Proper Heroes

[LordRaven]

My life is one of an ordinary person that will make no mark on human history, but some people were clearly born to leave their mark on history.
Here's one...

"Carton de Wiart served in the Boer War, World War One and World War Two. In the process he was shot in the face, losing his left eye, and was also shot through the skull, hip, leg, ankle and ear. In WW1 he was severely wounded on eight occasions and mentioned in despatches six times."
Participated: World War I, Battle of the Somme, ...
Born: 5 May 1880, Brussels
Died: 1963, County Cork
Order: Distinguished Service Order

Adrian Carton de Wiart: The unkillable soldier - BBC Newswww.bbc.com › news › magazine-30685433

What an incredible human being! Talk about a life well lived and yet he is not well known -- which is weird.

Heroes come in all forms, my thoughts on Marcus Rashford right now for the sterling work he is doing for the disadvantaged will leave an indelible mark on history.
Are there any today you can think of who will leave a mark on history? Or any from the past who did leave a mark and who we never hear of?

[Guest]

Fighting in wars does not make one a hero in my eyes.

[LordRaven]

Fighting in wars does not make one a hero in my eyes.

Okay, well thanks for letting us know you'd have laid down arms, grounded the RAF and sent the Royal Navy to ferry Nazi Troops over the channel just to appease Adolph and the Nazis.

I have to tell you I don't think many will agree with you on this.

[xtras1]

Fighting in wars does not make one a hero in my eyes.

for protecting ones country?

[LordRaven]

Fighting in wars does not make one a hero in my eyes.

for protecting ones country?

Indeed, or "quite"

[xtras1]

Fighting in wars does not make one a hero in my eyes.

for protecting ones country?

Indeed, or "quite"

people do make me laugh... so many so called 'heroes' now.. when the ones who fought for us the conditions they must have endured and the horrors they witnessed we will never know.

and then we have guest

[Guest]

Fighting in wars does not make one a hero in my eyes.

for protecting ones country?

Indeed, or "quite"

people do make me laugh... so many so called 'heroes' now.. when the ones who fought for us the conditions they must have endured and the horrors they witnessed we will never know.

and then we have guest

That guest is a moron.
NHS are heroes.
And that includes NHS cleaners.

[Rolluplostinspace]

My life is one of an ordinary person that will make no mark on human history, but some people were clearly born to leave their mark on history.
Here's one...

"Carton de Wiart served in the Boer War, World War One and World War Two. In the process he was shot in the face, losing his left eye, and was also shot through the skull, hip, leg, ankle and ear. In WW1 he was severely wounded on eight occasions and mentioned in despatches six times."
Participated: World War I, Battle of the Somme, ...
Born: 5 May 1880, Brussels
Died: 1963, County Cork
Order: Distinguished Service Order

Adrian Carton de Wiart: The unkillable soldier - BBC Newswww.bbc.com › news › magazine-30685433

What an incredible human being! Talk about a life well lived and yet he is not well known -- which is weird.

Heroes come in all forms, my thoughts on Marcus Rashford right now for the sterling work he is doing for the disadvantaged will leave an indelible mark on history.
Are there any today you can think of who will leave a mark on history? Or any from the past who did leave a mark and who we never hear of?

A life well lived!!!!!
Disabled for most of it and you think he had a life well lived!!!
I think the other guys who managed to get home in one piece stood a better chance of having a life well lived.
Hello how did you become so disabled?
Well people kept shooting at me and I ended up leaving bits of myself all over the place.
How do you feel about having been made dependant on others for the rest of your life needing carers and a life on benefits?
Oh I feel I had a life well lived.
Must have been common senses grandad.

[Rolluplostinspace]

I wonder what his friends went on to be?
Fathers family men grandfathers.
Bank managers shop keepers train drivers footballers .... you know had a life well lived

[xtras1]

My life is one of an ordinary person that will make no mark on human history, but some people were clearly born to leave their mark on history.
Here's one...

"Carton de Wiart served in the Boer War, World War One and World War Two. In the process he was shot in the face, losing his left eye, and was also shot through the skull, hip, leg, ankle and ear. In WW1 he was severely wounded on eight occasions and mentioned in despatches six times."
Participated: World War I, Battle of the Somme, ...
Born: 5 May 1880, Brussels
Died: 1963, County Cork
Order: Distinguished Service Order

Adrian Carton de Wiart: The unkillable soldier - BBC Newswww.bbc.com › news › magazine-30685433

What an incredible human being! Talk about a life well lived and yet he is not well known -- which is weird.

Heroes come in all forms, my thoughts on Marcus Rashford right now for the sterling work he is doing for the disadvantaged will leave an indelible mark on history.
Are there any today you can think of who will leave a mark on history? Or any from the past who did leave a mark and who we never hear of?

A life well lived!!!!!
Disabled for most of it and you think he had a life well lived!!!
I think the other guys who managed to get home in one piece stood a better chance of having a life well lived.
Hello how did you become so disabled?
Well people kept shooting at me and I ended up leaving bits of myself all over the place.
How do you feel about having been made dependant on others for the rest of your life needing carers and a life on benefits?
Oh I feel I had a life well lived.
Must have been common senses grandad.

you should read up on Carton de Wiart, his disabilities never stopped him living a full life far from needing carers why the man was still ready for duty in his 60's.
amazing story,

[Guest who can read links]

My life is one of an ordinary person that will make no mark on human history, but some people were clearly born to leave their mark on history.
Here's one...

