So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby jra » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:06 am

Fletch wrote:Woosh...yet again :roll:


I don't get your posts Fletch a lot of the time because tbh I think you're a bit of a twat. But at least I can spell whoosh.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby Ray of Sunshine » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:07 am

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This cost me £90.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/GE-HZ1500-Brid ... B0099NM0VQ

It takes very good photos in good lighting conditions. At night not so good.

The problem with an iPhone is it hasn't got a camera grip, which is very handy for keeping things still.

Again, it not so much about the sensor, it's about the lens.

Also, I don't need photo processing software, even though it came with the camera. The thing is to take the right photo in the first place, i.e. sometimes take multiple shots and delete the ones which don't come out quite right.


That has a maximum aperture of f/3, iPhones and most top-end and even some budget Android phones have an aperture of f/1.8 which means they will take better pictures in darker conditions than this will.

Plus they have software that improves the photos which this doesn't have and it also it doesn't have HD video recording, plus you have the phone with you all the time, and it actually fits in your pocket.

The only thing this is better than a iPhone for is zooming in on something far away.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby jra » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:13 am

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Fletch wrote:Woosh...yet again :roll:


I phones do things adequately but not very well. you can get specialised Android phones that do things to a certain level, eg photos. Most phones are used for pretty much the same sort of thing which is why i phones and Samsung lead the market.

I tend to buy developer phones with a load of customisation and the ability to load whatever OS I choose to use but that's just my preference.


See what I mean. Fletch is just being an arsehole.

Nobody is going to tell me that a Nikon or Canon DSLR for example can't take better photos than any iPhone. iPhones are just for posers and/or used as status symbols.

Look at me, I've got an iPhone. Yeah whatever.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby jra » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:22 am

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This cost me £90.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/GE-HZ1500-Brid ... B0099NM0VQ

It takes very good photos in good lighting conditions. At night not so good.

The problem with an iPhone is it hasn't got a camera grip, which is very handy for keeping things still.

Again, it not so much about the sensor, it's about the lens.

Also, I don't need photo processing software, even though it came with the camera. The thing is to take the right photo in the first place, i.e. sometimes take multiple shots and delete the ones which don't come out quite right.


That has a maximum aperture of f/3, iPhones and most top-end and even some budget Android phones have an aperture of f/1.8 which means they will take better pictures in darker conditions than this will.

Plus they have software that improves the photos which this doesn't have and it also it doesn't have HD video recording, plus you have the phone with you all the time, and it actually fits in your pocket.

The only thing this is better than a iPhone for is zooming in on something far away.


It did come with the software, but it cost me £90 not £900-1000.

I don't normally need to take photos in the dark other than in a small venue or somewhere well lit, nor do I need to do video recording.

And the only thing I usually need to do with a smartphone is make phone calls and send text. So that can be done for £50 purchase.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby Ray of Sunshine » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:25 am

jra wrote:Nobody is going to tell me that a Nikon or Canon DSLR for example can't take better photos than any iPhone. iPhones are just for posers and/or used as status symbols.



They can (but obviously you don't tend to carry them around with you everyday).

A £100 General Electric bridge camera on the other hand, cannot.

The point of a snartphone is it can do lots of things and it's always in your pocket.

What are you advocating, carrying a rucksack around with you with a DSLR, tablet, phone in it?

It's not practical.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby jra » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:44 am

Ray of Sunshine wrote:
jra wrote:Nobody is going to tell me that a Nikon or Canon DSLR for example can't take better photos than any iPhone. iPhones are just for posers and/or used as status symbols.



They can (but obviously you don't tend to carry them around with you everyday).

A £100 General Electric bridge camera on the other hand, cannot.

The point of a snartphone is it can do lots of things and it's always in your pocket.

What are you advocating, carrying a rucksack around with you with a DSLR, tablet, phone in it?

It's not practical.


You can fit all that into a reasonably small rucksack, but I don't feel the need to carry these items around a lot of the time, including a mobile phone.

