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Re: Middle East News

Postby Cactus Jack » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:14 pm

Cannydc wrote:There were 19 points of impact on the targets and the attacks had come from a west-north-west direction - not Houthi-controlled territory in Yemen, which lies to the south-west of the Saudi oil facilities.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49712417

Unfortunately with the Zionist State's history regarding false flag operations he's more likely to be right about this.

That the attack coincided so precisely with an Israeli election in which a close political ally of Donald Trump was presenting Iran as a clear and present danger at a time when Iran is exhausting wind and limb in its efforts to present itself to the EU as anything other than a regional aggressor strains credulity to its limits.
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Re: Middle East News

Postby LordRaven » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:14 pm

Cannydc wrote:There were 19 points of impact on the targets and the attacks had come from a west-north-west direction - not Houthi-controlled territory in Yemen, which lies to the south-west of the Saudi oil facilities.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49712417


Clearly geography is forgotten in Felch's propagandist blinkered mind's eye.
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Re: Middle East News

Postby Cannydc » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:22 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Cannydc wrote:There were 19 points of impact on the targets and the attacks had come from a west-north-west direction - not Houthi-controlled territory in Yemen, which lies to the south-west of the Saudi oil facilities.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49712417

Unfortunately with the Zionist State's history regarding false flag operations he's more likely to be right about this.

That the attack coincided so precisely with an Israeli election in which a close political ally of Donald Trump was presenting Iran as a clear and present danger at a time when Iran is exhausting wind and limb in its efforts to present itself to the EU as anything other than a regional aggressor strains credulity to its limits.


Entirely possible, indeed plausible, CJ.

But we are all guessing, aren't we - even him.
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Re: Middle East News

Postby Cactus Jack » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:27 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Cannydc wrote:There were 19 points of impact on the targets and the attacks had come from a west-north-west direction - not Houthi-controlled territory in Yemen, which lies to the south-west of the Saudi oil facilities.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49712417

Unfortunately with the Zionist State's history regarding false flag operations he's more likely to be right about this.

That the attack coincided so precisely with an Israeli election in which a close political ally of Donald Trump was presenting Iran as a clear and present danger at a time when Iran is exhausting wind and limb in its efforts to present itself to the EU as anything other than a regional aggressor strains credulity to its limits.


Entirely possible, indeed plausible, CJ.

But we are all guessing, aren't we - even him.

Indeed
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Re: Middle East News

Postby LordRaven » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:34 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Cannydc wrote:There were 19 points of impact on the targets and the attacks had come from a west-north-west direction - not Houthi-controlled territory in Yemen, which lies to the south-west of the Saudi oil facilities.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49712417

Unfortunately with the Zionist State's history regarding false flag operations he's more likely to be right about this.

That the attack coincided so precisely with an Israeli election in which a close political ally of Donald Trump was presenting Iran as a clear and present danger at a time when Iran is exhausting wind and limb in its efforts to present itself to the EU as anything other than a regional aggressor strains credulity to its limits.



The direction of strike doesn't fit, unless they have missiles that purposefully fly over targets and then do a 180 degree turn
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Re: Middle East News

Postby Fletch » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:53 pm

They have drones.

and

Fletch wrote:How come the US airbase smack in the middle of the trajectory didn't spot and stop any missiles from Iran?

The Saudi's / USA claim the attack was from Iran, through southern iraq and Kuwait. Kuwait is about 150KM wide and the USA has an air base smack dab in the middle of it.

The USA is supposed to be on high alert against just this kind of attack. How did the USA fail to detect a cruise missile attack that could just as easily have been targeting their base as Saudi oil installations? Are their air defences really that bad?


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“Air Defense Systems Fail All the Time”: Pompeo’s Visit To Saudi Arabia Turned Into Theater Of Absurd

On September 18th, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that it was just normal for the Patriot missile defense system to fail in repelling the recent drone attack on Saudi Arabia’s oil infrastructure.

“Look, anytime – we’ve seen air defense systems all around the world have mixed success. Some of the finest in the world don’t always pick things up. We want to work to make sure that infrastructure and resources are put in place such that attacks like this would be less successful than this one appears to have been. That’s certainly the case.”

