouraged. Go high with optimism rather than low with hate and isolation.



Gerrymandering has no effect on governor or Senate races. It is only partially effective in the House. The problem Dems have is they are becoming more and more confined to certain areas. It's hard to draw lines that don't separate similar voters. The urban areas are heavily Democratic, suburban and rural areas are heavily Republican.
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Stooo » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:19 pm

Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:Every week I host a radio show in Great Britain, so great is their interest in our politics during the Trump era. And every week, the recurring question is, "How did America get Donald Trump in the first place?" This week, I finally had a satisfactory answer. I played the audio of Barack Obama's speech.

The former president returned to the stump last week with a major speech to college students in Illinois. "Listen to that speech," I told my British audience. "It's all there."

What is "it?" President Obama's fans—and he has far more than Donald Trump does at the moment— heard the return of intellectualism, sophistication and style. A Los Angeles Times columnist described Obama as "Sleek Dog," in contrast to President Bill Clinton, a.k.a., the "Big Dog."

But Trump voters heard something else in Obama's speech, which sounded all too familiar from the years of his presidency: condescension, arrogance. You might think they're just imagining it, but to the Republicans who picked Trump, it's very real.

In Trump's America, where talk radio and Fox News are a steady part of the information stream, Obama's previous, perceived slights toward them are as well-known as Hillary Clinton's infamous "baskets of deplorables" comment. When Clinton made that remark during the 2016 campaign, many conservative pundits immediately noted how it echoed candidate Obama's dismissive tone in 2008 regarding "bitter" blue-collar voters in rural America who "cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

As Obama spoke in Illinois, conservatives heard Obama's characterization of middle America as "basically decent," people who "get confused sometimes" as an insult.

"You know, they listen to the wrong talk radio shows or watch the wrong TV networks, um, but they're, they're basically decent, they're basically sound," he said.

And that's the context in which they see Obama and Donald Trump today.

When President Obama described the Republican Party as the "home" of "the politics of division, of resentment and paranoia," it sounded all too familiar. Just days after his speech at Sen. John McCain's funeral, where he praised the Republican senator for rising above harsh, implacable partisanship, Obama seemed to indulge in exactly that. Ask activist Trump supporters what they think of Obama's presidency. They'll tell you it was eight years of bare-knuckle partisanship beneath of the velvet glove of a winning smile and friendly media coverage. Are they right? Maybe, maybe not. But it's what they believe.

When President Obama said, "I complained plenty about Fox News – but you never heard me threaten to shut them down, or call them enemies of the people," conservatives who watch that "wrong TV network" and listen to the "wrong radio" burst into laughter. They know the many times the Obama White House tried to get Fox News marginalized as a media source. They recall the Obama administration spying on Associate Press reporters, labeling Fox News's James Rosen a "criminal co-conspirator" over his coverage of North Korea policy and investigating his family. Obama opened more "Espionage Act" investigations into the working press than all previous administrations combined.

Even the Washington Post conceded, "Shocked by Trump aggression against reporters and sources? The blueprint was drawn by Obama."

When Obama wondered aloud, "What has happened to the Republican Party" and complained that the Trump administration is "undermining our alliances, cozying up to Russia," some Trump supporters tweeted each other "Did the 1980s get their foreign policy back?" That was a reference to Obama's mockery of Mitt Romney during their 2012 debate, when Romney called Russia America's greatest geo-political threat. Others posted pictures of the big red button Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov with "reset" written in Russia across the top. (As Lavrov noted, Hillary's button actually had the wrong Russian word.)

And when President Obama tried to take credit for the current economic boom— "When you hear how great the economy's doing right now, let's just remember when this recovery started"— you could practically hear the heads exploding across Trump Country. Yes, it's true that the economy recovered after the Great Recession. What Trump supporters know but people who rarely consume conservative media content likely don't, is that the economic recovery under Barack Obama was the slowest since World War II.

Obama's recovery was so awful that in August of 2011— two years after the $1 trillion stimulus was passed—the economy added zero jobs.

