Sometimes it's hard to be a Man

[Lady Murasaki]

And it says a lot about the scummy admin approving these posts.

Whose shift is it?

A troll.

[xtras1]

And it says a lot about the scummy admin approving these posts.

Whose shift is it?

A troll.

So scummy admin is a troll?

That what you mean?

[Lady Murasaki]

Are you being deliberately thick?

[xtras1]

Are you being deliberately thick?

No it was a genuine question..

[jra]

And you should want to contribute to your child's upbringing as well surely, be you man or woman.

If you have a relationship and that relationship breaks down and theother partner goes on to marry whoever else it shouldn't matter because you should still want to contribute and help with your child's upbringing both emotionally and materially

Not necessarily materially, if the children can be adequately supported by the new partner.

I've said it at least a few times. If one doesn't agree, we'll agree to disagree.

[jra]

Women in the UK get preferential treatment in so many areas these days.

They usually have to wait far less longer to get re-housed, if made homeless, especially if they are single mothers.
Most homeless people are men.
Most suicides are by men.
They usually get shorter jail sentences for the same crime.
They usually have better sex lives, as they don't need to jump through hoops to get a man. Mostly, all they've got to do is ask and it will cost them nothing.
Many still expect men to pay for everything on first dates.
Come divorce they'll usually get custody of the the children, irrespective of who is at fault and get to live in the marital home, whereas the man will have to find somewhere else to live, usually rented.
They'll still expect the ex to pay maintenance for the children even if they are living with a millionaire.
You can get women only swimming classes, but god forbid if men tried to have the same.
Women usually live longer than men, but until recently could retire five years earlier. So ten years extra state pension on average.

But if you say that as a man, you'll just get abused of being a woman hater, when the actual reality is it is about aspects of the legal system, not women as people.

Cue onslaught.

You ARE kelly888.

What a twisted and bitter outlook. No wonder no woman wants you unless she's a desperate drug addled prossie.

You sound like a real charmer.

BIB. You obviously didn't read that. I like women in general.

And I'm not kelly, as many times as you want to make it so.

Get this through your thick skull. Just because some people on DS may share similar views doesn't automatically make them the same person.

Now shut up. Unless you can prove I'm kelly and you won't be able to (you made the accusation) simply go away.

The two things that bug me the most in your list of woes are one that women don’t have to jump through hoops for sex and it costs them nothing Implying (as you have on several occassions) that all or maybe most women have a price. The second being your view that a father should not be financially responsible for their child if the mother mets a wealthy new partner.
I believe you mean these things and you cannot really see where you are wrong and imo that reflects some flaws in your make up.

Everybody has their price. I just happened to mention women at the time. Five years later we're still talking about it, which was a tongue in cheek allude to the film Indecent Proposal. In other words I'll pay you this amount for you to do this, whatever it is.

[jra]

On a more serious note, I do think men have it a lot harder these days. Just trying to ask a woman out can be quite a dangerous exercise. If she likes the bloke ok, no problem, if she doesn't, he runs the risk of being accused of sexual harassment and could be fired from his job, barred from a pub/club or even beaten up.
No wonder men are too scared these days to approach women...That's why websites like Tinder are doing a killing...sometimes literally

I truly would not want to be a bloke...no way jose!

Here we go.

I seem to remember a similar event for me. And look at the stick I got for that even from complete strangers on here and DS from people that don't even know me and weren't even there at the time. It taught me a lesson. Never approach a woman again, unless you are absolutely sure she likes you by making it obvious.

[jra]

Surely getting knocked back is nothing new for males. It’s gone on since time began, why is it considered more humiliating now?
People overthink nowadays instead of feeling their way through.

But that's just it...I bet it was always humiliating to blokes to get knocked back. The thing is, it's more brutal these days. How would YOU like to get knocked back? Say for example you see a guy you fancy, you try to start a conversation and he tells you to fuck off, how would you feel? ...cos after all, you were feeling your way through

Funny isn't it when you tell the story the man gets sympathy. When I told a very similar story, I get years of flack for it.

[Abs]

Unfortunately, men can't or won't admit to sexual abuse, so they never get the help they need, so they try to live out their fucked up life until they can't no more and kill themselves.

[LordRaven]

Unfortunately, men can't or won't admit to sexual abuse, so they never get the help they need, so they try to live out their fucked up life until they can't no more and kill themselves.

Right

[LordRaven]

Surely getting knocked back is nothing new for males. It’s gone on since time began, why is it considered more humiliating now?
People overthink nowadays instead of feeling their way through.

But that's just it...I bet it was always humiliating to blokes to get knocked back. The thing is, it's more brutal these days. How would YOU like to get knocked back? Say for example you see a guy you fancy, you try to start a conversation and he tells you to fuck off, how would you feel? ...cos after all, you were feeling your way through

Funny isn't it when you tell the story the man gets sympathy. When I told a very similar story, I get years of flack for it.

Don't take it personally jra, you put the target on your back so expect flak.

[Lady Murasaki]

Unfortunately, men can't or won't admit to sexual abuse, so they never get the help they need, so they try to live out their fucked up life until they can't no more and kill themselves.

It’s terrible isn’t it? But centuries of being seen as the strong, invincible sex takes its toll when a man can’t admit to this level of vulnerability without being seen as ‘not being man enough’. Whereas women can talk about it without that fear.

[art0hur0moh]

On a sexual note. Testosterone increases feel good hormones. After a month or two refraing from abusing oneself, you will start to notice slight changes in how Women react and relate. One thing I have noticed with my daughter is elaborate games. As Girls become older the games mature ( The latter is still theoretical. Though participation I consider fundamental?)

[Abs]

Unfortunately, men can't or won't admit to sexual abuse, so they never get the help they need, so they try to live out their fucked up life until they can't no more and kill themselves.

It’s terrible isn’t it? But centuries of being seen as the strong, invincible sex takes its toll when a man can’t admit to this level of vulnerability without being seen as ‘not being man enough’. Whereas women can talk about it without that fear.

It is terrible and saddens me to no end, because if not for their unwillingness to talk about it, my son might still be alive.

[jra]

Unfortunately, men can't or won't admit to sexual abuse, so they never get the help they need, so they try to live out their fucked up life until they can't no more and kill themselves.

It’s terrible isn’t it? But centuries of being seen as the strong, invincible sex takes its toll when a man can’t admit to this level of vulnerability without being seen as ‘not being man enough’. Whereas women can talk about it without that fear.

It is terrible and saddens me to no end, because if not for their unwillingness to talk about it, my son might still be alive.

It's a bit like men don't like going to the GP/doctor, but when I had blood in my urine (sorry if TMI) a few months ago, it was a wake up call. In the meantime I've been for umpteen tests and scans and found out a lot about myself, plus potential future problems and intend to get myself checked for this, that and everything on a regular basis now.

I've had very good service down this way with the GPs and specialists, but don't hesitate to change if you are unhappy.