He actually tried to paint the complete failure as something successful. He then, without being asked, moved on to defend the US move to leave the Iran Nuclear Deal, saying that if it didn’t Iran would’ve had missiles that could do that much earlier, and not 55 weeks from “now.”

Of course, any other scenario than Iran being to blame is also completely unacceptable, Pompeo simply follows the narrative, any other reality is disregarded. After all, you can’t believe what Yemen’s Houthis (Ansar Allah) say.

https://southfront.org/air-defense-syst ... of-absurd/

"We lied, we cheated, we stole" Mike Pompeo.
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Re: Middle East News

Postby Fletch » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:59 pm

Saudi Arabia does not have air defenses that protect its oil facilities from attacks from the south.

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Aᴍɪʀ @AmirIGM - 11:34 UTC · Sep 14, 2019
This graphic shows Saudi Air Defences around the Abqaiq oil facilities that were struck early Saturday. The drones were well within PAC-2 range, but outside Hawk range. It's possible that the low-flying or the drones' small size and composite materials helped it avoid detection.


PAC-2 are older U.S. made air defense systems which can not 'see' small drones or cruise missiles.

New drones and missiles displayed in July 2019 by Yemen’s Houthi-allied armed forces

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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/09/a ... yemen.html
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Re: Middle East News

Postby LordRaven » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:18 pm

Fletch wrote:Saudi Arabia does not have air defenses that protect its oil facilities from attacks from the south.

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Aᴍɪʀ @AmirIGM - 11:34 UTC · Sep 14, 2019
This graphic shows Saudi Air Defences around the Abqaiq oil facilities that were struck early Saturday. The drones were well within PAC-2 range, but outside Hawk range. It's possible that the low-flying or the drones' small size and composite materials helped it avoid detection.


PAC-2 are older U.S. made air defense systems which can not 'see' small drones or cruise missiles.

New drones and missiles displayed in July 2019 by Yemen’s Houthi-allied armed forces

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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/09/a ... yemen.html



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Re: Middle East News

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:25 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:Saudi Arabia does not have air defenses that protect its oil facilities from attacks from the south.

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Aᴍɪʀ @AmirIGM - 11:34 UTC · Sep 14, 2019
This graphic shows Saudi Air Defences around the Abqaiq oil facilities that were struck early Saturday. The drones were well within PAC-2 range, but outside Hawk range. It's possible that the low-flying or the drones' small size and composite materials helped it avoid detection.


PAC-2 are older U.S. made air defense systems which can not 'see' small drones or cruise missiles.

New drones and missiles displayed in July 2019 by Yemen’s Houthi-allied armed forces

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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/09/a ... yemen.html



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Re: Middle East News

Postby LordRaven » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:28 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:Saudi Arabia does not have air defenses that protect its oil facilities from attacks from the south.

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Aᴍɪʀ @AmirIGM - 11:34 UTC · Sep 14, 2019
This graphic shows Saudi Air Defences around the Abqaiq oil facilities that were struck early Saturday. The drones were well within PAC-2 range, but outside Hawk range. It's possible that the low-flying or the drones' small size and composite materials helped it avoid detection.


PAC-2 are older U.S. made air defense systems which can not 'see' small drones or cruise missiles.

New drones and missiles displayed in July 2019 by Yemen’s Houthi-allied armed forces

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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/09/a ... yemen.html



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Re: Middle East News

Postby Fletch » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:39 pm

Disputing Trump Claims, Japan Says No Evidence Iran Was Behind Saudi Attack

Japanese Defense Minister Taro Kono told reporters Wednesday that he has not seen any intelligence indicating Iran was behind the attacks on Saudi Arabian oil facilities over the weekend, contradicting Saudi and Trump administration claims about the incident.

“We are not aware of any information that points to Iran,” Kono said during a press briefing. “We believe the Houthis carried out the attack based on the statement claiming responsibility.”

The only evidence the Trump administration has released to substantiate its claim of Iranian responsibility are satellite photos that experts said are not clear enough to assign blame. Ret. Gen. Mark Hertling, a CNN intelligence analyst, said the images “really don’t show anything, other than pretty good accuracy on the strike of the oil tanks.”

https://www.globalresearch.ca/japan-say ... ck/5689677

Another one not following the preferred narrative. Must be a CTer... :roll:
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Re: Middle East News

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:44 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Fletch wrote:Saudi Arabia does not have air defenses that protect its oil facilities from attacks from the south.

