Brexit Satire 2

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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby calitom » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:51 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Business men are not the right people to govern and organise a nation.
In one breath Tom you don't want the government interfering in money matters next breath you think business men should be running a country.
A country is a mass of people who need leading protecting educating not being seen and used as mere economic units.
Government needs to be made up of small businessmen self employed people scientists doctors social workers designers engineers planners judges a military man or two and so on. Let businessmen take care of business.
The odd corporation man and banker is okay too.

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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:53 pm

calitom wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Business men are not the right people to govern and organise a nation.
In one breath Tom you don't want the government interfering in money matters next breath you think business men should be running a country.
A country is a mass of people who need leading protecting educating not being seen and used as mere economic units.
Government needs to be made up of small businessmen self employed people scientists doctors social workers designers engineers planners judges a military man or two and so on. Let businessmen take care of business.
The odd corporation man and banker is okay too.

bullshit

What you're asking for Tom is Fascism.
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Stooo » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:36 pm

WTO/zero tariffs. Gove today to the NFU:

"It will not be the case that we will have zero rate tariffs on food products,"


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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Fletch » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:51 pm

Any idea yet which EU country will be getting the new Honda factory?
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Stooo » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:00 pm

Fletch wrote:Any idea yet which EU country will be getting the new Honda factory?


It's all going to Japan apparently. Zero tariffs with the EU means that they don't need 10-20% tariffs from a troublesome rogue economy. Maybe in the future.

Here's one that you and WuTang might like a read of:


Thoughts on Brexit from an Anarchist Perspective
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Fletch » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:10 pm

EU banks are in the clear over Brexit as they will be able to carry on using London for £60 trillion of crucial trading even if there is a No Deal

Major banks on the Continent will be able to carry on using London for £60 trillion of crucial trading activity even if there is a No Deal Brexit.

Large lenders inside the European Union have been given permission by Brussels to continue accessing so-called clearing houses in the City for a year after we leave.

These clearing houses allow banks to trade complicated derivatives which underpin vital lending to households and businesses.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/marke ... ondon.html

Funny how some things can be sorted straight away with no problems.
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Stooo » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:12 pm

Fletch wrote:EU banks are in the clear over Brexit as they will be able to carry on using London for £60 trillion of crucial trading even if there is a No Deal

Major banks on the Continent will be able to carry on using London for £60 trillion of crucial trading activity even if there is a No Deal Brexit.

Large lenders inside the European Union have been given permission by Brussels to continue accessing so-called clearing houses in the City for a year after we leave.

These clearing houses allow banks to trade complicated derivatives which underpin vital lending to households and businesses.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/marke ... ondon.html

Funny how some things can be sorted straight away with no problems.


A whole year? Fabulous, Swindon is on the trebles already...
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Fletch » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:17 pm

Stooo wrote:
Fletch wrote:Any idea yet which EU country will be getting the new Honda factory?


It's all going to Japan apparently. Zero tariffs with the EU means that they don't need 10-20% tariffs from a troublesome rogue economy. Maybe in the future.

Here's one that you and WuTang might like a read of:


Thoughts on Brexit from an Anarchist Perspective


So even if we remained in the EU they would have gone.

Car production worldwide is in the shit. Over production and falling demand worldwide, not just in diesels, are a real problem. Then there is:

Underwater Car Loans Are Bigger Than Ever

In light of declining sales, car dealers have become more loose about exactly to whom they will sell cars. We're not just talking about the sketchy "buy here, pay here" dealers, either. Mainstream dealers are playing loose and fast with car loans as well.

http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/1799 ... -than-ever

Americans Have $1.1 Trillion in Car Loan Debt, Report Says

That's roughly 70 percent of U.S. currency in circulation.

http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/1443 ... eport-says
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:23 pm

Car production is also being forced more and more in the direction of electric. In Aerica there should by now be a shift to natural gas engines too seeing as they have such a glut of the stuff they don't know what to do with it.
On top of that there is a massive global recession just starting so not many want to make massive investments in production at the moment.
The recession isn't of course being mentioned much in the MSM because the people might be able to prepare themselves a little better but I would not be surprised to see civil unrest on a massive scale across Europe this year.
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Fletch » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:23 pm

Stooo wrote:
Fletch wrote:EU banks are in the clear over Brexit as they will be able to carry on using London for £60 trillion of crucial trading even if there is a No Deal

Major banks on the Continent will be able to carry on using London for £60 trillion of crucial trading activity even if there is a No Deal Brexit.

Large lenders inside the European Union have been given permission by Brussels to continue accessing so-called clearing houses in the City for a year after we leave.

These clearing houses allow banks to trade complicated derivatives which underpin vital lending to households and businesses.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/marke ... ondon.html

Funny how some things can be sorted straight away with no problems.


