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Postby Cactus Jack » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:10 am

Prominent US public health adviser Dr Anthony Fauci appeared on Sunday to confirm a bombshell New York Times report which said he and other Trump administration officials recommended the implementation of social distancing to combat the coronavirus in February, but were rebuffed for almost a month.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... oronavirus


For those who intentionally missed it elsewhere.

The briefings were given by Dr Fauci to The President.

They weren't given to Nancy Pelosi.
They weren't given to Joe Biden.
They weren't given to MSNBC.
They weren't given to whatever code name Neo-Nazis are calling The Jews this week
They definitely WERE given to Donald Trump.

If, as Donald Trump claims, he hadn't disbanded the Bio Hazzard Response Team then when he received those briefing and did not enact the 'Playbook' he utterly failed in his primary duty to protect the American people and tens of thousands have died because of him.
If as the world actually knows for a confirmed fact Donald Trump did disband the Bio Hazzard Response Team then it was when he disbanded them that he utterly failed in his primary duty to protect the American people and tens of thousands have died because of him.

Either way for America this is now the Trump virus.
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby Cannydc » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:15 am

I was just going to ask you to post that here...

Thanks !!

Except the link has died...This works...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/vid ... vice-video
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby Cactus Jack » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:55 am

Thanks for the new link - video will stretch our resident denier of facts ability to ignore reality even more.
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby ATXn;D » Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:31 pm

Fauccis own words coming out of Fauccis own mouth as late as February telling us not to worry or wear masks. :roll:
And you dont know Pelosi wasnt briefed.
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby Cannydc » Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:38 pm

ATXn;D wrote:Fauccis own words coming out of Fauccis own mouth as late as February telling us not to worry or wear masks. :roll:
And you dont know Pelosi wasnt briefed.


The words coming out of his mouth, which you chose to ignore were;

"We warned you it was coming, not if, but when, and we warned you to prepare. You chose to ignore us".
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby ATXn;D » Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:50 pm

Cannydc wrote:
ATXn;D wrote:Fauccis own words coming out of Fauccis own mouth as late as February telling us not to worry or wear masks. :roll:
And you dont know Pelosi wasnt briefed.


The words coming out of his mouth, which you chose to ignore were;

"We warned you it was coming, not if, but when, and we warned you to prepare. You chose to ignore us".


Post it up with the date then because as of MARCH 9th he was saying it was still safe to go to the gym :roll:
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby Cannydc » Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:08 pm

ATXn;D wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
ATXn;D wrote:Fauccis own words coming out of Fauccis own mouth as late as February telling us not to worry or wear masks. :roll:
And you dont know Pelosi wasnt briefed.


The words coming out of his mouth, which you chose to ignore were;

"We warned you it was coming, not if, but when, and we warned you to prepare. You chose to ignore us".


Post it up with the date then because as of MARCH 9th he was saying it was still safe to go to the gym :roll:


US public health adviser Dr Anthony Fauci appeared on CNN's State of the Union program to confirm a bombshell New York Times report which said he and other Trump administration officials recommended the implementation of physical distancing to combat the coronavirus in February, but were rebuffed for almost a month.


Physical distancing doesn't include wearing a mask. It means staying 2 metres away from others not in your immediate household.
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby Cannydc » Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:16 pm

Asked by CNN’s Jake Tapper if lives would have been saved had social distancing been implemented earlier, Fauci said: “I mean, obviously, if we had, right from the very beginning, shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different.

But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.”


So big business and the economy took priority over the lives of thousands of ordinary Americans. To think that Republicans were 'outraged' at the loss of FOUR Americans in Benghazi...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 1586800562
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby Guest » Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:37 pm

ATXn;D wrote:Fauccis own words coming out of Fauccis own mouth as late as February telling us not to worry or wear masks. :roll:
And you dont know Pelosi wasnt briefed.

The clue is in the term "Memorandum to The President".

When last I checked Nancy Pelosi was not, and had never been, President of the United States.

So yes we do know for a fact that Nancy Pelosi wasn't given this briefing
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby ATXn;D » Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:50 pm

Guest wrote:
ATXn;D wrote:Fauccis own words coming out of Fauccis own mouth as late as February telling us not to worry or wear masks. :roll:
And you dont know Pelosi wasnt briefed.

The clue is in the term "Memorandum to The President".

When last I checked Nancy Pelosi was not, and had never been, President of the United States.

So yes we do know for a fact that Nancy Pelosi wasn't given this briefing




That doesnt mean she wasnt briefed. Shes third in line to the presidency :roll:
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby Cactus Jack » Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:52 pm

ATXn;D wrote:
Guest wrote:
ATXn;D wrote:Fauccis own words coming out of Fauccis own mouth as late as February telling us not to worry or wear masks. :roll:
And you dont know Pelosi wasnt briefed.

The clue is in the term "Memorandum to The President".

When last I checked Nancy Pelosi was not, and had never been, President of the United States.