"Carton de Wiart served in the Boer War, World War One and World War Two. In the process he was shot in the face, losing his left eye, and was also shot through the skull, hip, leg, ankle and ear. In WW1 he was severely wounded on eight occasions and mentioned in despatches six times."
Participated: World War I, Battle of the Somme, ...
Born: 5 May 1880, Brussels
Died: 1963, County Cork
Order: Distinguished Service Order

Adrian Carton de Wiart: The unkillable soldier - BBC Newswww.bbc.com › news › magazine-30685433

What an incredible human being! Talk about a life well lived and yet he is not well known -- which is weird.

Heroes come in all forms, my thoughts on Marcus Rashford right now for the sterling work he is doing for the disadvantaged will leave an indelible mark on history.
Are there any today you can think of who will leave a mark on history? Or any from the past who did leave a mark and who we never hear of?

A life well lived!!!!!
Disabled for most of it and you think he had a life well lived!!!
I think the other guys who managed to get home in one piece stood a better chance of having a life well lived.
Hello how did you become so disabled?
Well people kept shooting at me and I ended up leaving bits of myself all over the place.
How do you feel about having been made dependant on others for the rest of your life needing carers and a life on benefits?
Oh I feel I had a life well lived.
Must have been common senses grandad.

you should read up on Carton de Wiart, his disabilities never stopped him living a full life far from needing carers why the man was still ready for duty in his 60's.
amazing story,

An amazing life story, saying war suited him after being shot and wounded so much was a good read.
They don’t make men like that now.

[xtras1]

My life is one of an ordinary person that will make no mark on human history, but some people were clearly born to leave their mark on history.
Here's one...

"Carton de Wiart served in the Boer War, World War One and World War Two. In the process he was shot in the face, losing his left eye, and was also shot through the skull, hip, leg, ankle and ear. In WW1 he was severely wounded on eight occasions and mentioned in despatches six times."
Participated: World War I, Battle of the Somme, ...
Born: 5 May 1880, Brussels
Died: 1963, County Cork
Order: Distinguished Service Order

Adrian Carton de Wiart: The unkillable soldier - BBC Newswww.bbc.com › news › magazine-30685433

What an incredible human being! Talk about a life well lived and yet he is not well known -- which is weird.

Heroes come in all forms, my thoughts on Marcus Rashford right now for the sterling work he is doing for the disadvantaged will leave an indelible mark on history.
Are there any today you can think of who will leave a mark on history? Or any from the past who did leave a mark and who we never hear of?

A life well lived!!!!!
Disabled for most of it and you think he had a life well lived!!!
I think the other guys who managed to get home in one piece stood a better chance of having a life well lived.
Hello how did you become so disabled?
Well people kept shooting at me and I ended up leaving bits of myself all over the place.
How do you feel about having been made dependant on others for the rest of your life needing carers and a life on benefits?
Oh I feel I had a life well lived.
Must have been common senses grandad.

you should read up on Carton de Wiart, his disabilities never stopped him living a full life far from needing carers why the man was still ready for duty in his 60's.
amazing story,

An amazing life story, saying war suited him after being shot and wounded so much was a good read.
They don’t make men like that now.

yeah odd thing to say war suited him, i was just pointing out hi injuries never stopped him..

[Raggamuffin]

I wonder what his friends went on to be?
Fathers family men grandfathers.
Bank managers shop keepers train drivers footballers .... you know had a life well lived

Some people might say that being a bank manager doesn't equate to a "life well lived".

[LordRaven]

My life is one of an ordinary person that will make no mark on human history, but some people were clearly born to leave their mark on history.
Here's one...

"Carton de Wiart served in the Boer War, World War One and World War Two. In the process he was shot in the face, losing his left eye, and was also shot through the skull, hip, leg, ankle and ear. In WW1 he was severely wounded on eight occasions and mentioned in despatches six times."
Participated: World War I, Battle of the Somme, ...
Born: 5 May 1880, Brussels
Died: 1963, County Cork
Order: Distinguished Service Order

Adrian Carton de Wiart: The unkillable soldier - BBC Newswww.bbc.com › news › magazine-30685433

What an incredible human being! Talk about a life well lived and yet he is not well known -- which is weird.

Heroes come in all forms, my thoughts on Marcus Rashford right now for the sterling work he is doing for the disadvantaged will leave an indelible mark on history.
Are there any today you can think of who will leave a mark on history? Or any from the past who did leave a mark and who we never hear of?

A life well lived!!!!!
Disabled for most of it and you think he had a life well lived!!!
I think the other guys who managed to get home in one piece stood a better chance of having a life well lived.
Hello how did you become so disabled?
Well people kept shooting at me and I ended up leaving bits of myself all over the place.
How do you feel about having been made dependant on others for the rest of your life needing carers and a life on benefits?
Oh I feel I had a life well lived.
Must have been common senses grandad.

You are missing the point entirely, we are all where we are through being born at a time an place of no choosing of our own.
Our good fortune in being born much later than him is clearly far more preferable to the time he was born when the world was a far different place.
Using hindsight you have judged him --and that is silly.
Serving in Boer war, 1st world war and the second world war against the Nazis clearly demonstrates he lived in less preferable times.
The fact he fought the Nazis to help keep them at bay and this country safe is commendable --all whilst bearing the scars and wounds of previous battles and with one eye.
If that is not a hero I don't know what is?
So please explain in detail, without hindsight, how he doesn't qualify as a hero please.

[Lady Murasaki]

I get the impression males need heroes more than women do. Nothing wrong with that but the problem is building people up too much so that they appear superhuman and without flaws.