I don't carry a mobile phone around everyday all the time, let alone any of the 'other' devices, simply because I'm not a slave to technology. I'm not at other people's beck and call. If somebody wants to phone me and I don't answer it, it's either because I haven't got my mobile on me or I'm vetting. They'll phone back later if it's that important. I don't even have voicemail activated or internet via the mobile phone, because I'm not paying for it, because I hardly use the mobile anyway for surfing or making phone calls.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby Ray of Sunshine » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:46 pm

So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby jra » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:22 pm

Ray of Sunshine wrote:So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?


Well I guess so, but I wouldn't carry most of the gear I've listed above around with me as a matter of course anyway, so it's not really an issue for me.

I just take what I need for the occasion, whatever it is, i.e. try and travel light.

But, if I want the right equipment for the job for the right occasion, a mobile phone is always going to be a compromise as technology stands right now, and sometimes I don't want to make too many compromises when it comes to photography for example, i.e. get decent equipment to do the job.

Mobile phones essentially are a jack of all trades, but master of none.

No professional photographer or press at any event would be seen dead taking pictures with a mobile phone. They use high quality stuff to get the job done, with Nikon or Canon kit for example with high quality lenses.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby Stooo » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:27 pm

jra wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?


Well I guess so, but I wouldn't carry most of the gear I've listed above around with me as a matter of course anyway, so it's not really an issue for me.

I just take what I need for the occasion, whatever it is, i.e. try and travel light.

But, if I want the right equipment for the job for the right occasion, a mobile phone is always going to be a compromise as technology stands right now, and sometimes I don't want to make too many compromises when it comes to photography for example, i.e. get decent equipment to do the job.

Mobile phones essentially are a jack of all trades, but master of none.


Apart from their primary function of course.

I'm thinking of getting a new phone next year, the battery on my one+one is slowly dying. The company has abandoned the audio jack and adopted the notch so I'm going to have to look elsewhere.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby jra » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:35 pm

Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?


Well I guess so, but I wouldn't carry most of the gear I've listed above around with me as a matter of course anyway, so it's not really an issue for me.

I just take what I need for the occasion, whatever it is, i.e. try and travel light.

But, if I want the right equipment for the job for the right occasion, a mobile phone is always going to be a compromise as technology stands right now, and sometimes I don't want to make too many compromises when it comes to photography for example, i.e. get decent equipment to do the job.

Mobile phones essentially are a jack of all trades, but master of none.


Apart from their primary function of course.

I'm thinking of getting a new phone next year, the battery on my one+one is slowly dying. The company has abandoned the audio jack and adopted the notch so I'm going to have to look elsewhere.


So, usually I take a basic smartphone (£40) to do the phone calls and a bridge camera (£90) to do the photos. Much cheaper than buying a posh iPhone which in itself is very stealable.

If you're looking for a new smartphone, try Elephone.

https://www.elephone.hk/smartphones
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby Stooo » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:43 pm

jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?


Well I guess so, but I wouldn't carry most of the gear I've listed above around with me as a matter of course anyway, so it's not really an issue for me.

I just take what I need for the occasion, whatever it is, i.e. try and travel light.

But, if I want the right equipment for the job for the right occasion, a mobile phone is always going to be a compromise as technology stands right now, and sometimes I don't want to make too many compromises when it comes to photography for example, i.e. get decent equipment to do the job.

Mobile phones essentially are a jack of all trades, but master of none.


Apart from their primary function of course.

I'm thinking of getting a new phone next year, the battery on my one+one is slowly dying. The company has abandoned the audio jack and adopted the notch so I'm going to have to look elsewhere.


So, usually I take a basic smartphone (£40) to do the phone calls and a bridge camera (£90) to do the photos. Much cheaper than buying a posh iPhone which in itself is very stealable.

If you're looking for a new smartphone, try Elephone.

https://www.elephone.hk/smartphones


*notch screen* Nope. I'm happy with a 5.5 inch screen and I don't mind a top bezel for the camera and notifications. I really want something that I can root and unlock the bootloader. I use headphones from the phone at home and the bluetooth is iffy in my van so being able to aux it with a 3.5mm connection is pretty key.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby jra » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:19 pm

Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?