A whole year? Fabulous, Swindon is on the trebles already...


Banking will always win favour...sadly.
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby wutang » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:23 pm

Stooo wrote:
Fletch wrote:Any idea yet which EU country will be getting the new Honda factory?


It's all going to Japan apparently. Zero tariffs with the EU means that they don't need 10-20% tariffs from a troublesome rogue economy. Maybe in the future.

Here's one that you and WuTang might like a read of:


Thoughts on Brexit from an Anarchist Perspective



Bit too long to go through it at the moment but I agree with this:

Firstly, I personally believe that we should refrain from campaigning either in opposition to, or in favour of, Brexit. Campaigning in favour of Brexit must be avoided as a result of the problems that I have discussed in this article. and the fact that doing so would further legitimise the far-right. Campaigning in opposition to Brexit is unadvisable as we should refrain from showing support for the European Union, or for the British Government, as both are oppressive state organisations that unjustly concentrate power to a minority, exploiting people in order to do so. It should also be considered that campaigning in opposition to Brexit may unintentionally undermine the political influence of the power; the British public directly voted in favour of the United Kingdom’s withdrawal from the European Union, and we must be careful not to set a precedent for governments to ignore or overrule the directly democratic decisions of the people
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby calitom » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:38 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
calitom wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Business men are not the right people to govern and organise a nation.
In one breath Tom you don't want the government interfering in money matters next breath you think business men should be running a country.
A country is a mass of people who need leading protecting educating not being seen and used as mere economic units.
Government needs to be made up of small businessmen self employed people scientists doctors social workers designers engineers planners judges a military man or two and so on. Let businessmen take care of business.
The odd corporation man and banker is okay too.

bullshit

What you're asking for Tom is Fascism.


whooooa Jack...I am calling for someone with a logical mind.Someone who has actually accomplished things in the real world.a problem solver.
Look at Eisenhower.He ran a fricking world war. When you categorize peoples empathy by what they do for a living you are making a huge mistake.
Just because someone is a businessman doesn't mean at all they they view people only as economic units. Ad just because people are Genrals or in the military in any way does it mean that they are war mongers.
So--to tie that in with eisenhower....Eisenhower presided over a peaceful time. And eisenhower warned strongly against the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. This coming from one of the top commanders in WW2.
peaceful AND the kind of guy who accomplished significant tasks. same can go for business people. Successful creating jobs and solving problems and negotiations...and as compassionate and fair minded as any other person.
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:50 am

Price hikes or bust farmers? Another miserable Brexit choice
by Nick Kent | 19.02.2019
Tomorrow a cabinet committee will tackle an especially thorny Brexit problem: deciding the duties to be levied on imports if we crash out of the EU without a deal.

Two pro-Brexit ministers are at loggerheads on how to proceed. Liam Fox, our not very successful trade secretary, apparently wants zero tariffs on as many imported goods as possible. But Michael Gove has promised farmers “specific and robust protections for farming” when the tariffs are announced.

Neither option is good. If we slash import duties farmers will go bust, but if we keep them at current rates food prices could rocket. It’s another miserable decision forced on us by Brexit.

If we crash out without a deal on March 29, the UK will have to trade with the EU on World Trade Organisation (WTO) terms. The UK will have to charge the same level of duty on imports from the EU as we charge those from other WTO countries. This “most favoured nation” rule also requires the UK to set and publish its list of duties (the tariff), which is what ministers plan to agree it at a meeting tomorrow.
It all sounds very technical, like so much to do with Brexit. But buried within the mysteries of trade lie some painful truths. Average EU tariffs on food are high: 40% on meat and dairy, 30% on chocolate and 11% on fish. Roughly 70% of the UK’s food and drink imports come from the EU. Adding tariffs at current rates to those imports could increase their collective cost by £6 billion.

The solution seems obvious – cut the import tariffs on food and drink to keep prices down in the UK. But that would encourage producers all over the world to flood the UK market with cheap food – at prices our farmers couldn’t match. Those imports might be cheap but they wouldn’t have been produced to equivalent standards, whether in terms of food safety or animal welfare.

It gets worse for farmers who export pr>>>>>>>>>>> https://infacts.org/price-hikes-or-bust ... gjN4S5S8Os
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:53 am

Government urged to reassure people that Brexit will not impact insulin supplies
Two leading diabetes charities have called for the government to clarify that insulin availability will be secure in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

Diabetes UK and JDRF have joined forces to request ministers detail how they will ensure that people with diabetes are not affected, and not left without vital medication.

The UK is currently set to leave the European Union at the end of March and there is still no trade deal in place.
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2019/fe ... 06139.html
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Re: Brexit Satire 2

Postby Stooo » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:43 pm

Fuck this shit!
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