So yes we do know for a fact that Nancy Pelosi wasn't given this briefing




That doesnt mean she wasnt briefed. Shes third in line to the presidency :roll:

It does mean she wasn't briefed - it means exactly that having said that exact thing in words.
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby ATXn;D » Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:53 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Asked by CNN’s Jake Tapper if lives would have been saved had social distancing been implemented earlier, Fauci said: “I mean, obviously, if we had, right from the very beginning, shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different.

But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.”


So big business and the economy took priority over the lives of thousands of ordinary Americans. To think that Republicans were 'outraged' at the loss of FOUR Americans in Benghazi...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 1586800562




Thats what Faucci said last sunday, but back as late as march 9th he was saying something entirely different.

Mar 9, 2020,08:02pm

COVID-19 Travel Update: Fauci Says Cruising Is OK If You Are Healthy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan ... 9f2dc22d4d
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby Cactus Jack » Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:58 pm

ATXn;D wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Asked by CNN’s Jake Tapper if lives would have been saved had social distancing been implemented earlier, Fauci said: “I mean, obviously, if we had, right from the very beginning, shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different.

But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.”


So big business and the economy took priority over the lives of thousands of ordinary Americans. To think that Republicans were 'outraged' at the loss of FOUR Americans in Benghazi...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 1586800562




Thats what Faucci said last sunday, but back as late as march 9th he was saying something entirely different.

Mar 9, 2020,08:02pm

COVID-19 Travel Update: Fauci Says Cruising Is OK If You Are Healthy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan ... 9f2dc22d4d

Again you cite the fact that he toes the Adminstration line he admits he was forced to toe.

He admits now that administration line, a talking point forced upon him by the Trump Press Secretary, was misleading and inaccurate. Remember how outraged you were about misleading talking points when Benghazi hearings were happening?

The Trump White House forced it's officials to lie to the public and that has cost thousands of American lives. - and to make you care even slightly about that some of them were rich White people.
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby Stooo » Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:00 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
ATXn;D wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Asked by CNN’s Jake Tapper if lives would have been saved had social distancing been implemented earlier, Fauci said: “I mean, obviously, if we had, right from the very beginning, shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different.

But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.”


So big business and the economy took priority over the lives of thousands of ordinary Americans. To think that Republicans were 'outraged' at the loss of FOUR Americans in Benghazi...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 1586800562




Thats what Faucci said last sunday, but back as late as march 9th he was saying something entirely different.

Mar 9, 2020,08:02pm

COVID-19 Travel Update: Fauci Says Cruising Is OK If You Are Healthy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan ... 9f2dc22d4d

Again you cite the fact that he toes the Adminstration line he admits he was forced to toe.

He admits now that administration line, a talking point forced upon him by the Trump Press Secretary, was misleading and inaccurate. Remember how outraged you were about misleading talking points when Benghazi hearings were happening?

The Trump White House forced it's officials to lie to the public and that has cost thousands of American lives. - and to make you care even slightly about that some of them were rich White people.


Four died at Benghazi, right?

How many so far from the virus?
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Re: Clinton Ca$H...

Postby Cactus Jack » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:50 pm

Stooo wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Cannydc wrote:So big business and the economy took priority over the lives of thousands of ordinary Americans. To think that Republicans were 'outraged' at the loss of FOUR Americans in Benghazi...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 1586800562




Thats what Faucci said last sunday, but back as late as march 9th he was saying something entirely different.

Again you cite the fact that he toes the Adminstration line he admits he was forced to toe.

He admits now that administration line, a talking point forced upon him by the Trump Press Secretary, was misleading and inaccurate. Remember how outraged you were about misleading talking points when Benghazi hearings were happening?

The Trump White House forced it's officials to lie to the public and that has cost thousands of American lives. - and to make you care even slightly about that some of them were rich White people.


Four died at Benghazi, right?

How many so far from the virus?

So far in the USA it's 31,633 - which apparently is less than 15 if you use Donald Trump Maths.

But what's most worrying isn't just the number of deaths it's what statisticians call the R 0, or for the USA I guess it's R Zero, value. That's the number of people each person with the disease is likely to infect.

Essentially all of Trumps policy was based on the old notion that Covid19 had an R Zero value of somewhere around 1.3, meaning each infected person could infect between 1 and 2 others each day and the disease would spread relatively slowly. That estimate has been revised upwards many, many times because unlike religious people and Trump voters when a scientist is presented with new evidence they consider it rationally and change their opinion as appropriate.

Now America has the highest transmission rate - the steepest curve if you like - of any country and rather than reinforceing the idea that social distancing is the only thing that's going to bring the R value down - to use the accepted language to 'flatten teh curve' Trump is openly toying with the idea of abandoning the strategy that's working - and that's diluting the message that the Administration needs to be sending.

The only thing Trump should be saying to American public right now is - this

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