Nora Quoirin

Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Cannydc » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:57 pm

Took Paludrin (Sp?) for my 6 months in Belize - I think it was the rum that caused hallucinations though.
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Bella » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:38 pm

Cannydc wrote:
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Cannydc wrote:She was taking anti-Malaria pills, those such as Mefloquine can cause reactions averse to those with pre-existing psychiatric issues.

If so, it is entirely possible that she woke in a strange room, became confused and simply wandered off.

Guidelines show it is to be taken 3 weeks before travel in case of any side effects and the dose is dependent upon weight. So she would have been weighed beforehand and it should have been picked up that she was underweight.

The family have not stated that there were any side effects prior to travel. Seems a dangerous drug and worth the risk.


https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/malaria/treatment/


Malaria pills are not required in the area were they are staying.

https://www.fitfortravel.nhs.uk/destina ... alaria-map


Many people take them when visiting anywhere in that part of the world as a cheap and simple precaution. It was certainly reported that she had been taking some kind of anti-Malaria medication so it should certainly be born in mind especially remembering the young girl who jumped from a plane recently after suffering hallucinations believed to be caused by her anti-Malaria pills.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/worldnews ... adagascar/


Do you have a link to support that she was taking malaria prophylactic's, I have been following this case closely elsewhere and have not seen a mention of any medication regarding Nora in MSM.
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby guest » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:49 pm

Can't find anything to state that starvation and stress causes a duodenal ulcer. Although stress will aggravate it.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/a_to_z/p ... cer-a-to-z

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20354223

https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-an ... mach-ulcer
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Cannydc » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:03 pm

Bella wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Bella wrote:
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Cannydc wrote:She was taking anti-Malaria pills, those such as Mefloquine can cause reactions averse to those with pre-existing psychiatric issues.

If so, it is entirely possible that she woke in a strange room, became confused and simply wandered off.

Guidelines show it is to be taken 3 weeks before travel in case of any side effects and the dose is dependent upon weight. So she would have been weighed beforehand and it should have been picked up that she was underweight.

The family have not stated that there were any side effects prior to travel. Seems a dangerous drug and worth the risk.


https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/malaria/treatment/


Malaria pills are not required in the area were they are staying.

https://www.fitfortravel.nhs.uk/destina ... alaria-map


Many people take them when visiting anywhere in that part of the world as a cheap and simple precaution. It was certainly reported that she had been taking some kind of anti-Malaria medication so it should certainly be born in mind especially remembering the young girl who jumped from a plane recently after suffering hallucinations believed to be caused by her anti-Malaria pills.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/worldnews ... adagascar/


Do you have a link to support that she was taking malaria prophylactic's, I have been following this case closely elsewhere and have not seen a mention of any medication regarding Nora in MSM.


Sorry, Bella, I don't.

It was definitely mentioned quite early in a couple of papers but I have looked myself and can't find it.

As for the duodenal ulcer mentioned, it's not something that happens overnight (though actual perforation can) so she may well have been in some discomfort that night.
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Stooo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:17 pm

Cambridge Analytica learned a lot from the Maddie stuff, Big Brother too.
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Guest » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:27 pm

Reports are saying the ulcer was caused by the starvation and stress when the science says it wasn't. Nothing adds up about this story.
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Stooo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:55 pm

Guest wrote:Reports are saying the ulcer was caused by the starvation and stress when the science says it wasn't. Nothing adds up about this story.


People or bots spreading doubt, it's something that we created with our comments.
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Bella » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:59 pm

guest wrote:Can't find anything to state that starvation and stress causes a duodenal ulcer. Although stress will aggravate it.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/a_to_z/p ... cer-a-to-z

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20354223

https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-an ... mach-ulcer


Are you implying the senior pathologist and forensics personnel and also the representatives from France and Ireland who were present at the Postmortem got it wrong? Obviously the Toxicology results are not yet available which might add more conclusion to the cause of death.
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Bella » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:00 pm

Stooo wrote:Cambridge Analytica learned a lot from the Maddie stuff, Big Brother too.


Not sure what you mean ?
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Bella » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:01 pm

Stooo wrote:
Guest wrote:Reports are saying the ulcer was caused by the starvation and stress when the science says it wasn't. Nothing adds up about this story.


People or bots spreading doubt, it's something that we created with our comments.


Yes, pure speculation and gossip
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Stooo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:05 pm

Bella wrote:
Stooo wrote:Cambridge Analytica learned a lot from the Maddie stuff, Big Brother too.


Not sure what you mean ?


How people think and who to target.

The shit that happened during not just the Maddie stuff and through to Gamergate has shaped the world that we now live in.

Data about users was collated and sold, why do you think that there are new laws about our data now?
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Bella » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:09 pm

Stooo wrote:
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Stooo wrote:Cambridge Analytica learned a lot from the Maddie stuff, Big Brother too.


Not sure what you mean ?


How people think and who to target.

The shit that happened during not just the Maddie stuff and through to Gamer gate has shaped the world that we now live in.

Data about users was collated and sold, why do you think that there are new laws about our data now?


Looking up Gamer gate, never heard of it before :ooer:
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Stooo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:17 pm

Bella wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Bella wrote:
Stooo wrote:Cambridge Analytica learned a lot from the Maddie stuff, Big Brother too.


Not sure what you mean ?


How people think and who to target.

The shit that happened during not just the Maddie stuff and through to Gamer gate has shaped the world that we now live in.

Data about users was collated and sold, why do you think that there are new laws about our data now?


Looking up Gamer gate, never heard of it before :ooer:


Arguably the start of digital manipulation. Banks and Co won a ref on targeted propaganda. Advertising works...
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Bella » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:26 pm

Stooo wrote:
Bella wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Bella wrote:
Stooo wrote:Cambridge Analytica learned a lot from the Maddie stuff, Big Brother too.


Not sure what you mean ?


How people think and who to target.

The shit that happened during not just the Maddie stuff and through to Gamer gate has shaped the world that we now live in.

Data about users was collated and sold, why do you think that there are new laws about our data now?


Looking up Gamer gate, never heard of it before :ooer:


Arguably the start of digital manipulation. Banks and Co won a ref on targeted propaganda. Advertising works...


A bit lost with all that. This case has reminded me how much xenophobia exists and crazy folks with conspiracy theories and those who make uneducated guesses.Not on this forum particularly but through reading twitter and other forums etc
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Re: Nora Quoirin

Postby Stooo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:31 pm

Bella wrote:A bit lost with all that. This case has reminded me how much xenophobia exists and crazy folks with conspiracy theories and those who make uneducated guesses.Not on this forum particularly but through reading twitter and other forums etc


FB links are a clue.
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