What makes the Obama experience so maddening isn't his behavior, or his questionable claims—that's just politics. It's the self-righteousness of it all, the suggestion that the U.S. under Obama was divided, not between liberals and conservatives, but rather "people who agreed with Obama and his allies," and "bad people." "Bad" as in "confused," "bitter," "clinging to guns and religion," "deplorable."

The return of Barack Obama to the national stage will remind many people who chose a problematic presidential candidate like Donald Trump why they made that choice to begin with. Viewing Donald Trump in a political vacuum, it seems almost impossible to imagine how he was ever elected. But compare him to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, and you don't have to have a #MAGA hat on to see how appealing he becomes.

How did America get Trump? Eight years of sanctimony and elitism, along with hostility toward the basic cultural values of a significant part of the country -- and the promise that Hillary Clinton would bring even more of that.

How do you get Trump for four more years? See above.




https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary ... -of-trump/




What a trained seal for your uk sycophants :roll:

I notice you conveniently leave out the fact that Trump is more popular at this point in his presidency than either obama or bush. But that would be called context, obviously a foreign concept to you. As is all the corruption being exposed in obamas doj and fbi, which you also ignore. :roll:


More popular within his voting base, ie Republicans.

The only people getting arrested, charged and imprisoned are TRE45ON's own staff at an historically rapid rate, if he doesn't get out then he will end his days in an 8x8.

Your IP resolves to the Russian Federation, what's that about Mr bot?
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby ATXn;D » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:14 pm

Stooo wrote:
Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:Every week I host a radio show in Great Britain, so great is their interest in our politics during the Trump era. And every week, the recurring question is, "How did America get Donald Trump in the first place?" This week, I finally had a satisfactory answer. I played the audio of Barack Obama's speech.

The former president returned to the stump last week with a major speech to college students in Illinois. "Listen to that speech," I told my British audience. "It's all there."

What is "it?" President Obama's fans—and he has far more than Donald Trump does at the moment— heard the return of intellectualism, sophistication and style. A Los Angeles Times columnist described Obama as "Sleek Dog," in contrast to President Bill Clinton, a.k.a., the "Big Dog."

But Trump voters heard something else in Obama's speech, which sounded all too familiar from the years of his presidency: condescension, arrogance. You might think they're just imagining it, but to the Republicans who picked Trump, it's very real.

In Trump's America, where talk radio and Fox News are a steady part of the information stream, Obama's previous, perceived slights toward them are as well-known as Hillary Clinton's infamous "baskets of deplorables" comment. When Clinton made that remark during the 2016 campaign, many conservative pundits immediately noted how it echoed candidate Obama's dismissive tone in 2008 regarding "bitter" blue-collar voters in rural America who "cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

As Obama spoke in Illinois, conservatives heard Obama's characterization of middle America as "basically decent," people who "get confused sometimes" as an insult.

"You know, they listen to the wrong talk radio shows or watch the wrong TV networks, um, but they're, they're basically decent, they're basically sound," he said.

And that's the context in which they see Obama and Donald Trump today.

When President Obama described the Republican Party as the "home" of "the politics of division, of resentment and paranoia," it sounded all too familiar. Just days after his speech at Sen. John McCain's funeral, where he praised the Republican senator for rising above harsh, implacable partisanship, Obama seemed to indulge in exactly that. Ask activist Trump supporters what they think of Obama's presidency. They'll tell you it was eight years of bare-knuckle partisanship beneath of the velvet glove of a winning smile and friendly media coverage. Are they right? Maybe, maybe not. But it's what they believe.

When President Obama said, "I complained plenty about Fox News – but you never heard me threaten to shut them down, or call them enemies of the people," conservatives who watch that "wrong TV network" and listen to the "wrong radio" burst into laughter. They know the many times the Obama White House tried to get Fox News marginalized as a media source. They recall the Obama administration spying on Associate Press reporters, labeling Fox News's James Rosen a "criminal co-conspirator" over his coverage of North Korea policy and investigating his family. Obama opened more "Espionage Act" investigations into the working press than all previous administrations combined.

