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Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.
LordRaven wrote:Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.
When we closed the office the other day we encountered "a person" wearing denim bib and braces halfway up to knees, a t shirt, earings, 5 day stubble, lipstick and eye make up.
Call me old fashioned, but if I called that person Mr would I be in the wrong?
LordRaven wrote:Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.
When we closed the office the other day we encountered "a person" wearing denim bib and braces halfway up to knees, a t shirt, earings, 5 day stubble, lipstick and eye make up.
Call me old fashioned, but if I called that person Mr would I be in the wrong?
Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.
Verdi wrote:Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.
He may not identify as a man, but that doesn't stop him being a man. It's a bit like if Frank Bruno decided he didn't identify as black anymore, he'd still be black.
Nucks wrote:Verdi wrote:Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.
He may not identify as a man, but that doesn't stop him being a man. It's a bit like if Frank Bruno decided he didn't identify as black anymore, he'd still be black.
But what's underneath that? Are there specific traits and behaviours and attitudes that Sam no longer identifies with? And what would those be? I'm not asking you directly of course, just trying to find out more.
Verdi wrote:Nucks wrote:Verdi wrote:Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.
He may not identify as a man, but that doesn't stop him being a man. It's a bit like if Frank Bruno decided he didn't identify as black anymore, he'd still be black.
But what's underneath that? Are there specific traits and behaviours and attitudes that Sam no longer identifies with? And what would those be? I'm not asking you directly of course, just trying to find out more.
What specific traits though belong just to men? Aside from the obvious physical differences.
You get masculine women, you get effeminate men. They are still men and women though.
All this non-binary stuff, all it does is reinforce gender stereotypes.
Guest wrote:LordRaven wrote:Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.
When we closed the office the other day we encountered "a person" wearing denim bib and braces halfway up to knees, a t shirt, earings, 5 day stubble, lipstick and eye make up.
Call me old fashioned, but if I called that person Mr would I be in the wrong?
It’s amazing just how many times you have an encounter with someone or something days before there is a thread about it posted here. What a coincidence!
Guest wrote:jra wrote:LordRaven wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:LordRaven wrote:I thought this was a thread about manhood.
A real man can follow animal tracks
Not sure what use that would be to you in London.
Not sure what use it would be in the wilds of Wales!
I used to follow animal tracks, in deserts, bush, jungle and mountain terrain, it made sense because animals tend to take the easiest routes and especially when traversing.
True, but there isn't much use for that in the UK.
There is, get out into the countryside. The great outdoors.
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