Well I guess so, but I wouldn't carry most of the gear I've listed above around with me as a matter of course anyway, so it's not really an issue for me.

I just take what I need for the occasion, whatever it is, i.e. try and travel light.

But, if I want the right equipment for the job for the right occasion, a mobile phone is always going to be a compromise as technology stands right now, and sometimes I don't want to make too many compromises when it comes to photography for example, i.e. get decent equipment to do the job.

Mobile phones essentially are a jack of all trades, but master of none.


Apart from their primary function of course.

I'm thinking of getting a new phone next year, the battery on my one+one is slowly dying. The company has abandoned the audio jack and adopted the notch so I'm going to have to look elsewhere.


So, usually I take a basic smartphone (£40) to do the phone calls and a bridge camera (£90) to do the photos. Much cheaper than buying a posh iPhone which in itself is very stealable.

If you're looking for a new smartphone, try Elephone.

https://www.elephone.hk/smartphones


*notch screen* Nope. I'm happy with a 5.5 inch screen and I don't mind a top bezel for the camera and notifications. I really want something that I can root and unlock the bootloader. I use headphones from the phone at home and the bluetooth is iffy in my van so being able to aux it with a 3.5mm connection is pretty key.


Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby Stooo » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:24 pm

jra wrote:Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.


Ever sat in a dead motorway queue with the handbrake on and engine off?
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby jra » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:35 pm

Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.


Ever sat in a dead motorway queue with the handbrake on and engine off?


Yes. In the 90's on the M25.

I was working in Hemel at the time and had to deliver some disk drives (*) to a place in Hook, Hampshire. On the way out I was overtaken by a Mercedes on the M3 and it's wheels flicked up a stone chip onto my car. I heard the impact and thought nothing of it. On the way back the traffic was so heavy on the M25 I had time to get out of the car in the outside lane of the motorway and investigate possible damage. The stone chip had hit the windscreen, but right by the very edge on the drivers side. I had time to do this inspection before the traffic had even moved. Once I got off the M1 for Hemel there was a crack on my windscreen half way across by the time I got home.

We are spoilt these days technology wise. You should know, you're my age. If you got stuck in a traffic jam, you've literally just sat it out or read a book or newspaper or something. If you need a car for your job, fair enough, but I don't. The traffic was bad enough 25 years ago. Now it's just a complete nightmare, which is why I choose not to have a car right now.

(*) The huge ones that they used to use in mainframes at the time. Rooms full of boxes type machines that needed air conditioning.

Here we go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer

I was working for the MOD at the time.
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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Postby Stooo » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:47 pm

jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.


Ever sat in a dead motorway queue with the handbrake on and engine off?


Yes. In the 90's on the M25.

I was working in Hemel at the time and had to deliver some disk drives (*) to a place in Hook, Hampshire. On the way out I was overtaken by a Mercedes on the M3 and it's wheels flicked up a stone chip onto my car. I heard the impact and thought nothing of it. On the way back the traffic was so heavy on the M25 I had time to get out of the car in the outside lane of the motorway and investigate possible damage. The stone chip had hit the windscreen, but right by the very edge on the drivers side. I had time to do this inspection before the traffic had even moved. Once I got off the M1 for Hemel there was a crack on my windscreen half way across by the time I got home.

We are spoilt these days technology wise. You should know, you're my age. If you got stuck in a traffic jam, you've literally just sat it out or read a book or newspaper or something. If you need a car for your job, fair enough, but I don't. The traffic was bad enough 25 years ago. Now it's just a complete nightmare, which is why I choose not to have a car right now.

(*) The huge ones that they used to use in mainframes at the time. Rooms full of boxes type machines that needed air conditioning.

Here we go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer

I was working for the MOD at the time.


I can read a book or a newspaper online from my phone without the need for peripheral devices. I'm as happy to read digital versions of the same media, and it's better for the environment.
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