Image

Aᴍɪʀ @AmirIGM - 11:34 UTC · Sep 14, 2019
This graphic shows Saudi Air Defences around the Abqaiq oil facilities that were struck early Saturday. The drones were well within PAC-2 range, but outside Hawk range. It's possible that the low-flying or the drones' small size and composite materials helped it avoid detection.


PAC-2 are older U.S. made air defense systems which can not 'see' small drones or cruise missiles.

New drones and missiles displayed in July 2019 by Yemen’s Houthi-allied armed forces

Image

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/09/a ... yemen.html



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Re: Middle East News

Postby Fletch » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:22 pm

Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors

After the attack in June, Trump was poised to launch a military response against the Iranians — strongly urged by Bolton — but pulled back after Fox News host Tucker Carlson and others warned him that it was a bad idea.

During Wednesday’s luncheon, Bolton said the planned response had gone through the full process and everybody in the White House had agreed on the retaliatory strike.

But “a high authority, at the very last minute," without telling anyone, decided not to do it, Bolton complained.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/ ... cy-1501932

The US government and it's objectives in all it's full glory. :shake head:
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Re: Middle East News

Postby Fletch » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:14 pm

In Videos: Houthis Showcase Devastating Defeat Of Saudi-led Forces In Northern Yemen

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https://southfront.org/in-videos-houthi ... ern-yemen/

Houthis Reveal Saudi-led Forces In Yemen Have Links To Al-Qaeda

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Spokesman for the Houthis Brigadier General Yahya Saree termed the operation as the biggest ever since Saudi Arabia and the UAE began their intervention in Yemen more than 4 years ago.

“More than 200 were killed in dozens of (missile and drone) strikes while trying to escape or surrender,” Saree said, adding that over 2,000 Saudi-backed mercenaries were also taken prisoner.

The spokesman for the Houthis further said that “three Saudi brigades were destroyed during Operation Nasr Min Allah in the Najran region in the south of Saudi Arabia.”

He stressed that “this operation is continuing for several months and during this time our enemies have suffered a lot of casualties.” Saree explained that “during the Nasr Min Allah operation, thousands of them, most of them traitors, were captured, including hundreds of Saudi commanders, soldiers and officers.”

https://southfront.org/houthis-reveal-s ... -al-qaeda/

Houthis Showcase Military Equipment Captured From Saudi-led Forces In Recent Offensive

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https://southfront.org/houthis-showcase ... offensive/

Yeah but, Iran...

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Re: Middle East News

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:31 pm

Twitter .....

Twitter executive for Middle East is British Army 'psyops' soldier
Head of editorial for MENA is part-time officer in the 77th Brigade, an 'information warfare' unit which has worked on 'behavioural change' projects in the region.

The senior Twitter executive with editorial responsibility for the Middle East is also a part-time officer in the British Army’s psychological warfare unit, Middle East Eye has established.

Gordon MacMillan, who joined the social media company's UK office six years ago, has for several years also served with the 77th Brigade, a unit formed in 2015 in order to develop “non-lethal” ways of waging war.

The 77th Brigade uses social media platforms such as Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, as well as podcasts, data analysis and audience research to wage what the head of the UK military, General Nick Carter, describes as “information warfare”.

Carter says the 77th Brigade is giving the British military “the capability to compete in the war of narratives at the tactical level”; to shape perceptions of conflict. Some soldiers who have served with the unit say they have been engaged in operations intended to change the behaviour of target audiences.

What exactly MacMillan is doing with the unit is difficult to determine, however: he has declined to answer any questions about his role, as has Twitter and the UK’s Ministry of Defence (MoD).

Twitter would say only that “we actively encourage all our employees to pursue external interests”, while the MoD said that the 77th Brigade had no relationship with Twitter, other than using it for communication.


- The British Army

The 77th Brigade's headquarters is located west of London. It brought together a number of existing military units such as the Media Operations Group and the 15 Psychological Operations Group.

At its launch, the UK media was told that the new unit of “Facebook warriors” would be around 1,500 strong, and made up of both regular soldiers and>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/twit ... rfare-unit
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