Even the Washington Post conceded, "Shocked by Trump aggression against reporters and sources? The blueprint was drawn by Obama."

When Obama wondered aloud, "What has happened to the Republican Party" and complained that the Trump administration is "undermining our alliances, cozying up to Russia," some Trump supporters tweeted each other "Did the 1980s get their foreign policy back?" That was a reference to Obama's mockery of Mitt Romney during their 2012 debate, when Romney called Russia America's greatest geo-political threat. Others posted pictures of the big red button Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov with "reset" written in Russia across the top. (As Lavrov noted, Hillary's button actually had the wrong Russian word.)

And when President Obama tried to take credit for the current economic boom— "When you hear how great the economy's doing right now, let's just remember when this recovery started"— you could practically hear the heads exploding across Trump Country. Yes, it's true that the economy recovered after the Great Recession. What Trump supporters know but people who rarely consume conservative media content likely don't, is that the economic recovery under Barack Obama was the slowest since World War II.

Obama's recovery was so awful that in August of 2011— two years after the $1 trillion stimulus was passed—the economy added zero jobs.

What makes the Obama experience so maddening isn't his behavior, or his questionable claims—that's just politics. It's the self-righteousness of it all, the suggestion that the U.S. under Obama was divided, not between liberals and conservatives, but rather "people who agreed with Obama and his allies," and "bad people." "Bad" as in "confused," "bitter," "clinging to guns and religion," "deplorable."

The return of Barack Obama to the national stage will remind many people who chose a problematic presidential candidate like Donald Trump why they made that choice to begin with. Viewing Donald Trump in a political vacuum, it seems almost impossible to imagine how he was ever elected. But compare him to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, and you don't have to have a #MAGA hat on to see how appealing he becomes.

How did America get Trump? Eight years of sanctimony and elitism, along with hostility toward the basic cultural values of a significant part of the country -- and the promise that Hillary Clinton would bring even more of that.

How do you get Trump for four more years? See above.




https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary ... -of-trump/




What a trained seal for your uk sycophants :roll:

I notice you conveniently leave out the fact that Trump is more popular at this point in his presidency than either obama or bush. But that would be called context, obviously a foreign concept to you. As is all the corruption being exposed in obamas doj and fbi, which you also ignore. :roll:


More popular within his voting base, ie Republicans.

The only people getting arrested, charged and imprisoned are TRE45ON's own staff at an historically rapid rate, if he doesn't get out then he will end his days in an 8x8.

Your IP resolves to the Russian Federation, what's that about Mr bot?




:roll: uh, wrong....
per WaPo

In another way, though, he’s actually got a point.

On specific issues, Trump is viewed more favorably than Obama was at this point in his presidency. Compare Fox News polling on the economy from July 2010 to July 2018. Trump is 15 points higher.



In CNN polling, the gap was smaller, but Trump still had a seven-point edge.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... sed-to-be/
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Stooo » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:20 pm



WaPo is fake news remember? TRE45ON said so. Stop repeating fake news from the failing WaPo and owned by the communist Bezos.

FFS, I shouldn't have to write this stuff for you, get with the message! :brickwall:
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby ATXn;D » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:55 pm

Stooo wrote:


WaPo is fake news remember? TRE45ON said so. Stop repeating fake news from the failing WaPo and owned by the communist Bezos.

FFS, I shouldn't have to write this stuff for you, get with the message! :brickwall:



Lol, yeah right stoo lololol...wapos really a right wing rag :pmsl:
You censoring THEM now too :pmsl:
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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby ATXn;D » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:28 am

Google’s statement about leaked video showing company execs reacting to Trump’s election sparks MAJOR skepticism

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/09/ ... kepticism/

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Re: Goldenhair - Donald Trump's 007

Postby Guest » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:19 pm

Stooo wrote:


WaPo is fake news remember? TRE45ON said so. Stop repeating fake news from the failing WaPo and owned by the communist Bezos.

FFS, I shouldn't have to write this stuff for you, get with the message! :brickwall:




Bezos, the first person on his way to being a Capitalist Trillionaire is a Communist? :pmsl:
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